Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up

Subject: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 06:44 PM

Max, hope you'll let us know what comes of your letter. Could someone "blue clicky" this to the "Mudcat under Attack thread". Thanks.

Rick

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 07:22 PM

I done did it, Fielding. Good idea. here is a blue clicky to the old thread

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Max
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 07:35 PM

Yes, I will let you know. Nothing yet.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: MudGuard
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 06:44 AM

Just found that in the net. Reminds me of something going on here...
Department of Justice Organisation Chart ;-)
Btw, any new developments?
MudGuard

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 08:24 AM

Times like these it makes you wonder who has the copyright to the letter e (small case)E (upper case) we will have to pay for each letter and word.. Yours,Aye. Dave

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Peter T.
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 09:41 AM

Some of us can't read the original thread because it is too long. Can someone precis where things are now, for those of us with ancient machines?
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 11:01 AM

Seems like PCs become 'oldies' about as fast as rock songs, Peter.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Peter T.
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 12:16 PM

Yep, I've had this Mac Model IIfx since back in '93 (cough, cough), and apart from the crank falling out in warm weather, she can still go up a hill as long as everyone didn't have an extra piece of cherry pie at the social. Land sakes, wouldn't do to get rid of it now -- there must be a megabyte or two I could still squeeze out of it.....
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: MMario
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 12:23 PM

Peter - I don't think it's age of machine, I think it is line conditions speed of modem etc. I can read the large threads at work, but on THE SAME MACHINE at home I cannot.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Max
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 12:24 PM

Nothing new. I sent them a letter saying we took the songs out of the DB (which we did) and that we are interested in negotiating and/or purchasing anything that will keep us out of trouble. Have not heard anything since. Will certainly let you know.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Amos
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 12:25 PM

That IIfx is a truly excellent machine, Peter. A plateau of technology in its era. But if you want true delight and the thrill of the future under your wings, scrimp up for a DVD IMac, and watch your jaw drop. I've been told i is a truly wonderful machine.

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: canoer
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 12:30 PM

Hello! New to the Cat BUT read the original thread. Can't (well, of course I can, but ... ) believe this junk. Here's some Visa. As per Clausewitz: "Money is the nerve of the war."

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Peter T.
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 02:30 PM

Thanks, Max. Keep up the fight.

Amos, I keep trying all the new Macs, but really, who needs it? Except for the memory problem I have here on Mudcat, which I shouldn't have -- I have a big memory -- but there is something else to blame for this I can't figure -- the same thing happens with the networking computer at the university which uses Netscape 3. as well.
I can type much faster than I can think already, and the faster I type, the stupider the things I write. What I need is something to slow me down, not speed me up. Of course, I can't use the chat room, so if everyone migrated there, I would be in trouble -- but I am not sure that is a speed problem, just a Mac incompatibility problem.

yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Amos
Date: 07 Feb 00 - 08:41 PM

Well, okay. If you're wanting network speed, I'd suggest a cable modem if you can float it, and upgrading to Netscape 4.7, OS 8.6 or 9. (well, not on the IIfx). Then you babble through cyberspace faster than a swollen little brook. But that would mean you would end up writing less. So never mind, I'd rather you use the time to write. Dunno what the NW computer at the college is doing for connectivity -- is it on a thinnet LAN feeding directly to a T1? Or what? I don't think it could be NS 3 itself bottlenecking you. Dunno for sure though.

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: richardw
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 11:52 AM

peter; I sympathize. We have a mac 6500 and a G3. The G3 often won't hook up because the line speed is too slow for the modem. When either of us does hook up we often download at speeds of 250-400 bytes! The fault is the old rural copper lines which Telus will not upgrade, so when we are hooked up we just poke along and read a book while we download.

richard

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Peter T.
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 02:39 PM

It is a mystery. The University of Toronto has bandwidth coming out of its ears. yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Amos
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 04:27 PM

Physical bandwidth can be defeated by firewalls, by session / network software that can't handle it, by local modem links bottlenecking, and by application or OS problems. NS 3.0 is slower than it's later versions, so you could try upgrading it. But I suspect you want to upgrade your OS if you can on the 68XXX platform. Or you could spring for a second hnd PPC.

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Peter T.
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 04:55 PM

Thanks Amos, but I think I am about at my limit already. System 7.5 is about as good as I can do, and I am just under the available RAM with Netscape 3. When I have tried 4, it is just too big, even with my virtual memory on. MAybe I could try System 8, and edge up. When I find a few hours (in the year 2525, if man is still alive....)
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 05:08 PM

Hey Peter, I thought they were talking about Max in this thread, not Macs.....

-Joe Offer, spending another frustrating day installing Windows software-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Amos
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 05:12 PM

Y'mean this board isn't run by Macs?!!! Dang! I've been labouring under a fat nun! Oh...sorry...I meant a gross Miss Conception.

(See the Mudcat Songbook re Server Crash :>) )

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat Under Attack-Follow up
From: Peter T.
Date: 08 Feb 00 - 05:12 PM

I used to be snow white, but I drifted. Sorry, I apologise. yours, Peter T.