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Subject: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bobert Date: 10 Jan 13 - 08:23 PM Guess it had to happen but the ship anchor, i.e. Dodge Dart, does deserve ( I guess??? )it's own thread... It's claim to fame is that it ran... And ran... And ran... The body would rust out entirely before it would quite running... The 225 cu. in. slant six was indestructible... The transmissions kept tranmittin'... The radio's didn't quit... The wipers worked... Meanwhile, the rust was rustin' and the car was, ahhhhh, I hate to say it... ...butt ugly... So ugle it would make a freight train jump tracks and take a dirt road... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: pdq Date: 10 Jan 13 - 08:26 PM I demand a second opinion! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: wysiwyg Date: 10 Jan 13 - 08:45 PM 1964 model, with the pushbuttons.... My mom's ran so long and got so rusty that she covered the giant rust splotches with contact-paper flowers. Yellow and orange on a cream body. Very popular during the years I drove fellow high-schoolers around in it. Damn fine car. [sniff] ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: pdq Date: 10 Jan 13 - 08:45 PM Actually, I would take one of these over almost anything I see on the lot today: 1964 Dodge Dart |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bobert Date: 10 Jan 13 - 08:48 PM "Contact flower paper"??? Sheet fire... That is genius... Maybe Chrysler should have hired yer mom, WYSuz... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Rapparee Date: 10 Jan 13 - 08:48 PM You gotta problem with the Dart? Huh? My wife's second car was a '71 Dart. You knockin' my wife's choice in cars? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: wysiwyg Date: 10 Jan 13 - 08:51 PM Yup. Contact paper with garish yellow and orange floral print cut into giant flowers and slapped on. And they stuck!!! Even over the curvy body parts. Could not miss that car. Some of them flars wuz oh, 3-4 outspread hands across/tall..... ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bobert Date: 10 Jan 13 - 08:51 PM Nah, Rap... Well, come down to it, yeah... Complete shit box of a car, Rap, but yer wife is tops!!! Really... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: wysiwyg Date: 10 Jan 13 - 08:58 PM An' BOBert, that is my LATE mom, with the flars, who just passed in April.... so dontcha be knockin' her neither no-way! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: gnu Date: 10 Jan 13 - 09:02 PM 225 slant 6... what great piece a gear! Same with the Ford straight 6. Remember the days... rainy days... when you could set a lawn chair in there and close the hood on top a ya and work on em? Now ya can't get a credit card under the hood. High tech crap designed and programmed to fail.... to gouge the gullible and the rest of us who have no choice but to buy what they have to screw us with. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bobert Date: 10 Jan 13 - 09:04 PM I ain't knockin' mom, WYSuz... She's my kinda mom... I mean, contact paper is as mom as apple pie... I really do love it... No shit... I do... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: pdq Date: 10 Jan 13 - 09:11 PM Here ya go, more... 1964 Dart `porn` |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bobert Date: 10 Jan 13 - 09:13 PM Butt ugly, pdq... B;~( |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Ed T Date: 10 Jan 13 - 09:14 PM An odd history transition through its long history. Some of the early designs 60, 61, 62 were "kinda strange". At times it looked much like the Valiant. They ranged from sports "muscle cars" (I recall the sharp two door Swinger)through to family and Taxi cars. The cars that replaced the model werem bad (Aspen, I believe was one). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: pdq Date: 10 Jan 13 - 09:36 PM Here is a different style... in 1972 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: GUEST,mark-s(on the road) Date: 10 Jan 13 - 10:28 PM Lord have mercy more memories. The slant 6 was OK, but you cannot beat the 318 V-8 for life. My Missus still has her 70s vintage Dodge Adventurer pickup - with the 318, grannie gearing, and an 8' bed. Give that sucker a tune up, bleed the brakes, and we would take it off the farm and drive it anywhere. Just top off the oil every 1500 miles or so, and learn to put up with the rattles, squeaks,and groans. Dodge - the truck which WILL NOT DIE!! Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Janie Date: 10 Jan 13 - 11:03 PM Can't say I ever owned a Dart, but ran the wheels off of a 1963 Valiant station wagon (with those push buttons) and a 1973 slant 6 Duster. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: frogprince Date: 10 Jan 13 - 11:34 PM Okay, here's the definitive, objective, truth about Dodge Dart styling: 1960: Okay, it was one of the finned Chrysler products, but it wasn't really bad looking. 1961 and 1962: Hard to say which was a worse case of "Holy s**t, what were they thinking". 1963 on: vacilated between pretty slick little cars and just pfft bland. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: EBarnacle Date: 11 Jan 13 - 01:08 AM Saw one on the NY State Thruway on my way down from Albany on Tuesday. It was on a trailer and plainly headed for restoration. I didn't ask why. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: kendall Date: 11 Jan 13 - 05:37 AM When I was with the Fish & Wildlife service the motor pool gave me a Dodge Dart, or was it a Valiant, tougher than a woodpeckers beak but it allowed rain to puddle up on the floor so every time I hit the brakes I had to lift my feet to keep them dry. Then when I stepped on it at a light, the water would all go rolling into the trunk. That was long ago, I can't believe that one of the cars they gave me was a Studebaker! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Pete Jennings Date: 11 Jan 13 - 07:23 AM Chrysler forced Daimler to change the name of the Daimler Dart. Now that Daimler's really ugly IMHO... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Ed T Date: 11 Jan 13 - 07:51 AM When I was a single young lad, I had a 1969 Barricuda, 318, yellow with black stripes. The back seat folde3d down,into a bed. I say no more. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Ed T Date: 11 Jan 13 - 08:07 AM This looked exactly like my Barricuda, except it was not a 440. My girl (at the time) and I used to look up at at the stars through that big window in the back (no jokes about the year, folks). 69 Barricuda |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Jan 13 - 09:01 AM Sorry....Everything through '69 were sort of evolving and more "Baccaruda" than Barracuda.......remember that? Anyway, they finally got their act together in a monstrous way and the thing became a REAL ride in 1970. The goofy names left and were replaced with the far meaner sound of just 'Cuda. And the name that struck fear still lives on with reverence today........HEMI CUDA Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bobert Date: 11 Jan 13 - 09:11 AM Now that was a fine machine, Spawzer... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Pete Jennings Date: 11 Jan 13 - 09:37 AM Gorgeous! Were the Dzus fasteners fitted as standard? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Jan 13 - 09:58 AM Dzus Fasteners? Where? Are you referring to the hood pins? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Pete Jennings Date: 11 Jan 13 - 10:02 AM Yup. Dzus fastener. Are they the same as hood pins? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bobert Date: 11 Jan 13 - 10:09 AM Yes, as I recall they came with the car... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 11 Jan 13 - 10:30 AM Never owned a Dart, but I sorta circled around it. Had a early '60s full-size Dodge, a '66 Dodge van, and a mid-'70s Aspen (the Dart's successor). They all had slant-sixes and they all ran OK. I later had an '81 Dodge van, also with a slant-six, that lasted for almost 20 years. The engine still ran fine when it was retired, but other issues had started accumulating to the point where fixing all of 'em would have cost way more than the thing was worth. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: pdq Date: 11 Jan 13 - 10:50 AM With its huge back window, the 1966 Barracuda was a bit outrageous for the time, but looks pretty good now: 1966 Barracuda |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: pdq Date: 11 Jan 13 - 11:03 AM My personal favorite was the 1967 Barracuda. This style was made for only one year. If I could order a new car today, it would be a 1967 Barracuda with a 273 High Perf engine, a 4-speed trans and a convertable top: 1967 Barracuda convertable |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 11 Jan 13 - 12:55 PM The minute I seen the thread title I knew it hadda be that dumbass, Bobertz. Yup, he would drive a Dodge Dart. What a heap of junk! Them 'Cudas, on the other hand, they are not bad. I can easily see myself at the wheel of a '70 'Cuda. Yessir. - Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: pdq Date: 11 Jan 13 - 01:09 PM Dear Chongo, This thread was started by Bobert because I hadd the audacity to say I liked Dodge Darts in his one about Ford Falcons. I feel vindicated because this thread has more posts. Can anyone imagine getting a thrill from owning a Ford Falcon with a 144 CID 6 engine, a cheap tinny AM radio and a "three on the tree" transmission? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Jan 13 - 01:12 PM I certainly can't. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Joe_F Date: 11 Jan 13 - 06:38 PM My cars: 1964-5: The Baboon (it had a pink rear), an ailing, aging Oldsmobile I bought from my boss for $50 to learn to drive on. Eventually, I could barely get to work before it boiled over, and on starting up at a stoplight in enveloped the car behind in steam. I kept a bike in the back seat as a life raft. 1965-69 or so: The Fodge, a Dodge Dart. Unexceptionable. 1969-72: The Speeding Blintz, a Volvo. I turned it over to a commune I joined, and have been car-free since. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Janie Date: 11 Jan 13 - 06:47 PM My ex is still driving a 1983 Dodge Van that was a hand-me-down from my sister. Looks like hell, but still runs fine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Ed T Date: 11 Jan 13 - 06:50 PM the Duster (Duster Twister, Feather Duster Space Duster,Silver Duster,340 Duster and 360 Duster) the Demon,the Swinger,the Scamp, the Dart Lite. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Jan 13 - 07:05 PM Pete and Bobert.....A Dzus fastener can be used as a hood pin but a hood pin is not a Dzus fastener. The Cuda in that picture has hood pins. They are rods, generally chromed, that extend through the hood and mounted on the upper crossmember. They are secured by a form of Jesus Clip attached to a secured cable which you can see running down and under the hood. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Jan 13 - 07:24 PM AND....Here's an example of the Dzus used in the hood pin role....70 Mustang Mach 1 Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: kendall Date: 11 Jan 13 - 07:30 PM One of my brothers bought a new 340 Duster. I had to drive it, of course, and he told me if I could hold it on the floor for 30 seconds, he'd give it to me. I tried, but somewhere around 120 I chickened out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: ChanteyLass Date: 11 Jan 13 - 10:59 PM Thanks, Ed T., for mentioning the Duster. I hesitated to bring it up on this thread last night The first car I ever bought was a Plymouth Duster, twin of the Dodge Demon. I paid half down with money I had saved from jobs while in high school and college. I needed my own car for my first "real" job which meant I'd be living away (about an hour) from my parents and could no longer work out a way to share their cars. My dad cosigned the loan from the credit union for the employees where he worked. My Duster was purple, which I loved, but I didn't order that color: the car was already on the lot. However, the purple ones seemed to peel paint faster than any other color, with orange the runner-up. That taught me to buy only basic colors from then on. If I drove anywhere and saw a car with peeling paint approaching, I knew it had to be a Plymouth or Dodge and usually a Duster or Demon. We drivers would wave to each other! By the time I needed a new car, the paint was almost entirely gone. If consumers had any rights about things like this back then, I didn't know about them and at least the car ran well. A neighbor indicated he would be willing to buy the Duster, so I sold it to him rather than trading it in. He worked at Electric Boat in Groton, CT, and had the tools and know-how to strip what paint remained and repaint it. When I sold it to him, I remember thinking that I would feel terrible if it didn't last for another year. In fact, it lasted for many more than that. That slant-six engine . . . Oh, the day I drove my Duster off the lot was a hot one, probably in August. The car had no air-conditioning (it was years later when I bought a car equipped with that), so I had the windows open. A bee flew in and buzzed in my ear. I mean, I could actually feel its wings against my ear! I managed to pull the car over without crashing into anything. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Pete Jennings Date: 12 Jan 13 - 09:03 AM Interesting, Spaw, thanks for that. Pete. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: pdq Date: 12 Jan 13 - 01:14 PM As mentioned, the Plymouth Duster is a sister of the Dodge Demon. Here is a nice "mom'n'pop" version of a... Plymouth Duster |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bobert Date: 12 Jan 13 - 05:52 PM Kendall's post reminded me of back in '64... I had this buddy Bobby Short and his parents bought a new Sport Fury with a 426 hemi and a factory 4 speed... He showed up at the Aquasco Dragway in Maryland one day when I was racing the Cobra and, well, this kid was scared of his car and asked me to drive it for him... The car was fast but really not the greatest of drag cars the way it was built... No posi so it was hard to get it off the line without it fishtailing, having to get off it to hook, and crappy brakes but I at least got it over 100 in the quarter with junky tires... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: pdq Date: 12 Jan 13 - 06:52 PM Bobert... Your friend can't blame Chrysler because that car could have been ordered with a semi-floating DANA 60 and a PowrLoc. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bobert Date: 12 Jan 13 - 07:04 PM Oh, I don't blame Chrysler other than to hitch a 426 to a non-posi rear... I mean, why order the 426 and 4 speed??? No wonder Bobby was so scared of the car... I wasn't thrilled with it either... If that car had hooked up I'm sure it would have run somewhere around 110 mph in 12 seconds... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: pdq Date: 12 Jan 13 - 07:44 PM Most people think of the Dodge Dart and similar cars as a family. They were designated as "A" body cars by Chrysler and include only the following: 1960-1976 Plymouth Valiant 1963-1976 Dodge Dart 1964-1969 Plymouth Barracuda 1971-1976 Plymouth Scamp 1970-1976 Plymouth Duster 1961-1962 Dodge Lancer 1971-1972 Dodge Demon 1971-1981 Valiant Charger (Australia Only) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: GUEST,Russ Date: 12 Jan 13 - 09:24 PM A trip down memory lane. Fond memories indeed. Bought a 70 dart 4-door new. Incredible amount of room. I still remember the price $2788. Did all the maintenance and repairs. Reliable and easy to service. Not a fond memory: Replaced the water pump in an uheated garage in subzero weather. It was a race against time and hypothermia. Slowly rusted away. A 4-year stint in Buffalo NY didn't help matters. Stopped driving it in 80. It sat in the driveway for a while. Nobody wanted it for a trade-in and I didn't see any point in advertising it. Finally a guy comes buy and offers $100 for it. I hated to see it go. Russ (Permanent GUEST) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, the F'n Dodge Dart... From: Bobert Date: 12 Jan 13 - 09:36 PM $100 for a rusty Dart??? Yeah, that's about right for 1980... It'd bring $150 these days... $4 per hundred pounds... B~ |
