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Kenny B (inactive) 25 Jan 13 - 04:55 PM
Dave the Gnome 27 Jan 13 - 05:27 AM
Little Hawk 27 Jan 13 - 12:40 PM
Lizzie Cornish 1 27 Jan 13 - 05:59 PM
Don Firth 27 Jan 13 - 06:47 PM
Little Hawk 27 Jan 13 - 07:22 PM
Jack the Sailor 27 Jan 13 - 11:19 PM
Jack the Sailor 27 Jan 13 - 11:21 PM
GUEST,Musket sans cookie 28 Jan 13 - 03:26 AM
GUEST,Paddy McBollox 28 Jan 13 - 05:00 AM
Lizzie Cornish 1 28 Jan 13 - 05:41 AM
GUEST,Paddy McBollox 28 Jan 13 - 05:54 AM
GUEST,Musket sans cookie 28 Jan 13 - 06:05 AM
GUEST,achmelvich 28 Jan 13 - 06:25 AM
GUEST,I have forgotten the alias I used. 28 Jan 13 - 08:04 AM
Ed T 28 Jan 13 - 08:17 AM
GUEST,achmelvich 28 Jan 13 - 08:42 AM
Lizzie Cornish 1 28 Jan 13 - 08:43 AM
Lizzie Cornish 1 28 Jan 13 - 08:45 AM
GUEST,I have forgotten the alias I used. 28 Jan 13 - 08:48 AM
Ed T 28 Jan 13 - 09:04 AM
GUEST,owl glass 28 Jan 13 - 09:12 AM
GUEST,achmelvich 28 Jan 13 - 09:25 AM
Keith A of Hertford 28 Jan 13 - 09:30 AM
GUEST,I 28 Jan 13 - 09:49 AM
Ed T 28 Jan 13 - 09:49 AM
Lizzie Cornish 1 28 Jan 13 - 09:51 AM
Ed T 28 Jan 13 - 10:07 AM
GUEST,Paddy McBollox 28 Jan 13 - 10:10 AM
Ed T 28 Jan 13 - 10:28 AM
GUEST,achmelvich 28 Jan 13 - 10:36 AM
GUEST,I have forgotten the alias I used. 28 Jan 13 - 10:51 AM
Don Firth 28 Jan 13 - 02:14 PM
Ed T 28 Jan 13 - 02:18 PM
Lizzie Cornish 1 28 Jan 13 - 02:23 PM
Joe_F 28 Jan 13 - 05:30 PM
Little Hawk 28 Jan 13 - 05:43 PM
Dave the Gnome 28 Jan 13 - 05:44 PM
Ed T 28 Jan 13 - 06:11 PM
Little Hawk 28 Jan 13 - 06:21 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 28 Jan 13 - 06:30 PM
GUEST,I have forgotten the alias I used. 28 Jan 13 - 08:31 PM
Jeri 28 Jan 13 - 08:56 PM
Little Hawk 29 Jan 13 - 12:27 AM
GUEST,I have forgotten the alias I used. 29 Jan 13 - 03:28 AM
Keith A of Hertford 29 Jan 13 - 04:06 AM
Lizzie Cornish 1 29 Jan 13 - 04:56 AM
Doug Chadwick 29 Jan 13 - 05:11 AM
GUEST,achmelvich 29 Jan 13 - 05:30 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 25 Jan 13 - 04:55 PM

Its Burns Night 25 January

so remember "where ere ye be let yer wind gang free" And in BS term be careful not to touch cloth


"O wad some Power the gift tae gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An foolish notion:"


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jan 13 - 05:27 AM

Hi LH - pow-fagged = Tired out, exhausted. Mythered = bothered, pestered. So, if someone is mythering (I have seen the spelling meithering but prefer the 'y' btw) you to do things, usualy the Mrs in the case of us down-trodden Lancy Lads, you could well end up pow-fagged having done all the chores.

The cry can be heard in the pigeon lofts and whippet kennels all across Lancashire.

"Eeeee, stop mythering me woman. Ahm pow-fagged already!"

Slight variation in some areas where you are warned not to pow-fag someone. In that case it means the same as myther but of a different degree. In that case you could think of being mythered by a friendly sales assistant but being pow-fagged by a hard-sell time-share rep.

Hope this helps :-)

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Jan 13 - 12:40 PM

Excellent! I've suffered a good deal of mythering in my life, and I've definitely been pow-fagged as well from time to time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 27 Jan 13 - 05:59 PM

So, I'd best not start a thread entitled...

"£32FECKINGBILLION ON A RAILWAY?!!!"


....but instead entitle it

"New Railway - Discuss?"


....even though FeckingFackingFickityFuck! is LEAPING out of my head in a volatile vocabulary of words ALL beginning with 'F' !!

Sorry, but in many cases, discusssions NEED people to explode because we are in the middle of Sociopathic Madness around the world, and whilst so very many dear people in my country can barely afford to feed themselves, are losing their jobs, their homes,their families, their 'leaders' (SPIT!) are sprinkling the Life-Size-Hornby-Railways with £32FECKINGBILLION!!

Actually, I'm Beyond Feck!!
I'm Beyond Fuming!!
I'm MOST CERTAINLY Beyond Politeness!!


And..I KNOW that the BBC ended up having to close down all their messageboards because no-one posted any longer, after they became so controlling, so dictatorial, so downright stupid and so under-the-thumb of posters who ONLY want BeigeBland&Boring at ALL Times that their boards CEASED to exist...

Oh, and, of course, they also removed the most vibrant and bloody-minded posters that they had, who brought people IN to their boards in the first place..

£32FECKINGBILLION on a railway!

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Jan 13 - 06:47 PM

Lizzie, you're shouting so loudly and shrilly that it's difficult to make out what you're saying.

Apparently a common problem among some people around here

Don Firth

(Stand by for window-shattering shriek!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Jan 13 - 07:22 PM

Chongo has those totally mastered, Don, but he saves them up for only the most critical situations.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jan 13 - 11:19 PM

Some people find it useful to post complaints about the lack of civil discourse on the Mudcat on the Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jan 13 - 11:21 PM

Smart counts for independents.


W won because independents did not think that the GOP would nominate an idiot. They know better now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 03:26 AM

Love it. A thread to moan about those who moan.

We are not a community. We don't even live in the same country. The musical bond is subjective to say the least. Folk seems to include English blokes in sandals and fair Isles sweaters singing with a finger in their ear about the herring fleet they never experienced as a retired geography teacher all the way to burned out west coast hippies who hope that chanting Dylan songs makes their GOP go away.

So, back to the BS threads. Being outraged is fun and cathartic. Responding in kind is a nice freedom that is rarely found face to face. It seems to come from everyone striving for what they think is the same thing but clearly isn't. .

British folk enthusiasts can relate to Albert Ramsbottom poking his stick with it's horses head handle (the finest that Woolworths could sell) into the lions cage just to provoke a reaction. If BS threads upset you I suggest you ask Mummy or Daddy to set yourInternet filters accordingly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,Paddy McBollox
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 05:00 AM

You don't half think a lot of yourself, Liz. Think of it this way: maybe all the shrieking and ranting and brow-beating and endless fights is what drove a lot of those posters away. I expect a collective sigh of relief was breathed when one particular "vibrant and bloody minded" poster was banned for good and all. The same nonsense has driven away a lot of good, interesting, regular members of the Mudcat. As long as all this screeching and facebook timewasting keeps you off the street, I guess the Mudcat is at least doing it's share for Care in the Community.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 05:41 AM

Nope, 'paddy', for as you well know, when they banned Diane and I, the board became Beige Bland & Boring...and...of course..all those who used to get up each morning ONLY to Moan Moan Moan on the BBC boards had nothing to do any longer...for their sole purpose in life was to er..moan to Mel and Smooth Ops, like some hideous teacher's pet....

Don, trust me on this, you truly need to start shouting too, for you are being ruled by people who don't give a FUCK about *their* People, who are creating a situation where the only Booming Business in this country is Food Banks and Homelessness, whilst they're can instantly find the money to spend £32FECKINGBILLION on a Hornby Train Set that will get them from London to Manchester in an hour, at over 200 mph....!!!

*************************WHY?!!?!?!?!*****************

I mean, PLEASE, Don..EXPLAIN this to me, for you are so calm about it and want to deter others from becoming incensed about anything!

I'm done with Lower Case Times, for trust me on this one, we are now in such DEEP shit that UPPER CASE TIMES are closing in at The Speed of Bullshit HITTING THE FAN!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,Paddy McBollox
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 05:54 AM

It may have been beige bland and boring to you, but don't presume you speak for the majority of posters. Many people stopped posting because the constant atmosphere of confrontation and rowing drove them away, and by the time the BBC finally got rid of you the damage had been done. So well done - if anyone killed that messageboard, it was you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 06:05 AM

The idea of leaving Manchester at 200mph sounds a reasonable investment to me..

Actually, food banks are not the only booming UK industry. Travel agents that specialise in ski can't be doing too bad. I'm in Tignes at present enjoying a good holiday and the hotels are packed, the flight over was full and as to having today away from the slopes to look at apartments for sale, they seem to be commanding a much higher price than when we first started looking two years ago. Once emails are checked, I'm back on the piste. Most of Val Claret is British owned and bought by private individuals in the last couple of years. Might not bother buying. If this sounds provocative or crass, I apologise but fed up with those who think there are alternatives to growth and individual success if those less fortunate are to get a suck on the teat. A social programme needs paying for and whilst your average GROLIES might not realise it, the economic boost to infrastructure spending is good news not bad. Or at least it should be if your aim is helping others to get on. A hand up, not a hand out, as it were.

I don't agree with much this government has done, but public investment in rail, building up infrastructure etc is a better kick start the economy than their hitherto austerity measures. Sustainable growth is the only way to afford raising the safety net. Not that ignorance was a bar to ranting socialist twaddle about eat the rich and associated nonsense ....

Now, about Mudcat discussion forums ......


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 06:25 AM

i'm with you on this one lizzie - when there is so much to get angry about where can we express this? i see little point in arguing on here though - try to make any serious point about eg politics here and it won't be considered, any responses will quickly turn to abuse.
i will always try to deal with people courteously on here and there are some folk who have really good and interesting thing to say - like FUCKETYFUCKETYFUCK! for example - others are best ignored.
maybe we are all just feeling frustrated, powerless and guilty that we are wasting our time on this machine when we should be doing something positive about the state of our world.
incidentally, when and where is this party mentioned above - i would love to meet folk and put faces to names - or maybe not. i hope people would find it less easy to abuse me to my face than they do on here.

peace and love, pete


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,I have forgotten the alias I used.
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:04 AM

In a previous thread when I used the "f" word in a direct quote
from a published source who was it who came over all holier than thou backed up by a wheen syncophatic numpties ?
Why none other than L.C. whose motto appears to be "do as I say not as I do" if her/his use of this word in this and other threads is to be relied on.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:17 AM

""Chongo has those totally mastered""

Wasn't he remastered? :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:42 AM

i have seen many references to this 'chongo' character - i guess it's an in-joke on this site - who or what is s/he? and why?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:43 AM

>>>It may have been beige bland and boring to you, but don't presume you speak for the majority of posters. Many people stopped posting because the constant atmosphere of confrontation and rowing drove them away, and by the time the BBC finally got rid of you the damage had been done. So well done - if anyone killed that messageboard, it was you.>>>


Er..NO...

That board went on for a further year, limping along, but the majority of posters, probably one person under different aliases, such as McBollox, left the moment they knew I'd gone, because their game was over and they had no further way to continue their 'Witch Hunt' against me, to use the BBCs own words...

There were very few new topics started, very little discussion. Whether you like it or not, whoever you are, and I have an idea who you well may be, Diane and I brought that board ALIVE as it had never been before and the moment we were removed from it, the death knoll sounded....

Smooth Ops killed off their Golden Gooses,(yes, Pedantic Ones, I KNOW it should be GEESE in your world, but it's Gooses in mine!) leaving them with Delapitated Ducks who had NO idea of how to keep a board vibrant, interesting, volatile and FUN!

Diane and I were both fully aware we were bringing in loads of people to that board, and whilst they were reading some of the posts with their mouths falling open in shock, or their ribs aching from laughter, many were learning about Folk Music, some for the first time, going on to fall deeply in love with it.

Ain't my fault you're eaten up with jealousy and bitterness....

Blimey, Pete, I'll Pass On The Party if it's OK with you...
You're a brave man! ;0) xx


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:45 AM

Chongo?

Well, think of Johnny Depp, but with more body hair and an Ape-Like sense of humour and you'll be almost there... :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,I have forgotten the alias I used.
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:48 AM

I should perhaps ask L.C. for my lost alias, as he/she appears to be out of the same stable as MtheGM, who, on his own admission, keeps Gestapo type files on all those who disagree/contradict him on this forum.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:04 AM

Chongo is a hairy-dirty sock:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,owl glass
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:12 AM

Well, it didn't take too long did it? Personal abuse and mudslinging, insults and bigotry rampaging like a herd of angry rhinos. I think the OP has had their point well and truly proven!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:25 AM

chongo? OP? angry rhinos? curiouser and curiouser


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:30 AM

OP = opening post/poster.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,I
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:49 AM

Hypocrisy, eminating from whatever exalted source, should at all times be exposed to scrutiny and this thread is as good a channel as any to try and keep a few overgrown egos in check.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:49 AM

Chongo is a (Canadian?) chimp who somehow obtained the ability to type, give advice/comment and fling poo. Few here have actally seen him, though his "muddy tracks" and exploits are found throughout mudcat threads.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:51 AM

>>>In a previous thread when I used the "f" word in a direct quote
from a published source who was it who came over all holier than thou backed up by a wheen syncophatic numpties ?
Why none other than L.C. whose motto appears to be "do as I say not as I do" if her/his use of this word in this and other threads is to be relied on. <<<

Really?

Please feel free to quote it, giving the link to the thread too..


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 10:07 AM

A few mudcatters tried to track down the whereabouts of Chongo, as he does leave muddy tracks on this site. But, unfortunately, he employs socks and possibly changes them often to obscure identification.(when he changes socks, he wears old soiled mis-matched 60's folkie ones, to obscure DNA tracing).


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,Paddy McBollox
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 10:10 AM

Your version of events, Liz. I challenge you to find one other person who shares that view about what happened on the BBC messageboards. What do you imagine you had to teach anyone about folk music? You don't know anything about folk music. Just like the poor Native Americans, who are your latest crusade, you take a pinch of knowledge from your endless internet surfing, decide you are an expert, and then screech and preach at people who know far more than you do and tell them what to think. No wonder you piss so many people off in so many places. If there was a witch hunt, why is it that you're still constantly winding up new people here on Mudcat? Always new enemies, always new fights. And who is the common denominator? Oh that's right - poor put upon Saint Liz.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 10:28 AM

A funny quote I saw recently *(no disrespect to anyone, real or fictional, intended - it's just humour):

""The combination of prozac and other medications, guns, food additives, cell phone towers and elf people is mind controlling. It is all part of the global government-corporate agenda to make us all mind slaves and it is beginning to look scary. I don't have much information on this yet, but I'll see what I can dig up on the internet and get back to you all on it.""


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 10:36 AM

from what i remember of the bbc boards - most discussions towards the end seemed to attract the abuse and right wing hostility of 'unkle boko' - new posts became less frequent and some posters mentioned 'mudcat' a place where folk and anything else (politics) could be discussed/argued without such boring censorship as imposed by the bbc. i came here from there and appreciate the wide range of views and do my best not to get involved with slagging off individuals - though feel slagging political ideologies is totally fair game. don't mind if others insult each other though and i like a bit of thread drift. real conversations involve interesting diversions and a bit of piss-taking -
and no censorship.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,I have forgotten the alias I used.
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 10:51 AM

L.C.
Aha you have me there. I do not keep notes on the threads I comment on but I do remember the quote containing the "f" word that you raised an objection to and I remember you, to show a complete egostistical disregard, proceeded to use the "f" word in threads immediately following the one commented on, I, of course pointed out your hypocrisy at the time in at least one of these threads.
The quote can be found in McTaggart. You can do your own search for it---it begins "With pows say white and tails say green---


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 02:14 PM

Lizzie, believe me, I'm plenty involved in things and I'm truly outraged about a number of things, but I find it far more productive to endeavor to persuade and logically argue people into my way of thinking than to shriek, stomp, spit, and throw things.

Logic and a good command of the facts, presented in a calm and persuasive manner, if it does not actually convince the Powers That Be to see it my way, it will more often than not convince others who will then join me in putting pressure on the Powers That Be.

Screaming, name-calling, and generally acting like a mad person draws attention to yourself and can affect your argument for your "cause de jour" adversely.

That sort of behavior puts people off, no matter how just your cause is

Of course, it can also act as a great cathartic for you. But it is almost invariably counterproductive. It depends of what you are really trying to accomplish. To change something? Or to make yourself feel noble.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 02:18 PM

""To change something? Or to make yourself feel noble.""

A good one, Don Firth LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 02:23 PM

>>>L.C.
Aha you have me there.....<<<<

Yup, thought that *might* be the case.

Well, if you find it, please feel free to put it up on here, unless, of course, you're merely a lying, twisting, spinning little pain in the whatsit, of course...

"...The quote can be found in McTaggart. You can do your own search for it---it begins "With pows say white and tails say green--- "

Is 'McTaggart' a Far and Distant land where they speak the Ancient Language of Codswallop?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Joe_F
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 05:30 PM

This is not the first time I have been startled to see complaints about the bad manners of Mudcatters. Evidently they are not attracted by the subjects I look at, or (less likely) they are on their best behavior on such threads.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 05:43 PM

Yes, it all depends on which threads you open.

achmelvich - You've been given some misleading info about Chongo. He is NOT Canadian. He's an ex-African Chimpanzee, now and American citizen, came over to the USA on a banana boat in the late 20s or early 30s, landed at Ellis Island, got his immigration papers, was in New York City for a few years, then relocated to Chicago where he got a license as a private investigator, having been inspired by Humprhey Bogart gangster films. He has stayed in Chicago ever since, fighting crime. He has also been running for president on the APP (American Primate Party) ticket for the last few elections. Some of his personal friends include Clint Eastwood, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Madonna. His politics range from the Far Right to the Far Left and everything else in between. He helped put Al Capone in jail, and was a personal friend of Primo Carnera and Joe Louis. He once went 8 rounds with Muhammad Ali in an exhibition match to raise money for homeless children, apes, and monkeys.

And, yes, he's an in-joke on this forum.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 05:44 PM

Sigh...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 06:11 PM

achmelvich,

My error - I must surrender to a greater authority on the lineage and lifestyle of Chongo the Chimp. In fact, I am unsure if he prefers Banana-Land, or the Bird Food Emporium while dining with the poereful and famous.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 06:21 PM

It should also be noted that Chongo has come under repeated attack from his political enemies (the Democrats and Republicans), and has been subjected to shockingly false allegations and attacks on his character, most of those emanating from Rapparee, Bobert, Amos, and Frogprince, plus an occasional obscene remark from Catspaw49. Do not believe anything they post about him! It all comes straight from either the White House...or the Republican National Committee...and it's nothing but scurrilous lies and unconsionable falsehoods of the most heinous and despicable sort.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 06:30 PM

""and they had no further way to continue their 'Witch Hunt' against me,""

""Screaming, name-calling, and generally acting like a mad person draws attention to yourself and can affect your argument for your "cause de jour" adversely.""

Sometimes the object of a witch hunt has made herself look and sound like a witch.

Just saying.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,I have forgotten the alias I used.
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:31 PM

L.C.
As a guest in this forum I do not have the facility to bring up quotes made by me in previous threads forby being of an age when the memory is failing fast. You however, as a member, can no doubt bring up the required threads and thereby enable us all to check without schoolyard name calling who is a hypocrite and it is certainly not me. A check of threads you have posted in during the past six months should throw up the required information.
If you were to apply a little of the time you waste in obstreperous argument you would quickly find McTaggart who is not a whit diminished by your ignorance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:56 PM

Do you folks realize how (ironically) stupid this thread has become? How helpless some seem to break from their disruptive, angry patterns...and how helpless others are to resist reacting to the stimulus?

Read the initial post.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jan 13 - 12:27 AM

Yes. Indubitably.

And so?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,I have forgotten the alias I used.
Date: 29 Jan 13 - 03:28 AM

Good morning all.
I have supplied, as requested, the name of my source along with the first line of the first verse of what is a lost bawdy song relating to what old men got up to with young girls. I go no further as I am about to leave for the North East and in the words of that well known paedophile [a younger man] Captain Lawerence "Titus" Oates "I may be some time".
PS. Check out the said "Titus" for the veracity of my statement. He fathered a child on a twelve year old girl.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Jan 13 - 04:06 AM

the allegation that Oates had fathered a child with a girl who was only eleven at the time of conception. This allegation was, naturally, picked up by the media as fact. It is far, far from fact. There is no actual evidence for it whatsoever. It hinges entirely on the fact that a girl was told by her guardian (after many years) that her father was Captain Oates. How convenient - a heroic figure who couldn't answer back and deny it. If I was a woman who had no idea who my father was and had a little dream that he may be someone great, I'd like to hear he was Captain Oates too. It seems to me that this somehow became accepted in their family, and Michael Smith got hold of it and put it in his book and got more publicity because of it.

I kept turning the pages waiting for the actual evidence. Apparently, he looked a bit like some uncle of the family. That's it.

This is a man who (and this IS documented and attested to by those who knew him) showed absolutely no interest in women or sex at all for the rest of his life. This is a man who, according to everyone who knew him, behaved with the utmost decency to all he knew from any walk of life. There is no record of him or his family having anything to do with the woman or her family at any point in his life. She lived in Scotland. There is no record of him going to Scotland at this time. There is absolutely nothing to link them at any point. The person who told the girl he was her father was only her guardian. Her mother lived near to her but never mentioned anything of the sort.

Oates would have been eighteen at the time. This clearly, if it happened at all, which I believe it did not, was an incredibly brief relationship with no further contact - would it even be possible to recognise him as the same person 14 years later? And if the mother told the guardian that it was Oates (as who else would have done?), why didn't she tell the daughter herself? It just doesn't add up. It seems quite obvious that it was a nice story told to a girl who wanted a hero for a father. It is just a shame that this warming little family white lie couldn't have stayed within the family.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 29 Jan 13 - 04:56 AM

>>>>L.C.
As a guest in this forum I do not have the facility to bring up quotes made by me in previous threads forby being of an age when the memory is failing fast. You however, as a member, can no doubt bring up the required threads and thereby enable us all to check without schoolyard name calling who is a hypocrite and it is certainly not me. A check of threads you have posted in during the past six months should throw up the required information.
If you were to apply a little of the time you waste in obstreperous argument you would quickly find McTaggart who is not a whit diminished by your ignorance.<<<<<<

Then JOIN Mudcat and stop posting as a guest....Easy Peasy.
I most certainly am not going to search for a post you say you made. You want to throw it at me, you locate it..and not just the words you used but a link to the actual thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 29 Jan 13 - 05:11 AM

i have seen many references to this 'chongo' character - i guess it's an in-joke on this site - who or what is s/he? and why?

For me "chongo" is a code word for "the rest of this post is drivel". Whenever I see the word I move on to something more sensible. If it becomes clear that subsequent posters have descended to the chongo level, I abandon the thread and find something more interesting. I never open threads with titles that refer to chongo or chimps, apes, etc. It was much the same with references to William Shatner. Some here clearly see these in-jokes as hilariously funny but, for me, they are just a waste of bandwidth.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 29 Jan 13 - 05:30 AM

yes, i think i've learned that chongo has a nebulous sort of identity that seems to mean something slightly different to a few people in on the joke. don't think i need to get into that.
much as i like a bit of veering off the subject -winding up the machine this morning and finding a discussion on whether captain oates fathered a child in dodgy circumstances is - as i believe those pesky young folk say - random, extreme even.
what is more predictable is the bickering between LC and 'unkle boko?' or whoever. as the slightly less young people may say -'get a room!'
could you start a thread titled ,say,'a cat fight between one or two individuals - number whatever' (see OP) i would enjoy the occasional read of such a thread, as i enjoy an occasional row. however, each time i am doing it i am reminded of a more sensible friend saying to me - don't bother arguing with people who seem to be crazy - a passer-by will not be able to distinguish between you.

what are we meant to be discussing on here again?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat DISCUSSION forum
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 Jan 13 - 05:33 AM

what are we meant to be discussing on here again?

We're discussing "discussing". The confusion arises because some of us read it as "disgusting".

Regards


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