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Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs
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Subject: Lyr Add: CAM YE O'ER FRAE FRANCE From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle Date: 03 Feb 13 - 02:27 PM And of course:- CAM YE O'ER FRAE FRANCE Cam ye o'er frae France? Cam ye down by Lunnon? Saw ye Geordie Whelps And his bonny woman? Were ye at the place Ca'd the Kittle Housie? Saw ye Geordie's grace Riding on a goosie? Geordie he's a man There is little doubt o't; He's done a' he can Wha can do without it? Down there came a blade Linkin' like my lordie; He wad drive a trade At the loom o' Geordie. Though the claith were bad, Blythly may we niffer; Gin we get a wab, It makes little differ. We hae tint our plaid, Bannet, belt and swordie, Ha's and mailins braid -- But we hae a Geordie! Jocky's gane to France, And Montgomery's lady; There they'll learn to dance: Madame, are ye ready? They'll be back belyue Belted, brisk and lordly; Brawly may they thrive To dance a jig wi' Geordie! Hey for Sandy Don! Hey for Cockolorum! Hey for Bobbing John, And his Highland Quorum! Mony a sword and lance Swings at Highland hurdie; How they'll skip and dance O'er the bum o' Geordie! Note: When George I imported his seraglio of impoverished gentlewomen from Germany, he provided the Jacobite songwriters with material for some of their most ribald verses. Madame Kilmansegge, Countess of Platen, is referred to exclusively as "The Sow" in the songs, while the King's favorite mistress, the lean and haggard Madame Schulemburg (afterwards named Duchess of Kendall) was given the name of "The Goose". She is the "goosie" referred to in this song. The "blade" is the Count Koningsmark. "Bobbing John refers to John, Earl of Mar, who was at the time recruiting Highlanders for the Hanoverian cause. "Geordie Whelps" is, of course, George I himself. MJ Lunnon=London; Kittle Housie=Brothel; Linkin=Tripping along; Claith=Cloth; Niffer=Haggle; Gin=If; Wab=Web (or length) of cloth; Tint=Lost; Ha's and Mailins=Houses and Farmlands; Gane=Gone;=Belyve=Quickly; Brawly=Wall; Hurdie=Buttock |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler Date: 03 Feb 13 - 02:21 PM Tony Airmstrong Hyphenated Jones He's awfu' wee an' pawkie Ef he hadnae ben the Royal Groom He'd hae ben the royal jockie! |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE WEE MAGIC STANE (John McEvoy) From: Owen Woodson Date: 03 Feb 13 - 12:40 PM "mystical semi religious oral Tradition"? Oh I dunno. As far as having mystical properties is concerned the Stone of Scone fitted the bill perfectly. Until the lousy rotten cattle raiding, haggis thumping, whisky drinking, claymore wielding Scots (only kidding) had the brass neck (only kidding again) to steal it back from the hated imperious English ruling class, who screwed the populations of 3/4 of the world's surface for every red cent they could get - and then had the sheer damned gall to ram Rule Britannia down everybody's necks. And that time I wasn't kidding. THE WEE MAGIC STANE. John McEvoy Oh the Dean o' Westminster wis a powerful man, He held a' the strings o' the state in his hand. But with a' this great business it flustered him nane, Till some rogues ran away wi' his wee ma-gic stane." cho: Wi' a too-ra-li-oor-a-li-oor-a-li-ay." Noo the stane had great pow'rs that could dae such a thing And withoot it, it seemed, we'd be wantin' a king, So he called in the polis and gave this decree-- "Go an' hunt oot the Stane and return it tae me." So the polis went beetlin' up tae the North They huntit the Clyde and they huntit' the Forth [ie, west & east] But the wild folk up yonder jist kiddit them a' Fur they didnae believe it wis magic at a'. Noo the Provost o' Glesga, Sir Victor by name, Was awfy pit oot when he heard o' the Stane So he offered the statues that staun in the Square [made of stone] That the high churches' masons might mak a few mair. When the Dean o' Westminster wi' this was acquaint, He sent for Sir Victor and made him a saint, "Now it's no use you sending your statues down heah" [English accent] Said the Dean, "But you've given me a jolly good ideah." So he quarried a stane o' the very same stuff An' he dressed it a' up till it looked like enough Then he sent for the Press and announced that the Stane Had been found and returned to Westminster again. When the reivers found oot what Westminster had done, [thieves] They went aboot diggin' up stanes by the ton And fur each wan they feenished they entered the claim That THIS was the true and original stane. Noo the cream o' the joke still remains tae be tellt, Fur the bloke that was turnin' them aff on the belt At the peak o' production was so sorely pressed That the real yin got bunged in alang wi' the rest. So if ever ye come on a stane wi' a ring Jist sit yersel' doon and appoint yersel King Fur there's nane wud be able to challenge yir claim That ye'd croont yersel King on the Destiny Stane. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: Leadfingers Date: 03 Feb 13 - 11:22 AM Now sit back and wait ---Some prat will say "They CANT be folk songs as they are not part of some mystical semi religious oral Tradition ! And to make it even worse , they are entertaining ! Oh Horrors ! |
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Subject: Lyr Add: CORONATION CORONACH (Thurso Berwick) From: akenaton Date: 03 Feb 13 - 11:12 AM With best wishes... back to C index CORONATION CORONACH—Scottish Breakaway (Words: Thurso Berwick)
O, Scotland hesna got a King, |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: GUEST,Fred McCormick Date: 03 Feb 13 - 06:05 AM Here's another one, written by Vic Gammon and lifted from Digital Tradition by me. Kings and Queens of England Now Charles II had eleven bastard children And George III went mad And Edward VII they thought was Jack the Ripper But Richard III weren't as bad as Shakespeare thought he was Victoria lay back and thought of England Charles I lost his head Well the best thing about those Kings and Queens of England Is that most of them are dead. Singing Rule Britannia Britannia waives the rules Kings, Queens, Jacks and Knaves and tyrants Cheats and fools. Now William III was a protestant and Dutchman And James I was a Scot And George I spoke nothing else but German What a mixed-up, inter-bred lot. And William I was a grasping Norman bastard Believe me, it's no lie. Well there hasn't been an English king of England Since Harold got one in the eye. Chorus Now she was a well-heeled blue-blood Cinderella, Him Prince Charming with big ears, But he has a thing going with the ugly sister So it ended all in tears. So arise now ye ghosts of old Oliver Cromwell, Brave Harrison and Tom Paine. Won't you rid our land of this monstrous carbuncle And bring sunshine after the reign. Chorus Note: "Monstrous carbuncle" was Prince Charles' infamous description of some piece of modern architecture (design for the Tate Gallery extension??) |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: GUEST,Fred McCormick Date: 03 Feb 13 - 06:02 AM Sadly enough, there's not all that many of them around. Here's one however which ought to be in wider circulation. I should warn folks, it's been somewhat altered and trimmed by me but, if I remember right, you can find the original in Pepys' Ballads. It goes to the tune of Greensleeves, BTW. Epithalamium; Or a Wedding Song On the Supposed Marriage of the Supposed Prince of Wales, to the supposed Grandchild of the French King, the Supposed Son Of Louis the 13th, as it was with the consent of his holiness, (or rather his wickedness), the Pope of Rome, Solemnized From Paris to Purgatory the third of the Last Greek Calends 1689. To the Tune of, Lulla by baby, &c. Licensed and Entered According to Order. 1. Pray rub up your Ears, and I'll tell you a thing, The wonder of Subjects, the Wit of a King: Then pray give attention to what I do Sing, Ch; Sing tantara rara rara Boys hey, Boys hey, sing tantara rara rara Boys hey 2. The Young Prince of Wales he went over to France, To fiddle and fence, and learn to Dance; And there he did meet with a Mistress by chance Ch: 3. He spy'd from his Cradle a Princess, that Cry'd, The Dauphin's young Daughter with Swadling Clouts ty'd: And fell in a Passion, as if he would have dy'd. Ch: 4. The Prince to a minute, was half a year old; The Princess a quarter, but bucksome and bold, And both they were willing their Loves to unfold. Ch: 5. Young Innocent mumbl'd, and fumbl'd the Wench; And she sweetly answered, by Smiling, in French: But she with her Rattle his passion did quench. Ch: 6. At last they agreed, and to marriage they went: The day being appointed, mistakes to prevent; And the Turk's Great Defender he gave his Consent. Ch: 7. The Priest he made halt, and joined their Hands; And thus he secur'd them, in Wedlock Bands, Yet neither had Kingdom, nor People, nor Lands. Ch: 8. When both were a Bed, and the Candle put out, And the Bride-groom drew nearer he Shit in his Clout, And the Wedding did end with a Stink and a Rout. Ch: |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: Allan Conn Date: 02 Feb 13 - 06:54 PM Mind not that the Wee Wee German Lairdie ia an anti-monarchist song. There are plenty of Scottish folk songs supporting one House or the other but as far as older songs go I can't imagine there are that many which are anti-monrachist! |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler (Well-known pedant) Date: 02 Feb 13 - 06:09 PM Or even "Lairdie"! |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler (Well-known pedant) Date: 02 Feb 13 - 06:08 PM Yes, but it's hardly a Folk Song is it? However good it does its job, it's a modern song and we nkow who wrote it. Folk songs are "Wee Wee German Laidie" and its like, transmitted through tradition. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: Leadfingers Date: 02 Feb 13 - 03:42 PM Leon Rosselsson's 'Procreation' was a nice dig at more than one 'Royal Family' ! Procreation , procreation ,there's nothing so Royal as procreation Traditionally we spend our time Perpetuating the Royal Line |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle Date: 02 Feb 13 - 03:24 PM I've written a few https://soundcloud.com/#denise_whittle/well-done-liz I seem to remember Leon Rosselson wrote one about The Queen - it was in Songsmith magazine - nice words. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: Steve Gardham Date: 02 Feb 13 - 02:14 PM And hundreds of English, Scottish, Irish on the Bodleian Broadside Ballads site. There are of course lots of pro-monarchist as well. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: Taconicus Date: 02 Feb 13 - 02:06 PM Look for Scottish songs; you'll find many more. Myriads. |
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Subject: Anti-Monarchist Folk Songs From: GUEST Date: 02 Feb 13 - 02:00 PM I am looking for British songs and tunes from all ages which reflect ant-monarchist sentiments. Thanks Andrew |
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