BS: The world's worst metaphor?

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: GUEST,Musket being a smartarse
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 01:40 PM

If you saw people who were dead and alive, you didn't. The wave collapses as observation is interference. Proving becomes a self fulfilling prophesy. Mind you, medieval quill pushers knew that to their advantage well before Heisenberg or Bose.

Good job Copenhagen is also famous for beer and lovely ladies....

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 09:48 AM

Hmm. We had a dog who was embarrassed to be seen when he'd shit. He'd try to conceal himself in the bushes. I realize that's unusual, but dogs do have their quirks.

Also had a guineau pig who peed vastly more water than he ever drank! I eventually realized he was creating water as a byproduct of all the (dry) food he was eating...through combustion. You take hydrocarbons...the food...oxidize it (burn it) through the digestive process...and the byproducts of same are shit (carbon and various other byproducts from the food), energy (to power the pig), and H2O! Eureka!

Now...dead AND alive... Hell, that's easy! I've seen any number of people who were dead AND alive at the same time.

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: Musket
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 08:44 AM

Georgiansilver. Dead AND alive. Just saying...

You know, Gnu.. The dog does prefer humans to observe. If he does it in the rough, on the dead dredgings of the dyke we walk alongside, he gets a gravy bone. He wouldn't get one if I didn't observe him. Hence he seeks to influence the outcome and the wave collapses.

Grishka, you can turn the video on or off, but you can't alter its spin.....

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 05:35 AM

You guys crack me up. What a great thread! I want a tshirt with "WANTED... DEAD and ALIVE.

Musket... if the walker didn't observe perhaps the dog wouldn't shit.

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 04:54 AM

Musket, I'm not sure whether I would like to be "taken" by the above gentlemen. I think I'd prefer being a PhD. Also, if the lady happened to appear in real life in the life of any of us, I wonder how long our love would last. What wonderful things are videos at home: you can switch them on and off whenever you like!

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 04:43 AM

A nice play on words in the video! The cat is "Dead AND alive" she says!!! But actually the cat is 'Dead OR alive' we know it cannot be both at the same time!........ just saying!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: GUEST,Musket sans utube
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 03:52 AM

You may not be quite so photogenic as the young lady either.

Some of the old codgers above seem rather taken by her.

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 03:47 AM

In my untiring search for a better "metaphor" linking quantum mechanics to the life status of animals, I was inspired by the current season in Europe:

• A particle of uncertain position resembles a fly flying around at infinite speed near a window.
• A fly swatter is a location measuring device.
• If you swat a sufficient number of "identical" flies, you can get an idea of their probability distribution.

I consider sending my window to a university, as a PhD thesis in didactics of physics. I would not upload a video on YouTube though, since the effect may be that animal protectors try to ban quantum physics from curricula ...

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: GUEST,Musket sans Heisenberg
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 03:43 AM

The dog can be either side of the Atlantic. This is known as wave duality. Note the lack of cause and effect though, that is the bedrock and you reach the point of taking it on board without really accepting it.

This can be explained by the fact that this particular dog shits out more than he eats. But if either I don't go up the garden with a poop scoop or I don't ask the dog walker how he got on during the day, how can I know that? He defies physics and doesn't defy physics. Instantaneously.

Perhaps Musket has a clockwise spin and Ian anticlockwise?

Perhaps mixing metaphysical with physical ain't such a good idea after all. .....



By the way. The cat isn't a bad metaphor, it was down right sarcasm at the time. Burlesque is just politeness. ....

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 12:51 AM

You never know. The dog may be of the opinion that Ian is imaginary, but we'd have to interview the dog to find out.

I've been watching this woman's other videos. She is delightful. Very witty. I bet she's a wonderful teacher.

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 07:03 PM

So let me get this straight,

Ian does not exist here, only Musket.
Musket is not Ian,

So exactly who is teaching Quantum Physics to whose dog?

Does the dog have a quantum existence whereby when Ian observes it, it is real but when Musket teaches it Physics, it is imaginary?

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: GUEST,Musket sans Heisenberg
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 04:42 PM

Lots of burlesque activity from "output orientated" members. Usually helps prevent absurd notions from growing legs.

Waveforms usually collapse when metaphysical input rears its head.

The video? fascinating to see her explore the human necessity of the metaphor. Einstein referred to this in his letters to Nils Bohr on the subject. Make interesting reading. If anyone likes her approach, you may be interested in the book, How to teach quantum physics to your dog. I forget who wrote it without looking, but bought it on Kindle last year. My youngest lad revommendef6it. He is influenced by the easy going style of explaining complicated notions. His PhD thesis is around quantum tunnelling and he does try to keep his old man up to date, but as it isn't beer or pickled eggs, he has problems engaging me.

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 11:21 AM

:=)

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 12:09 AM

I agree 100%.

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jul 13 - 08:18 PM

I am in love! Totally smitten in my heart and in my mind! Now... that's a babe!

Ahhhh... sorry. Ummm. Indeed, the lass speaks volumes and her treatise is laudible and... ohhhh... yeah... all that and she just melts my mind and heart. That's the lass I wanted to meet 30 years ago.

Men go crazy for a smart dreesed mind. Apologies to ZZ Top.

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jul 13 - 05:42 PM

Quite well done!

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Jul 13 - 05:35 PM

And the best part is that as an 8 minute video it is knowledge that you have which is unattainable to several of our more output orientated members.

Subject: RE: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jul 13 - 05:23 PM

Marvelous! She's a smart one, and great fun to listen to.

Subject: BS: The world's worst metaphor?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Jul 13 - 04:42 PM

The cat is dead AND alive!