BS: Don't argue from ignorance

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: akenaton
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 03:32 AM

The "pack" are coming unstuck it seems....:00

Steve, having a bunch of letters after your name, does not make you a sensible, reasonable, person?

Some of the wisest people, who were the biggest benefit to our little community, had very little formal education.

But they sure knew lots about life.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Musket
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 08:15 AM

I can see the bit about lack of education, but I'm struggling with the wise and knowing about life bits.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 10:05 AM

Ah yes, the University of Life. I once worked on Radcliffe Parks Dept, looking after Ainsworth bowling green and park, with a bloke who constantly belittled my university education, saying that he had that rare thing called Common Sense that no number of professors could ever impart to me. 18 months later he'd finally drunk himself to death.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 10:22 AM

All Vietnamese walk in single file. I saw one yesterday and he was walking in single file. There ya go.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Stringsinger
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 01:11 PM

"Common sense" can sometimes be misleading. We, as a species, are all capable of different degrees of delusion, hard-wired into our brains. "Common sense" is best accepted when it is objectively and scientifically verifiable.

We are all ignorant about something but to argue is often to question what is accepted and that can be interpreted by authoritarian types as ignorance.

The antidote to rigidity is to keep an open mind so long as your brain doesn't fall out.

I don't think I have to keep an open mind, however, about slavery, fascism, abuse or war. I'm opposed to all of them and haven't heard any reasonable arguments that could cause me to change my mind.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 01:36 PM

Steve, I've had that thrown at me a few times over the years. "You people with so-called education and letters after your name, you haven't a clue what the world is really like... no common sense... I was schooled in the University of life...blah blah blah." There isn't an answer to it, and I have an idea it may stem from resentment at their own lack of educational success. After all, everyone had the same educational opportunities. While they were out dancing and living it up, I was studying hard and writing hundreds of essays. Not to mention exams, tutorials, seminars, and then after graduation, professional studies. Yet I do feel I have a great deal of common sense too - it's a quality I value. One can be an academic and sensible at the same time!

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 01:50 PM

"Ah yes, the University of Life. I once worked on Radcliffe Parks Dept, looking after Ainsworth bowling green and park, with a bloke who constantly belittled my university education, saying that he had that rare thing called Common Sense that no number of professors could ever impart to me. 18 months later he'd finally drunk himself to death. "

Anyone care to analyze this for evidence of cause and effect?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Musket
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 02:09 PM

I used to work with a bloke called Lol. Any relation perchance Jack?

I suppose I can laugh at both ends of the spectrum. I never went to university, no batchelors or traffic cones in halls of residence or any of that malarkey, but I confuse the system slightly by a couple of post graduate items all the same.

Not that many people teaching at a university who never went to one for that matter, but I do a bit here and there for a medical deanery.

My common sense? I don't have any. Never have had. Drank and shagged my way through the first forty years and tried to make up for it since.

No. No morals, no lessons to learn. Just bits of our individual pasts that make us what we are.

Some of us appreciate decent football and nice sounding instruments. Some mistake league position for skill and play a gob iron.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Lighter
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 03:50 PM

> One can be an academic and sensible at the same time!

Yeah, but take it from me, it ain't easy.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 05:20 PM

I tawt I taw an UFO! I DID, I DID taw an UFO! Oh, wait. It's not unidentified; it was the Flying Spaghetti Monster, blessed be he.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 06:10 PM

In the movie 'Rebel Without a Cause', Dennis Hopper had a line, as they were getting in their car...It may apply(but not to you or your last post, someone else's)...."Shut your mouth before your guts run out."

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 06:24 PM

Because I have been very busy and had to be out of town for 3 days, I have posted very little the last 3-4 weeks. I have studiously avoided this thread, as I have entirely too many things I could say. (Not that anyone really misses my erudite contributions ☺) I'd be caught up in it and lose sleep.

Ok... carry on.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 06:45 PM

Some of us appreciate decent football and nice sounding instruments. Some mistake league position for skill and play a gob iron.

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 06:47 PM

"Ah yes, the University of Life. I once worked on Radcliffe Parks Dept, looking after Ainsworth bowling green and park, with a bloke who constantly belittled my university education, saying that he had that rare thing called Common Sense that no number of professors could ever impart to me. 18 months later he'd finally drunk himself to death. "

Anyone care to analyze this for evidence of cause and effect?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Heheh. Anyone care to analyse what this Wacko post actually means? :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 06:50 PM

>>"Heheh. Anyone care to analyse what this Wacko post actually means? :-) <<<

You have asked that dozens of times. No one ever answers.

It's because you are the only one dumb enough not to know.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Lighter
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 06:53 PM

So if I identify a flying object as obviously an alien spacecraft, it's not a "UFO" and nobody's interested.

Makes about as much sense as anything else around here.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 09:45 PM

You have asked that dozens of times. No one ever answers.

It's because you are the only one dumb enough not to know.

Hardly, Wackeroo. I asked the question once about one specific post. I can't have asked it dozens of times because I hadn't even read the post about which I asked the question until just now. You really are a shallow and useless fellow, aren't you, Wackers. Would you care to perhaps bugger off and ride bikes?

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 10:25 PM

Lighter, I think the Nobel Committee would notice. And CNN.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: GUEST,An Actual Scientist
Date: 17 Apr 14 - 11:07 PM

yes, let's look at cause and effect... promise a laugh.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Apr 14 - 07:29 AM

It's because you are the only one dumb enough not to know.

No, Sorry Jack, I have no idea either. What has cause and effect got to do with anything? Are you suggesting that the poor man drank himself to death because of something Steve did? If so that is a ridiculous claim to make and made, I would guess, purely from ignorance.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Lighter
Date: 18 Apr 14 - 08:21 AM

They (sorry not to be more precise) once asked agnostic science writer Martin Gardner if he was "the world's biggest skeptic."

Gardner replied, "I doubt it."

Subject: RE: BS: Don't argue from ignorance
From: Lighter
Date: 18 Apr 14 - 08:35 AM

I said if *I* identified it, not a bunch of close-minded scientists.

There's one now!

Gotta go!