BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 26 Aug 14 - 04:39 AM

Backwoodsman, "peadophilia" was a joke - the clue is in the rest of the line.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Aug 14 - 04:23 AM

Fuckfuckfuck! PIECE!

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Aug 14 - 04:22 AM

I've stayed in many hotels and guest houses over the years, some reputable, others less so. I'm fairly certain that, based on the law of averages, thieves, wife-beaters, murderers, rapists, paedophiles (note spelling, Dick), and a whole raft of other sundry undesirables, stayed at them at one time or another - possibly even at the same time I was there

That doesn't make me, or anyone else, any of those things.

A person's name written on a peice of paper doth not a paedophile make.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Aug 14 - 04:12 AM

why wait til you're on the jury - write to him and ask him. then you can tell us.

peadophilia - would that be garden, processed, or mushy..?

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Aug 14 - 01:49 AM

one solitary accusation? if I was on a jury I would like to know why he allegedly visited elm park guest house, a place where people convicted of peadophilia also visited at approximately the same time.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 25 Aug 14 - 07:01 PM

Well, I was very glad when punk rock emerged. After all those years of British Glam Rock it was a breath of fresh air. As in all decades some bands were better than others but music did need the edgier sound of the punk influence for the kids at that time IMO in Britain anyway. Thank goodness audiences now appreciate all genres of music and the musicianship of bands from all decades etc. You only have to watch Glastonbury to see the variety of performers that top the bill there.

.... Back to Cliff Richard he had built up such an enigma about himself through the decades that someone somewhere would have been out there trying to find any mud to dig up. Maybe he brought it upon himself I don't know but I hope he is innocent of whatever it is supposed to be about because once tarnished with rumours like this it sticks whether innocent or not that is the problem. What about the people no longer with us or in the public eye, how is really known about them especially if they had been cunning enough to cover the tracks? It is good that victims are able to blow the whistle on abusers but it would be a travesty if someone else has got away with worse things. I don't know what all the details of what he is accused of only that the alleged victim was under 16. It seems to be more about homophobia to me. If there were more accusations against him then that would be different but one solitary accusation?

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Claire M
Date: 25 Aug 14 - 11:27 AM

Hiya……. & rather boring. I hope not too. Mind you I also hoped so w/ someone else, who used to light me up like a Belisha beacon. I was friggin' desperate for them not to be guilty……they were. Nearly brought me to tears.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 09:28 PM

yeah, remember now, hadn't thought about that for a while...

all that gobbing, safety pins, and sniffin glue.. what a bunch of bonehead bellends !!!

Me and my mates were 6th form college & youth theatre smart arses playing in a punk band
who took the piss out of brainless followers of tabloid inspired prefab punk culture trends & fashions...

I did have a johnny and a tampax pinned to my onstage T shirt.

Even bigger joke is, the arsewit punks thought we were serious and all rather cool...

..and we slipped in the odd punked up Shadows instrumentals at gigs...

Oh those heady days of 6th form girls on the pill, cider and magic mushrooms...

To think we all thought Cliff was a middle aged god bothering square..


If only anyone suspected what scary dark sordid things he might really have been getting up to..???

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,Rahere
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 08:05 PM

anyway, back on thread, the latest is theat Keith Vaz, the Chairman of th House of Commons Home Affairs Select Committee, confirms that the South Yorkshire Police have used the term "cover-up" in respect to the BBC, which the Committee takes a serious view of: the shadow of Leveson looms large. The hearing is on 2nd September.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Ed T
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 07:05 PM

I skipped out on the punk culture way back. Never really had much interest in most of the music nor the internal social aspects.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 06:27 PM

olde Englishe custom at punk rock concerts

with punk gobbing you don't gob spit. you get a mouthful of beer and gob it on your fellow punks. its a sign of bonhomie and mutual jokey disrespect.

i thought you had you had punk rock in America.

reminds me a bit of Zappa - looking out at a tiny audience. 'This is where the twist revival starts ....Bristol is ready for the twist..'

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 06:21 PM

olde Englishe custom at punk rock concerts

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 06:17 PM

gob is spitting, cliff doesnt gob on people, cliff is an upright christian, he is also a white engaging showbiz personality, the same as jimmy saville.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Ed T
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 05:05 PM

Wtf is gob?

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 03:58 PM

still its not right to gob on people -even if you are a punk.

Cliff wouldn't gob on people - not even Americans. Cliff is a Christian. not to mention being an engaging showbiz personality.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 06:54 AM

"Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker - PM
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 11:20 AM

"It always makes me uncomfortable (and puzzled) when a referee seems to become a quasi sports player, a judge acts more like a prosecuting attorney than a judge, and a policeman acts more like a judge than a policeman. "

.. yeah.. even more so when such police & judges have the power to make statements and evidence disapear,
and control who can and can't speak to court, as and when it suits them...."
The establishment call it justice.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 23 Aug 14 - 12:27 PM

"I am also sorry you have had negative experience of believers."

Encountering someone who fervently and unquestioningly believes in something invisible, for which there's no evidence is always a negative experience for me, pete!

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 23 Aug 14 - 09:27 AM

I would hope, punkfolkrocker, that my fellow evangelicals will be withholding judgments until the matter is [if ever] resolved. certainly I will be very disappointed if it is proved that he is lying and is guilty, but it wouldn't be my first disappointment !.
I am also sorry you have had negative experience of believers.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 11:41 AM

Briefly back to topic.

Innocent or not, Cliff Richard is certainly able to afford the 'best' defence lawyers money can buy.
Plus he has had plenty of head start to get his case together
if and when it ever goes to cout.

On a side note.
I recently spent a day in the company of a large number of devout British Evangelicals.
A branch of my family & their church congregation I don't see too often.

It'd be interesting to know how their informal discussions on Cliff are going right now...???
Especially one Pastor who has the honour of being the most obnoxious individual
I have encountered in quite a few years.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Ed T
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 11:28 AM

""It's always the people that know you the least, that judge you the most. ""

Not who said this quote?

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 11:20 AM

"It always makes me uncomfortable (and puzzled) when a referee seems to become a quasi sports player, a judge acts more like a prosecuting attorney than a judge, and a policeman acts more like a judge than a policeman. "

.. yeah.. even more so when such police & judges have the power to make statements and evidence disapear,
and control who can and can't speak to court, as and when it suits them.....

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Ed T
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 10:40 AM

My two pence (aka, cents, or pesos in the actual Americas).

It always makes me uncomfortable (and puzzled) when a referee seems to become a quasi sports player, a judge acts more like a prosecuting attorney than a judge, and a policeman acts more like a judge than a policeman.

Moderators, like the rest of us are free to have their own opinions and express them about whatever they wish (after all, it is not our site) and, not being infallible, getting caught up in an issue.I also have respect for the mods here, as it is is likely a trying and thankless role.Thanks for your work.

But, it also makes me feel a bit uncomfortable when mods get directly into the thick of a discussion, versus participating and "being seen" as "the referee" - being above the many disputes (some that seem personal, others not as much). No one wins when this happens, especially the discussiin at hand.

I am not attempting to take sides, nor single anyone out for not acting appropriately. Just sharing my gut feelings on the evolution of this (below thetline, non musical) thread, that IMO, does not seem that much worse, or embarassing to Mudcat, than many others in thd past.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 10:21 AM

oh, is it a blame game now ???

I reluctantly raised the point that this is one of the threads of particular interest and concern to UK members and guests.

I would not need to do this, if it was'nt for the fact that a dictatorial mod with clearly no sympathy of respect
for certain UK based issue discussions,
seems to be obsessed with aggressively intruding, interfering, and disrupting our flow of debate in such threads ???.

It would perhaps be better if there were a few more UK mods on the team.

I'd might even suggest myself for the position if I had more time to honour the commitment.

However, as I have a deep distrust for anyone who volunteers for positions of power and authority
over other individuals in a community.

No worries about that ever happening.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 09:56 AM

punfolkrocker brought up the nationalities, giovanni. I responded. And a site situated in the U.S. northeast owned by an American individual, yes, I'd say it's an American site. Not exclusive in coverage, but American.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: The Sandman
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 08:55 AM

i agree, Al.
however nobody should be named until they are charged with a crime.
I am very suspicious of Cliff, it wouldnt surprise me if people much higher in the establishment than him like members of the royal family were even guilty, but it all has to come out.
but should not come out until someone has been found guilty. the media have a lot to answer for.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 08:44 AM

I sing more like Cliff than Sam Larner. Youe SRS, we never had music stations like you did. Everything was on ration. And this young guy standing up and fronting a guitar band was the most exciting thing on our young horizon.

To say he was influential to Brits would be a massive understatement. He let us down getting involved with cheesy god botherers and - forces of repression like Mary Whitehouse.

But I think i can say with certainty a shudder is running through many English people. You see Cliff has always been schtum about his sexuality. People thought maybe it was because he was gay. but why remain schtum when so many others were open - Freddy, Elton, will Young etc.

We are really dreading - musicians or civilians - finding out that something more sinister was the reason for silence all these years....

watch this space, as they say...

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,Silas
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 05:06 AM

At heart an american site?

What exactly do you mean by that?

Do these sort of comments question your qualification to moderate?

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,giovanni
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 04:49 AM

With all respect, you're way off on a tangent there soldier, but feel free to disagree with whatever you choose.

g

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: The Sandman
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 03:28 AM

I disagree, I find nothing to criticise in the moderators decision to delete posts on this thread., that is just my opinion, for what it is worth.
The moderators are volunteers, who are doing their best to be even handed and who are trying to prevent threads getting out of control and unpleasant, please give them a break.
this forum would be worse without moderators, moderating, if you dont like it dont visit the forum, and dont visit this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,giovanni
Date: 22 Aug 14 - 02:03 AM

please allow me to continue that pfr

However...........this thread is "below the line" where supposedly any subject can be discussed.

Amazingly, I find that the behaviour in the thread has been remarkably good.

Except for the intrusion of a mod who wishes to bring nationality into it.

g

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 11:35 PM

Take a look at the list of contributors to this thread,
a fair few dedicated 'serious musicians' amongst us, I'd say...

.. and I'm merely one of the least experienced musicians here, I've only been playing for 40 years.

Cliff Richard may be a complete unknown to most Americans.
He may be proven in court to be a very damaged human being.
But to many of us, he, or more specifically, his backing band,
is the reason we ever started playing in the first place.

Stilly River Sage, you are considered a very valuable member of mudcat community,
and can be very helpful in your areas of expertise.
For that we thank you.

However.........................

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 09:19 PM

This is a particularly 'UK culture & issues' content thread;
we do not welcome the over intrusive antagonistic deletions and disruptions

This kind of low-brow slug fest thread is an embarrassment to the mudcat community and is, I believe, a huge part of the reason why so many serious musicians have fled. If this is "culture" then I would suggest it is a mold or fungus, it isn't contributing to the music conversation of blues and folk. And this is, at heart, an American site.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Ed T
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 10:49 AM

""....when you read re all of this, as sad & as nasty as it is, it jogs your memory, & you end up singing ½ - forgotten songs, that you once loved, badly ?""

Could it be earworms?

Earworms: Why songs get stuck in our heads:

earworms 

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Claire M
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 09:24 AM

Hiya!! Don't you find, when you read re all of this, as sad & as nasty as it is, it jogs your memory, & you end up singing ½ - forgotten songs, that you once loved, badly ?? No, just me, then!

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 07:21 AM

[No anonymous guest posting - no silly comedy wise crack name - i put my 'real' name to whay I say here]

Please do not delete Lizzie's posts in this thread.

Whoever the over-officious mod is that interfered with and wrecked the 'Rolf' threads.
Could you please leave this one alone.
I ask that other mods monitor the actions of their 'suspect' co-worker.

This is a particularly 'UK culture & issues' content thread;
we do not welcome the over intrusive antagonistic deletions and disruptions
that marred our other recent threads on related matters, of serious concern to UK based members & guests.

Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 02:43 AM

Thank you, Michael...sadly, the stay is very short, after the response from one of, in my opinion, the most bullying of the Mudcat Mods.

I am WELL aware of the Miss Marple and Alice bit, thank you, which is WHY I said what I said, Maggie. It is called...HUMOUR!!!!!

Might I suggest you LEARN about it.

Good to see you're up to your usual 'pedant' bullying though......

I'll leave now....

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 01:17 AM

Welcome back, Lizzie.

❤·x·≈Michael≈·x·❤

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 12:28 AM

Any more Rolf Harris gets deleted, Lizzie. That is not what this thread is about. And pedant alert: it is Miss Jane Marple, but it was Alice in Wonderland who said "Curiouser and curiouser."

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 20 Aug 14 - 06:41 PM

Come on, chaps, keep up!

This is Mark Williams-Thomas, SuperSleuth, who banned me from his page just yesterday, after weeks of me asking him where the fecking evidence is to place Rolf Harris at Leigh Park Community Centre, where he was alleged to have abused a 7 year old. (there is NO evidence at all as he was never there)

Mark Williams-Thomas

Mark is the man who told the world about Rolf Harris and about Cliff Richard too, just the other day, although he's denied being the one to tip off the BBC...yeah, right, Mark!

He makes his living from er....paedophiles...and is now busy trying to convince the world that Almost Everyone IS A Paedophile, especially Evil Rolf, to whom he links with foul newspaper articles about him....

Sooooooo....I took over his page for a while, phoned him up ooooh, 5 times I think now, left messages, but strangely, he never rang back.. ;0)

Mark is the man who made the documentary about Savile, the one which gave rise to Operation Yewtree. He's an ex-police officer, from the Surrey force, said to have left under a cloud, was taken to court over alleged blackmail, but was found not guilty of this.

He also works for SKY NEWS as their Crime Reporter and loves to put links in to The Sun newspaper....

Er....follow The Rupert Murdoch Trail on that one!

I did point out how ODD it was for a bloke who is the Paedophile Finder General (as some folks call him) to be linking to a rag of a paper which has nude women on Page 3, which little girls aspire to become...

Cliff Richard is INNOCENT until otherwise proven, but he has been hanged, drawn and quartered by those who are following The Elm story which is all over the internet in various guises...

Apparently, you see, so the story goes, young Cliff abused young boys there, because he's on a list which also states he was known as Kitty...and there are photos of himself with The Krays (yes, they are out there) and some somewhat dodgy looking Lords (yes, they're out there too)...again, from when he was very young.

He also, according to the stories, took out Barbadian citizenship, relinquishing his British one, because he could not be extradited from Barbados, when they would try to bring him back to bang him away for the rest of his days....

Odd that he would just fly home under his own decision then? Odd that he's been in Portugal for ages too, as you'd have expected him to take refuge in a Barbados Cave somewhere under the circumstances...

Of course, The Krays drew in MANY entertainers, Barbara Windsor being just one, I believe...

But no, these photos mean, because folks know they do, that Cliff did dodgy things backalong, except, they don't know this at all.....

There's another bloke out there called Ben Fellows, to whom almost everyone has been very horrid at some time or another it seems, for Ben has plastered the internet with videos and articles of himself, accusing celebrity after celebrity of GawdKnowsWhatWithBellsOn!

Did I tell you that Cliff, according to one video on youtube, also makes his grapes grow SO big in his vineyard due to, allegedly, using the crushed bones of children as fertilizer, according to one TOTAL NUTTER I stumbled across the other day?   

These people are SO messed up in the space where their brains should be, that it truly beggars belief..


Meanwhile, having read Rolf's autobiography, confirming my thoughts that we have just put one of the kindest, gentlest folks ever in prison, I'm now reading Jim Davidson's new book, about his time with Officer Yewtree from Operation Yewtree, called 'No Further Action - The Darkest Year Of My Life' and it is mind-boggingly worrying, such is the way ANY man can now be arrested now, if a woman decides to make an allegation of sexual abuse or rape, against him....Not even a specific year is needed any longer, nor a specific place....

Find out what the Crown Prosecution Service are up to, as they've now changed the way they're doing things, in their efforts to bring in more prosecutions for these crimes...

You can check out this page on Rolf too, if you like:

Support Rolf Harris

There is SERIOUS SHITE going on in this country at present...I have no doubt that paedophile rings exist. I do not believe Cliff Richard is a part of them. I do believe there are many sick people in power and that the British Boarding School System has played a huge part in this over many decades too....

Right now though, I'm tired, tired of phoning up the Operation Yewtree officers, the Crown Prosecution Service too, asking them what the fuck is going on and WHERE is all the EVIDENCE and WHY are SINGLE juries being FORCED to judge MULTIPLE cases at ONE trial, thus prejudicing juries in the first place, etc..etc..etc...

Even the former Attorney General stated a few days back that he doesn't understand what going on any longer....

We're all a bit fucked, to be honest, not just environmentally, but as a Species in general, or perhaps I should replace 'all a bit' with 'TOTALLY', for no longer is ANY man innocent till proven guilty..and even if they're proven guilty, chances are that they are innocent now....but the CPS only wants convictions and that's ALL that matters now....

Rolf's team are seeking permission to appeal. I hope to god they're granted this and that this time they put together a legal team who are able to FIGHT for him....

Meanwhile, Cliff may end up taking the British Police and the BBC to Court himself....

And Mark Williams-Thomas will be reporting on every aspect, whilst STILL refusing to explain to me HOW Rolf could EVER have abused a 7 year old when he was never AT the venue where she placed him.....

"Curiouser and Fecking Curiouser!"...said Miss Alice Marple.....

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,Rahere
Date: 20 Aug 14 - 03:05 PM

I'm quietly wondering whether it's not got something to do with the cult of celebrity. If you can't live a life outside of your own four walls because some wazzock is going to invade your privacy with his camera doing selfies simply to get his own fifteen minutes of fame, then it's a fair bet your human needs will become twisted - you will have no private life in society. Certainly true of the Roman Church, who do the same out of their own distorted sense of aestheticism. I think of Cliff and Sue Barker shortly before the time these allegations occurred, when the Press seemed to think they owned them: could this be aftermath? In which case, a plea of diminished responsibilty may be of the order of the day.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Aug 14 - 01:56 PM

Anyone who abuses children, especially vulnerable children, has gone beyond the pale Clare.

Patting the arses of sixteen year old "groupies", was in a different league.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Claire M
Date: 20 Aug 14 - 01:04 PM

I hope he wasn't, but as Al said, they don't investigate/raid houses if there's nothing to investigate *for*. I'm worried for my flatmate though. She had a nasty argument w/ somebody once, & like me she hates confrontation. She had a lil bag w/ Cliff's likeness on, & she was clutching it to her as if she thought he'd come to life, put his arms round her & tell her everything would be all right.

What does one do when part of one's life is tangled in the dread yew tree's poison branches?? Do you carry on listening to them?? Do you throw their stuff out/smash it up, vowing in deep sobbing tears never to listen to it again, & denying your lifelong enjoyment of their work ?? How do you fill the gaping hole in your life ??

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 20 Aug 14 - 04:30 AM

Regarding the 1962 Live album.
If nothing else there is something on there for folkies. Sort of!
"All My Trial" and - from the skiffle repertoire - " Rovin' Gambler".

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,SByers
Date: 19 Aug 14 - 07:58 PM

Google search for "kitty elm barnes" - for lots of references.

And see:

http://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/27/cliff-richard-operation-fernbridge-elm-guest-house-and-the-kitty-connection

Not good.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 19 Aug 14 - 06:09 PM

This is the one you really need

The Cliff Richard Show: Live At The ABC Kingston, 1962

I've not played mine for a long time because I can't remember which box it is in.

It was unreleased locked up in the vaults for decades because aparently the EMI sound engineer boffins
considered this live recording a reject for 'technical problems'.
Wouldn't it be ironic if those audio 'defects' were the sound of slightly overdriven Vox amps
- Cliff and The Shads suppressed by the EMI establishment because they rocked too hard !!???

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 19 Aug 14 - 04:43 PM

But at the end of the day - thank goodness for this!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK2A6JCELoc

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Aug 14 - 08:01 AM

yes the girl he sang lessons in love with the young ones. it was jet's wife, I believe. Carol something....

jet made the allegation.

The Shadows final concert on Sky Arts to night. Summer Holiday on ITV3 at the weekend.

I wish the cops would resolve the situation one way or the other. lets face it, they don't raid peoples' houses for nothing. either theres an explanation , or not. I hated all that hypocritical Festival of Light shit he got caught up with. But I really hope he wasn't part of that Saville set.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 19 Aug 14 - 05:37 AM

Wasn't there an allegation (in Hank's biography?) that Jet Harris left the Shadows because Cliff stole his girlfriend?

RtS

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Aug 14 - 03:56 PM

Well, it starts to get juicy. The Leveson Commission worked for Parliament, the Home Office Select Committee in particular, and Keith Vaz, the Chair of ther Committtee, has hust called for the Police and BBC to present their explanations by Friday. The BBC has replied "The BBC does not name its sources, nor is it appropriate to go into detail around editorial processes...The BBC agreed to follow normal journalistic practice and not to publish a story that might jeopardise a police inquiry." The Police seems to have risen to a trawl, a BBC reporter "who made it clear he knew of the existence of an investigation...it was agreed that the reporter would be notified of the date of the house search in return for delaying publication of any of the facts." Which did not happen.

What the BBC has forgotten is that they have their new Trust Chairman has to renegotiate their licence fee, and the DCMS is having difficulty finding anyone wanting to take the poisoned chalice on. Difficulty? I'd say it's just become impossible. I revise my opinion from Cliff becoming very rich indeed at the BBC's expense to Cliff becoming the next Chairman of the Trust, with an agenda which will not be at all pleasant for those concerned.

Subject: RE: BS: Cliff Richard - police investigation
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Aug 14 - 01:20 PM

Re: penultimate and antepenultimate posts: First song Rod Stewart learned to play when bought his first guitar was "Takes a worried man to sing a worried song" [Wikipedia] -- just like the rest of us of about that age!

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