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Tune Req: Smiling Little Lass (W. Owen Roe/Foggy?)

GUEST,Cori S. 28 Oct 14 - 05:27 PM
GUEST,Cori S. 28 Oct 14 - 06:32 PM
GUEST,leeneia 29 Oct 14 - 09:55 AM
GUEST,leeneia 29 Oct 14 - 10:05 AM
Joe Offer 29 Oct 14 - 06:45 PM
GUEST 29 Oct 14 - 10:30 PM
GUEST,leeneia 30 Oct 14 - 08:22 AM
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Subject: Tune Req: Smiling Little Lass (W. Owen Roe/Foggy?)
From: GUEST,Cori S.
Date: 28 Oct 14 - 05:27 PM

Hey, does anyone have the album "Celtic Voyage" which includes an instrumental titled "Lament For Owen Roe O'Neil / Foggy Dew" by Neal Hellman & Friends? This particular track is not available on You Tube, but other versions of both those tunes are. Thing is, a major part of this is a tune I know as "The Smiling Little Lass," which, after many years of collecting and listening to music, I have heard only ONCE, in a songbook of my mom's. The other two tunes in the title are ENTIRELY different! If you sign in to one of these services which play music based on your likes (I heard it on Pandora), you might get to listen, but places that sell it give only a 30-second snip and the part that I know as "The Smiling Little Lass" doesn't come in till about 1:46. Just wondered if anyone knew this tune by any name and why it might have been identified under the titles of these other two tunes which are completely different (although the Lament has similarities.) I do have a PDF of the songbook page but I don't see any way to post it here.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Smiling Little Lass (W. Owen Roe/Foggy?)
From: GUEST,Cori S.
Date: 28 Oct 14 - 06:32 PM

Okay, since the PDF format is useless, I scanned it as a jpeg and put it in a Facebook album and here it is. It just says "Irish Folk Tune." https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205270940638266&set=a.10204636364014247.1073741848.1389548514&type=3&theater


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Smiling Little Lass (W. Owen Roe/Foggy?)
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Oct 14 - 09:55 AM

Hi, Cori. I played the tune you posted on Facebook, and I know I've heard it before. However, I found 'The Lament for Owen Roe O'Neill' at the site called The Session, and their version is nothing like it.

Here's what I think happened: I think Ethel Crowninshield wrote a poem called 'Smiling Little Lass', and somebody came along, read the poem, and said, "Hey, you could sing this to the old tune 'Such-and-such!'"

I'll make a MIDI of your tune so people can hear it, and perhaps a Mudcatter can identify it.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Smiling Little Lass (W. Owen Roe/Foggy?)
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Oct 14 - 10:05 AM

I've sent the tune in. check back from time to time, because if Joe is away, it can take a while for a song to be posted.

At other times, it's virtually instantaneous.

Click to play (joeweb)


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Smiling Little Lass (W. Owen Roe/Foggy?)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Oct 14 - 06:45 PM

MIDI posted. See link above. Sorry for the delay, Leeneia. I was hosting a rather wild party for some rather wild five-year-olds. Whew!
-Joe-

P.S. I see three examples of "Lament for Owen Roe O'Neill" on Spotify.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Smiling Little Lass (W. Owen Roe/Foggy?)
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Oct 14 - 10:30 PM

Thanks, you guys. The thing I noticed about the "Lament for Owen Roe O'Neil/O'Neill" is there is an author given with birth and death dates--in other words, it's a definite composition--it might be played in different styles or something, but should be the same tune--which isn't "my" tune. It would have been kind of cool if it was, because I am related to the O'Neils, I think, on my mother's side.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Smiling Little Lass (W. Owen Roe/Foggy?)
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 30 Oct 14 - 08:22 AM

Joe, can you take "Tune Req" off the name of this thread? It's misleading.

I think Cori wants information about the tune used for 'Smiling Little Lass.' She isn't requesting it, because clearly she already has it, witness the jpg.

Congratulations on the party for the five-year-olds. I bet it was fun.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Smiling Little Lass (W. Owen Roe/Foggy?)
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Dec 14 - 06:27 AM

Bumping this up for anyone who may not have seen it before.


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