BS: Need a song or infomercial

Subject: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: olddude
Date: 22 Mar 15 - 07:22 PM

Checking out at walmart, the lady in front of me
Was buying a back fat eliminator bra. I think I now heard it all. We need a song or infomercial.
Que... Hot model in shower, I use to have unsightly back fat until I tried the ronco back fat removal bra.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: olddude
Date: 22 Mar 15 - 07:38 PM

Life is too short to worry about such trival don't ya think we are all what we are and being a good person is all that matters. Companies keep Hocking silly things

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 12:56 AM

Once I had humongous back fat
Rolling and twisting and all like that
Then I found a lovely fat remover bra
Now have the slimmest back you ever saw

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Bert
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 12:58 AM

I don't do fat jokes. I don't do nigger jokes and I don't do slurs of any kind. If that is what you want to do then keep it to your bloody self.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 01:25 AM

Whoa, Bert.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Bert
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 01:33 AM

No Ebbie, anyone who puts down other people because of their personal appearance is just an asshole.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Musket
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 02:24 AM

I do fat jokes. Believe it or not, when telling jokes about thick people I refer to them as Berts.

If being fat stigmatises you, here's a tip. Two hands doesn't mean two donuts.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Musket
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 02:57 AM

One for Bert.

Harry Potter has to be fiction. Whoever heard of a ginger kid with two friends?

I'm not saying she was a big lass but when she asked me if I had taken precautions I said I had strapped a plank across my arse.

I love it when sanctimonious fools get all Righteous. It reminds me that jokes are by definition at someone's expense.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Bert
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 03:38 AM

Musket, I'll say it again just for you.

Anyone who puts down other people because of their personal appearance is just an asshole.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Bert
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 03:39 AM

And of course assholes don't know the difference between sanctimonious and kind.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Musket
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 06:24 AM

I can't be an asshole on account of not being a foreigner.

Arsehole, yes. Guilty as charged.

Back on post. If you are fat, it is your choice. Period.

As my mate said quietly when another mate walked in the pub with his new girlfriend of the sort that successfully dodges salads. "Christ. I bet she can shit!"

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Megan L
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 08:41 AM

Of course some folk have fat on their body, some however have it in place of a brain.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: olddude
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 10:39 AM

Missed my point Bert.. Companies will make anything to sell and construct a new problem to market a phantom issue

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: olddude
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 11:00 AM

Only thing we are picking on is the next new non problem companies will have a solution to hock

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 11:39 AM

I knew that was olddude's subject- not fat *people* but *fat* as a symptom of today's world. There is a difference, Bert. A big difference. Fat lot of good it does to point it out. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: olddude
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 11:41 AM

No worries ebbie you did nothing wrong and everyone who knows you like we all do are aware of it.. Geeze some people as so political

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Bert
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 03:58 PM

...Back on post. If you are fat, it is your choice. Period...

You need to get educated.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: GUEST,McMusket
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 07:31 PM

I did. I'm a public health doctor who lectures medical students and post grad junior doctors.

Like I said. Being fat is a choice. Live with it. You are the one bringing the word "nigger" into it.

Get educated.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 03:59 AM

I love it when sanctimonious fools get all Righteous. It reminds me that jokes are by definition at someone's expense.

Being fat may be a choice but being ginger isn't, yet that is one of the jokes you chose for Bert.

How are you with homophobic jokes?

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 04:39 AM

Most of us feel sated when we have eaten sufficient.
It would make us sick if we forced more down.
As with all body functions, this balance does not work for many people.
They feel hungry when they should not.
That is why they resort to surgery and gastric bands.
It is cruel to ridicule people for something they never asked for and wish they could change.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 07:56 AM

A woman with bulging, fat back
Thought her bra had put her back on track
But the mass had slipped down
And she saw with a frown
That her thighs, hips and bum had gone slack

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 08:46 AM

Do you mock all people with eating disorders?
Those with anorexia?

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 08:52 AM

Poetic licence in my case, Keith, poetic licence.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Musket
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 09:07 AM

Homophobic jokes? Well, there's Akenaton for starters.

I know lots of gay jokes though. I went out with a few of them before meeting my future husband. (Who is a ginger minger by the way)

Prat

Perhaps Keith's simplistic inaccurate portrayal of fat might be enhanced by pointing out how many fat people they liberated at Belson. Obesity is the morbidity bomb that faces society. Normalising it just serves to give fat people shorter lives with decreased quality.

Like I said. Two hands doesn't mean two donuts.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 09:40 AM

Oh, get real, y'all.

1. Everybody who's been on the Mudcat any length of time knows that olddude is a nice guy.

2. This is a music site, and there are quite a few poets skulking in the shadows. Olddude was not mocking anybody, he was simply taken with the sound of 'fat back bra.' As who wouldn't be?

3. I'm fat but I'll get in the swing.

Fat-back bra with a big back brace -
put the plumpness in its place!
What a great stunt -
shove it to the front!
Fat-back bra with a big back brace!
============
Isn't that what you had in mind, Dan?

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: olddude
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 01:19 PM

Leeniea
Thank you if folks don't know my heart by now they never will.
Love Dan

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 01:22 PM

Prat

Musket, who was that aimed at?

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Bert
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 02:40 PM

a public health doctor who has never heard of

Hypothyroidism.
Cushing's syndrome.
Depression.
Pregnancy.
Lack of sleep.
Prader-Willi syndrome,
Genetics
polycystic ovary syndrome
steroids
Bardet-Biedl syndrome

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Ed T
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 03:53 PM

I was checking out ladies in front of me
In aisles stacked with bras and langerie
Suddenly, I became aware
Of the reason I was there
Dude, it's Walmart
Not, Victoria's Secret

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 09:45 PM

.Back on post. If you are fat, it is your choice. Period..." Bert

Obviously you don't get it, Bert. That statement is far more hurtful than humo(u)r.

"A woman with bulging, fat back
Thought her bra had put her back on track
But the mass had slipped down
And she saw with a frown
That her thighs, hips and bum had gone slack" Steve Shaw

I like that. And it works just as well for a man. Ever hear of a 'manbra'?

"Fat-back bra with a big back brace -
put the plumpness in its place!
What a great stunt -
shove it to the front!
Fat-back bra with a big back brace!" leenia

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Musket
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 02:35 AM

Two of the conditions Bert mentions are rare. They are also the only two that could by any stretch of the imagination lead to weight gain that cannot be regulated, and then the situation is debatable.

Depression, the main culprit, can lead to weight gain through many situations but the route is the same. Eat and drink too much without working it off.

Period. Anything else is pharmaceutical attempts to medicalise lifestyle. Aided and abetted by GPs failing to grasp the nettle when people present through their own fault. If they try to educate they are nanny state, if they don't, people die younger with lower quality of life.

Doug. I meant you. You asked a gay man if he was homophobic despite nothing whatsoever being mentioned on the subject in this thread hitherto. A gay man with a ginger husband. You couldn't possibly give a better example of your comments being by a prat.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 03:16 AM

Doug. I meant you.

I didn't ask if you were homophobic. I was asking if your tolerance of jokes at other people's expense stretched to something closer to home. I couldn't possibly give a better example than Clan Musket of sanctimonious fools who get all Righteous.


.Back on post. If you are fat, it is your choice. Period..." Bert

Obviously you don't get it, Bert. That statement is far more hurtful than humo(u)r.

Ebbie, that wasn't Bert. That was the ever so funny Musket.


DC

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Musket
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 06:33 AM

I / we / Gaiai would never type "humo(u)r". Are your sure you are quoting Musket? We don't do foreign languages. Being British, we get round language barriers by repeating again in English but slower and louder.

That said. Being fat is a choice. Saying otherwise is shallow ignorance.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 06:44 AM

Very few people choose to be obese.
None really.
The obesity epidemic in Western countries results from a lifestyle conducive to to it.
Fat people are not all fools to be mocked and ridiculed.
Western culture gives people a lifestyle that makes many obese.

As you so intelligently pointed out Musket, concentration camp culture results in people being underweight.
Again, hardly a "choice."

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 06:55 AM

Cor, blimey, the po-faced are out in force! I feel another limerick coming on (you'll have to wait until Mrs Steve goes out so she won't see me time-wasting...). :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 07:03 AM

I / we / Gaiai would never type "humo(u)r". Are your sure you are quoting Musket?


From: Musket - PM
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 06:24 AM
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Back on post. If you are fat, it is your choice. Period.
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From: Bert - PM
Date: 23 Mar 15 - 03:58 PM
(Responding to Musket)
...Back on post. If you are fat, it is your choice. Period...

You need to get educated.


From: Ebbie - PM
Date: 24 Mar 15 - 09:45 PM
(mistakenly taking Bert to task)
.Back on post. If you are fat, it is your choice. Period..." Bert

Obviously you don't get it, Bert. That statement is far more hurtful than humo(u)r.


DC

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 11:02 AM

You're right. That was Musket. Bert was quoting one of him. (That's with a smile- I rather enjoy the trinity.)

Of course, being fat is usually a choice. I am fat. At this age and stage of my life I choose not to subsist on lettuce leaves and celery sticks.

But being fat is not the subject of this thread- laughing at it and laughing at people trying to make a buck out of it comes closer.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 01:25 PM

You're not fat, Ebbie. You simply enjoy large bone structure.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Ed T
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 01:49 PM

A few years ago, on a vacation in Dominican Republic, I witnessed a hotel bar-keep rub the belly of a middle aged British man. He said, "you rich"? The startled Brit replied, "no, why do you ask?" "You have a big belly, you must be rich to eat so much", was the Dominican guys response.:)

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 02:37 PM

Steve, if I were six or so inches taller I'd be just marvelous. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: olddude
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 02:47 PM

Next it will be the ronco penis color system. Que couple on couch... Our sex life was boring until we discovered the ronco willy coloring system. My wife loves the florescent orange
And yours will to. All for 19.99 but wait act now and we will send you two.. Pay only shipping and handling

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 02:54 PM

I quite like green.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 15 - 04:43 PM

Pay for handling? The mind boggles...

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
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Date: 26 Mar 15 - 07:37 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
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Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Mar 15 - 06:52 PM

Tasteless. To say the least.

Subject: RE: BS: Need a song or infomercial
From: Musket
Date: 27 Mar 15 - 03:03 AM

Keith A Hole of Hertford is almost correct for once. You do not choose to be fat. You do however choose the factors that lead to being fat. Eating too much of the wrong things with less exercise the diet requires.

The Belson comparison is embedded in NICE guidelines for bariatric treatment by the way. My good friend Musket knows more about the guidelines than I do as he sees patients. I don't.

I am not exactly thin myself and weigh 17 stone, although being 6'3", that isn't morbidly obese. Yes, I do know that my love of beer means 38" trousers. Yes I should lose a bit and don't. Yes I am aware that losing it isn't as easy as you might think.

But the comments of the medical profession that I am articulating still stand. Obesity is a time bomb and we could do more about it. Not just us personally but the food industry and the politicians they influence too.

I am delighted to see the commons health select committee have at last started questioning hospitals whose retail contracts have led to junk food outlets in hospitals. NHS making money out of guaranteeing future costs whilst NHS spends a few millions on health promotion.

My other good friend Musket when a PCT chair (and I worked for them as a public health registrar at the time) wrote to the chairman of our local acute trust asking if, given they claim they cannot prevent fast food outlets because they contract retail through a company, how they would react if their contractor put a cigarette machine in the foyer, and what gives them the right to decide what part of health promotion they feel obliged to uphold and which not to.

I still refer to his letter in a lecture I give on clinical responsibility.