Goodbye good old Mudcat

Subject: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: skarpi
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 04:29 PM

Well I guess everything has it´s time , I have been in here since I thing 1996 , met a lot of people , and made some good friends ship with people around the Globe , I went to Getaway 2005 ten years ago , been in and out of North Ireland since the year 2000 , went to Scotland , Norway Holland and Greece , This time has been great but now it´s time to move on with my live , I have asked Max to delete everything about me out of Mudcat , and soon I will leave facebook as well .

I have learned a lot about music and still am learning , both for folk and now on my electrical guitar , just today I wrote two new songs , still at it ..another cd who knows ..

all the best to you all
Skarphéðinn Haraldsson -Skarpi Iceland .

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 04:33 PM

Deleting your contents will leave huge gaps in conversations, especially the ones you started, Skarpi!

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 05:05 PM

The big question, Skarpi, is why? Fair enough, your are too busy now or there is some other reason, but

I have asked Max to delete everything about me out of Mudcat , and soon I will leave facebook as well .

Just seems to be too precious. Sorry, but either just leave or don't make a big thing of it.

Hope you stay, but if you don't just go quietly.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 05:25 PM

Why do people say they want to leave but try to make it someone else's responsibility?
It's as if they want to slam a door. You can slam it, but it's not gonna lock. Come back or don't, it's up to you.

I know it's not what it was, and it never will be like that again. If there's nothing here the way it is now that interests you, I can understand not coming here. Complaining about someone else leaving doesn't' make any more sense than complaining about what's here. Everything that is, just is, and we can't do anything about other people.

Skarpi, it was nice meeting you, and I wish you all good things.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 05:27 PM

Jeri - Like :-)

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 05:34 PM

You can't expect a forum to delete all the stuff you've posted. If you don't want to be associated any more with stuff you've posted, change your username to something different and unrecognisable, then leave.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 05:37 PM

Hi, Skarpi -
The one Getaway I missed since 1999 was in 2005, the year you attended. I'm sorry I never got to meet you.

If you choose to leave Mudcat, it's unfair to give Mudcat the burden of having to delete any sign that you've been here. If you posted something, why should somebody else be obliged to clean it up? We do honor requests to delete phone numbers and e-mail addresses and other personal information from messages that are viewable by the public, but we generally do not delete messages once they're posted unless they're likely to cause harm to someone.

There have been many times that I have deleted three or four messages at someone's request, but even that is a lot of work. Of course, the final decision on that is up to Max.

And yes, another solution is simply to change the user name. That's an easy thing to do. Just e-mail the registrar and ask [[e-mail]].

I wish you all the best, Skarpi.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 05:46 PM

but try to make it someone else's responsibility?   

me leaving Mudcat is no ones fault Okei :) ...

I love you all ....believe that you may ...

and if Max don´t want too delete me off , then I respect that . :)
he is the boss .

all the best again ....
And Joe who knows ...it may well be soon ....

Skarpi Iceland .

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 06:05 PM

I left Mudcat a couple of years ago, because it was taken over by shitheads (not you, Joe&Max, nor Gnome nor Shaw nor Happy nor Skarpi nor a few dozen others, but including a significant proportion of the posters remaining regularly).

I remember the good times (I've archived a great lump of Campsite at Drumcree), and Max and Joe, thank you beyond thanking. But what remains is mostly past its sell by date. It's either tasteless or it stinks. So I can sympathise a bit with Skarpi.

But, quod scripsi, scripsi. You were happy enouh to write it at the time; you've had years to countermand it if you wanted to; you didn't.

Stet.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 06:23 PM

The truth, which comes clear over the years, is that one does not really leave Mudcat-one can stop posting, one can even die, but our contributions remain--and even, in the rare cases when posts are removed(as Skarpi has asked), the responses remain--and beyond that, the ideas, the music, and the love behind it all carry on with fellow Mudcatters..

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: olddude
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 06:27 PM

Skarpi if you are leaving to leave God bless andstay wwell, if there is something going on like depression or any other issues, you have friends who care deeply so don't be afraid to talk. Everyone gets dinky dow at times. Stay well my friend

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: olddude
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 06:58 PM

Somebody who knows him check on him he doesn't sound like Skarpi. Make sure he is Ok

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,maryrrf
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 07:07 PM

Hi Skarpi,

I don't post much anymore on Mudcat either, but I still do look in. I hope everything is okay with you. Please do still stay in touch, at least on Facebook. I sent you a friend request!

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 08:23 PM

Don't Panic....the ship is not stinking.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

when peculiar, double etc, began to appear....research revealed that \

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,#
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 08:33 PM

There are presently three 'goodbye' threads. This and

BS: on leaving mudcat        

BS: Off to the future

Wassa chances of them being combined in the BS section?

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: maeve
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 11:07 PM

I am in touch with Skarpi.

Maeve

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Janie
Date: 02 Apr 15 - 11:28 PM

All the best to those who leave and those who stay, and wondering when this will be moved below the line where it belongs, as it is not a thread related to music or folklore.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: mg
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 02:37 AM

i am baffled by how hostile the responses are to someone just saying goodbye....someone who has been polite and informative. i don't get it but goodbye and maybe i will take one of those cheap flights to ireland via iceland....check your pms before you are totally gone.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Megan L
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 03:09 AM

Alas MG such has mudcat become.

I met Skarpi when he came to Scotland, such a gentle kind man with a lovely voice and beautiful playing style.

My mother used to teach me if you couldn't find something nice to say then say nothing, sadly the anonymity of the internet allows some people to express themselves in a manner that would either get them punched or arrested if they behaved like that on the street.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 03:15 AM

I don't understand the hostility either. I have left a few forums over time and felt a strong urge to have all content purged when I did so.

I look on forum posts as conversations, their relevance is in the moment you have them and there's no need to have them recorded for eternity and sometimes a point is reached where you want them to disappear.

Forums allow you to post content, the content will be forever yours, forums don't own what you say. Posts are owned by the poster (if you want to take a legalistic approach). If a poster wants the content removed, it's not for the forum to object. I understand it's hassle, it leaves gaps in threads but at the end of the day, that is part of the deal and moderators or forum owners should respect that.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 03:35 AM

Wait, wait, wait....

Forums allow you to post content, the content will be forever yours, forums don't own what you say. Posts are owned by the poster (if you want to take a legalistic approach). If a poster wants the content removed, it's not for the forum to object. I understand it's hassle, it leaves gaps in threads but at the end of the day, that is part of the deal and moderators or forum owners should respect that.

That all sounds very nice, but where and by whom has that been decreed? Why is it that the burden of responsibility is on the Website? Is all this covered under parts I haven't read of the Sonny Bono Copyright Act? Seems to me that if you post something, it's gone, and you no longer have control of it.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat.
From: GUEST,DaveRo
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 04:02 AM

GUEST wrote: Forums allow you to post content, the content will be forever yours.....

That's not generally true. Many forums specifically require you to cede copyright of your posts as a condition of membership.

Don't know about mudcat, and of course you can post as a guest. But I've never known a forum that allows a member to demand removal of posts.

(Good luck Skarpi, BTW. Loved Iceland - apart from the midges!)

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 04:20 AM

What Stilly said. What Jeri said. What Joe said.

What Bonnie said: WHY?? Why do you want to erase all traces of yourself from here, and take your past with you? Who you were is part of who you are. Can't you just disappear (if you must) and leave your history intact?

I know a lot of people dislike these I'm-leaving threads, though I don't. I'm usually glad for the chance to say goodbye. (And if it's somebody I want to see the back of - which isn't you - then I just keep quiet and rejoice offline.)

But I am utterly baffled by this. I don't have any hostility, but I can understand those who do, because it sure does feel like a slap in the face. Not personally, of course, but as part of a community we've all contributed to and benefitted from.

I also think it's fair for the past posts to remain. Once you contribute to Mudcat, it becomes part of Mudcat.

I do wish you all the best in your new life, but please don't let it negate the old one!

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,Blandiver (Astray)
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 04:59 AM

Leave nothing but photographs, take nothing but footprints.

Maybe Skarpi feels that he is now folk-unmutual with his electrical guitar? But it's a strange old pot - at a session once, I was scolded for accompanying an old ballad with an Icelandic langspil by a self-appointed purist with an acoustic bass guitar, the only acoustic instrument (AFAIA) derived from an electrical one. I see a lot of that in the folk world - self-appointed purists who know nothing at all, because, if they did, they'd realise that everything is authentic by dint of its corporeality. Hopefully things are different in Iceland, but, saving Bjork and Bjarnfreðarson (and my old langspil), I know precious little about it.

Let's hope so, huh?

Otherwise, I've seen a lot of offence being taken on Mudcat, but none ever being given; I see a lot of colourful language and heated exchange, but I take that as a sign of life in a virtual realm without life. The only thing that gets me here are the Moderators, much less the cringing deference to same which is something I don't see too much of in the real world. Happily real life doesn't have Moderators or mysteriously appointed Number 2s like Silly River Stage and Joe Offer. In fact the worst I've eve had here was a PM from the latter telling me I disgusted him for daring to defend another man's right to all me a c*nt as part of an exchange that settled itself rather quite amicably, as these things do. In the real world anyway.

Anyhoo - here's some electrical guitar of my own. I did this just the other day by way of the season, a response to feeling the sap rise rather & giving thanks for each day that comes in increasing awareness of the brevity of it all.

VERNAL RAGA (March 30th, 2015)

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 04:59 AM

Part of the moral deal (to hell with copyright and regulations) when you sign up to a forum is that your posts form integral parts of discussions. To remove them would make a nonsense of threads. If you agree that that shouldn't happen, you should be happy to let your posts stand. If you don't, you shouldn't use that forum. As said, you can always change your username to something unrecognisable, then leave. If someone leaves/gets booted off The Session, their posts remain but their name is replaced by #. On Chiff and Fipple, your posts remain under your name. I wouldn't mind betting that these things could be negotiated. But it ain't right to ask for all your posts to be deleted.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 05:19 AM

Alas MG such has mudcat become

You only have to take a look at the BS: on leaving mudcat thread to realise that Mudcat hasn't "become" anything. It was always thus. People have been announcing their departure, because of perceived bigotry and abuse, almost as long as Mudcat has existed. If Mudcat still exists in 15 years time, I feel sure that the same old arguments will be being re-hashed and we will be looking back to today as the Golden Age.

DC

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 05:31 AM

I forgot to add:

Goodbye Skarpi and good luck. Thanks for playing host to our Icelandic Mudcat gathering. I have fond memories of that weekend and of meeting you in Scotland.

DC

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Musket
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 05:47 AM

Joe points out that copyright resides with the author, and there is a disclaimer to that effect at the bottom of the page. It is legally sound in most countries, through certain conventions, and there you go.

However, the owner of the hosting webpage does have responsibilities under their own country laws to moderate and posters have responsibilities under their own country laws to post legally. You post in your country, under your country's adherence to copyright, ownership of material etc.

US law is irrelevant to UK posters and UK law is irrelevant to US posters. Icelandic law is often the subject of jokes on UK television.

It does, as Steve points out, make it important that you think before posting. One joker on here seems to think Scottish law doesn't apply to what he posts because it is an American hosted website.

Ignorance is not an excuse, although I'll accept in his case it is a common factor.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 05:54 AM

"The moving hand once having writ moves on. Nor all thy piety nor wit can lure it back to cancel half a line."


Mr Ice Guy.....of course it is time to more on...

You are entering the the most beautiful days of spring and summer. It would be sacrilege to not celebrate them.

However, when the nights grow long and the wind howls like a wolf at your door ... please drop by again and share warm times with kindred spirits.

A Blast From Your Past

From: skarpi
Date: 22 Jul 99 - 04:44 PM

dear Max, as I said to shambles I do not know what all this is about, why are they leaving mudcat???????

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

   Though Times don't last....though people do." (Robert Schuller deceased)
Hope they stay, all the best from me In Iceland. skarpi Iceland

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: maeve
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 06:00 AM

olddude and others who were concerned- Skarpi is OK and merely planning to depart from his computer-based activities, at least for a time. He has already said he understands if his posts cannot be removed. He's faced a fair many challenges in life as well as here, and will be fine. He stopped in to Mudcat because he cares about people here and knows many care about him as well.

Maeve

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 06:38 AM

Hope we may see him back some fine fair day. All best wishes to him.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Lighter
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 08:21 AM

We loved Iceland. The scenery was terrific and the people were great. Sorry we didn't get to meet you, Skarpi. Best wishes from the USA!

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 08:27 AM

And I too wish Skarpi nothing but the best. He and his deserve it! I only wish that I had a copy of his CD.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 08:55 AM

Sometimes it's as simple as PMs here not being batch-sendable, and just wanting to say something nice to more folks than one has time to PM individually.

All the best, Skarpi.
.
~S~

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 02:51 PM

Not even the good-bye threads are what they used to be. I think I'll leave ...

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 04:28 PM

Here is a riddle,what has been around for thousands of years, but is only a month old?

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: gnu
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 04:48 PM

I am sad. Goodbye good friend and, thanks.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Joe_F
Date: 03 Apr 15 - 07:42 PM

Nescit vox emissa reverti. (The voice sent out does not know how to turn back.) -- Horace

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 04:01 AM

it would be nice to edit eality. go back and remove all the nasty shitty things we did.

maybe add a couple of really nasty shitty things to hurt the people who got away with hurting you.

the thing is we should have made a better attempt at life -first time round.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,Twitcher's Delight.
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 10:51 AM

Skarpi is a good friend of mine. Don't give him any of that holier than thou shit!

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 12:42 PM

Hey Skarpi,

Whatever you do, get my e-mail from me before you vanish, so that we can keep in touch somehow. I'm wishing you the best, whatever you do.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: maeve
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 01:00 PM

I suggest friends either leave word for Skarpi in his PMs (if he has any time or inclination to check there), or if you prefer I'm in contact and can pass along messages if you want to let me know by PM.

Maeve

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 01:37 PM

Skarpi is a good friend of mine. Don't give him any of that holier than thou shit!

Hello, GUEST,Twitcher's Delight.

Nobody has done that, have they?

Piss off.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Ed T
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 02:58 PM

Hundreds of thousands of years from now (aka 3000 tonsome) some researcher will be trying to decipher Mudcat, its messages, the community etc for meaning and will exclaim, WTF?

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Claymore
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 06:43 PM

This is my first post to the Mudcat in about ten years. I'm sorry Skarpi has decided to leave but it is the same conundrum I faced when I got out of the VA hospital in 2012. I had just missed being offed by Pancreatic cancer, but that organ literally blew up and scattered the necrotic cancer throughout my body, but it did not metastasize. Thus, the gook in the 'Nam who shot me eventually saved my life. It was at that point that I wrote Joe Offer telling him that my view of the written kerfuffle's in the Mudcat were akin to the proverbial tempest in the teapot. I also discovered that while every person who subscribes to the Mudcat (as I have since 1998) good people come and go, while the assholes accumulate... generally because they do not have the intellect to consider the world from any other viewpoint but their own.

I realized that my world is much larger than the 3"x7" Reply to Thread box, and those who willfully stew in their venom remind me of the old joke about the difference in political parties. It goes that if a man was drowning 50 feet from shore, the liberals would throw him 50 feet of rope with both ends. The conservatives would throw him 25 feet of rope and demand that he swim the other half. My own view is I would take 60 feet of rope, throw him 50 feet and tie the extra ten feet to a large rock. If, after several minutes he was making no progress, I would throw him the rock...

I do miss some of the contributors such as Rick Fielding, DougR, Terribus, Little Hawk, LR Mole and a few others. But to those trying to date the alleged demise of the Mudcat, I would suggest that the music died when Rick passed away. Joe had to divide the Musical threads from the ones labeled BS. Those who had legitimate folk music chops were buried by poseurs whose vituperation was presented as edification. But I still believe that, as the Chinese proverb says, "If you live long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float under the bridge".

I was the only Marine Corps Lieutenant drafted in late '67 as a college sophomore, who went through all of the enlisted training at Parris Island then was commissioned from the ranks, going to the Nam as a LT in '69. I was also the only Marine in the Nam with an autoharp (which was kept in the "Rear with the Gear", along with a banjo and a guitar). I do believe I was the probably the only Marine Officer to sing "Draft Dodger Rag", while under shelling at Con Thien, who then conducted a wire sweep with my platoon, killing some 20 of the NVA. Go Figure!

In any case I will, after many years, try to use the Mudcat for it's original purpose, and start a thread about the existence of any jams/sessions in the Winston-Salem and Outer Banks areas of North Carolina. My oldest grandson is playing several of my better guitars and I wish to see him complete a short list of my Grandfather wishes. I realize at this point I have limited input into his life choices, but he knows I have several goals for him. That would be to use a magnetic compass to find his way in the dark, put ten shots into a three inch group at 50 yards, beat me at chess, and play a musical instrument. He has achieved the first two, is working on flute and guitar, and will win $200 dollars the day he check-mates me.

I feel sorry for Joe and Max in that, at some point each day, they have to stare at the shower drain-hole and wonder how much can be scrubbed off. But they persevere, leaving small specks of musical life across the barren landscape. If, as some have indicated above, there is an examination of the inputs into the Mudcat in some future world, I suspect that they will be wise enough to know that much of the musical life they planted still exists because assholes do make the best fertilizer...

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: maeve
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 07:04 PM

Welcome back, Claymore. Viva la musica!

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 07:17 PM

I think there are ten or twenty people here at Mudcat who are more-or-less universally beloved. Skarpi is toward the top of that list.
I don't think you realize how much people here like, you, Skarpi.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: gnu
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 07:29 PM

Claymore... thanks.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Ed T
Date: 04 Apr 15 - 07:58 PM

""The world is not full of assholes- they are strategically placed so that you'll come across a few every day, wherever you go."" Unknown source

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Mooh
Date: 26 May 15 - 11:35 AM

I've missed you Skarpi, on Facebook and here. If you do see this, I wish you well, you're one of the good ones.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 26 May 15 - 03:34 PM

I missed this when it first appeared. Skarpi you will be missed here. I have appreciated your comments, insight, and perspective. I would like to have heard some of your music and hope that will still be part of your life.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 26 May 15 - 04:29 PM

Each time I see a Skarpi thread surface, I hope it's him, returning.

And wish him well, whether it is or not.

And keep fingers crossed that we may see him again.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 26 May 15 - 10:00 PM

Missed the post from Claymore last month--glad to know you're still with us, and you're still pickin' clean and shootin' straight;-)

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,AllisonA (Animaterra)
Date: 27 May 15 - 08:55 AM

Goodbye for now, dear Skarpi! Enjoy your life, enjoy your music.

Maeve, thanks for the suggestion. I'm hardly here much any more, but will be in touch with you soon.

Mudcat, after all these years, I still love you.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Amos
Date: 27 May 15 - 12:30 PM

Bravo to Claymore for that heartfelt wisdom.

Skarpi, go forth into the analog universe knowing that the abiding affections of hundreds of Mudcatters goes along as the wind at your back. May it bring you over to the Getaway very soon, and may you flourish in your home soil in the meanwhile.

Abrazos, my friend,

A

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: GUEST,SussexCarole
Date: 27 May 15 - 02:47 PM

Hope you'll keep in contact with me & Andrew Skarpi. You have our e mail and there's always a contact through our website. We all have to thank Mudcat for so many friendships (and a marriage in my case).
xxx

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Thompson
Date: 27 May 15 - 06:30 PM

Skarpi - enjoy your computer-free life, you'll have a lot more time and a lot better pacing for the things you really want to do.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 May 15 - 06:37 PM

while the assholes accumulate... generally because they do not have the intellect to consider the world from any other viewpoint but their own.

Fascinating. Those who would bother to check his old postings would note that Mr. Anti-Personnel Mine is describing himself.

"Gook"? Please.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: kendall
Date: 27 May 15 - 07:56 PM

I'm not about to preach, but I will say, many of us want to see you back at another Getaway. I really like your singing.

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 May 15 - 08:03 PM

Will there be any gooks in the audience, Kendall?

Subject: RE: Goodbye good old Mudcat
From: Thompson
Date: 28 May 15 - 02:29 AM

An appropriate song sung by Skarpi and friends.