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DTStudy: Caledonia DigiTrad: CALEDONIA CANADEE-I-O |
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Subject: DTStudy: Caledonia From: Joe Offer Date: 18 Jul 15 - 02:45 AM Please folks, this thread has nothing to do with Dougie MacLean, although I really like his song. And it's not the Burns song, either. This is an edited DTStudy thread, and all messages posted here are subject to editing and deletion. This thread is intended to serve as a forum for corrections and annotations for the Digital Tradition song named in the title of this thread. Search for other DTStudy threadsI came across this song on a recording by Emily Smith, and it turns out the song is in the Digital Tradition. Here are the DT lyrics: CALEDONIA Twa Scottish women sat down to sigh and mourn, By cam' a troop o' their ain countrymen, Says, "Rise ye up, my bonnie lass, mak' haste and come awa' There's a vessel lying and bound for Caledonia Oh, says the sailor, are ye willing for to pay, Five hundred guineas before on board ye go, But ye must pay them plack and farthin' before on board ye go, And we'll take ye to yer bonnie Caledonia. Oh, says the lassie, I'm willing for to pay, Five hundred guineas before on board I go, I'II pay them plack and farthin' before on board I go, If ye take me to my pretty Caledonia. Oh, said the sailor, her money we will take, And when she's on seas we'll throw her over deck, Or We'll sell her for a slave lang or she win there ava, And she'll never see her pretty Caledonia. Oh, says the captain, that would never do, There are no slaves sold intil our country noo, They wad kill us every man, they wad hang us ane and a' If we offered a slave for sale in Caledonia. They've sailed east and they've sailed west, And they've sailed past many a seaport town, The seas they did beat and the winds they did blaw, And it's caused them a' to weep for Caledonia. One night as the captain he lay upon his bed, He dreamed a dream that something to him said-, Tak' care o' yon bonnie lass that ye brocht awa For she's caused ye a' to weep for Caledonia. The captain away to the sailor he's gone, Says, Where is yon bonnie lass that ye brought far fae home? Where is yon bonnie lass that ye brought far awa? For she's caused us a' to weep for Caledonia. O, says the sailor, she's lying very low, She lies bound hand and foot ready over deck to throw, She lies bound hand and foot ready over deck to throw, And she'll never see her pretty Caledonia. O The captain away to this fair maid is gone, Says, What is the reason that ye lie here so long? For what is the reason that ye lie here ava? For ye've paid your passage dear for Caledonia. Oh, says the lassie, ah wae's me, 'It ever I wis born sic hardships for to see, But he'll hae got a sweetheart he likes better far than me, And it causes me to weep for Caledonia. Oh, says the captain, if a promise ye will make, That when we go to land then upon me you will wait, If I wad spare your life and let naebody know, Ye'll maybe see your pretty Caledonia. Oh, says the lassie, a promise I will make, That when we go to land then upon you I will wait, If ye will spare my life and let naebody know, And we'll maybe see oor pretty Caledonia. The captain away to the sailor he's gone He's ta'en him by the neck and 'im overdeck he's thrown Says, Tak' this cup of caul watter, though the liquor be but sma' And drink your lassie's health in Caledonia. They've sailed east and they've sailed west, They've sailed past many a seaport town, The seas they did beat and the win's they did blaw, And they've a' safe arrived at Caledonia. They hidna been there but three-quarters O' a year, When in fine silks and satins he's made her for to wear, When in fine silks and satins he's made her for to go, And she lives the captain's lady in Caledonia. From The DT #378 @Scottish @sailor @trick filename[ CALDONIA TUNE FILE: CALDONIA CLICK TO PLAY TUNE FILE: CALDONIA.2 CLICK TO PLAY RG
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CANADEE-I-O It's of a gallant lady, just in the prime of youth. She dearly loved a sailor; in fact, she loved to wed, And how to get to sea with him the way she did not know, All for to see this pretty place called Canadee-I-O. She bargained with a sailor all for a purse of gold, And straightway he had taken her right down into the hold, 'I'll dress you up in sailor suit; your colors shall be blue And you soon will see that pretty place, called Canada When our mate had heard this, he fell into a rage, Likewise our ship's company was willing to engage: 'I'll tie your hands and feet, my love, and overboard you'll go, And you'll never see the pretty place called Canadee-I-O.' And when the captain heard this: "This thing shall never be, For if you drown that fair maid, hanged sure you'll be; I'll take her to my cabin, her colors shall be blue, And she soon will see that pretty place called Canadee-I-O.' They had not arrived in Canada more than the space of half a year, Before the Captain married her, and called her his very dear. She can dress in silk or satin; she caught a gallant show; She was one of the fairest ladies in Canadee-I-0. Come all ye, young ladies, whoever you may be, To be sure and follow your true love, if ever he goes to sea, And if your mate, he do prove false, you're captain he'll prove true, And you'll see the honor I have gained by wearing of the blue DT #378 @sailor @transvestite Printed in Leach Folk Ballads & Songs of the Lower Labrador Coast filename[ CANADIO3 TUNE FILE: CANADIO3 CLICK TO PLAY RG apr96
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Subject: ADD Version: Caledonia From: Joe Offer Date: 18 Jul 15 - 02:53 AM And here's the Emily Smith Version: CALEDONIA Words Traditional, Melody Tony Cuffe, A sailor and his true love Lay doon tae mak their moan When in by came ain o their countrymen Sayin' rise up my bonny lassie Mak haste and come awa There's a vessel lying bound for Caledonia Oh said the sailor, are ye willing for tae pay Five hundred guineas Afore on board ye gay? I'll pay them plack and farthing Afore on board I go If ye'll tak me tae my bonny Caledonia Oh said the sailor her money we will tak And when we're on the sea We'll throw her over deck Or sell her for a slave Lang ere she win ava And she'll never see her bonny Caledonia Well said the captain, well that'll never do For there are nae slaves Sold intae oor country noo They'd hang us ane and a' They would hang us every man If we sold her for a slave to Caledonia Well said the sailor she's lying doon below She's bound hand and foot Ready overboard to throw She's bound hand and foot Ready overboard to throw And she'll never see her bonny Caledonia So the captain away tae the fair maid he has gane Says what is the reason That ye're lying here sae lang An' what is the reason That ye're lying here at all? For you've paid your passage dear tae Caledonia Oh said the lassie, oh woe is me That ever I was born Sic hardships for tae see For the sailors got a lassie He likes better far than me And it causes me to weep for Caledonia So the captain away to the sailor he has gane He's ta'en him by the neck And him overboard has thrown Saying tak this cup o' water Though the liquor be but sma' And drink your lassie's health tae Caledonia They've sailed east and they've sailed west Until they reached the land That they a' loved the best For the winds they did roar And the seas they did beat And they've all arrived safe to Caledonia Well they hadna been there But three quarters o' a year When in fine silks and satins He's made her for tae wear When in fine silks and satins He's made her for tae go Noo she's the captain's wife in Caledonia Noo she's the captain's wife in Caledonia Source: https://www.rxlyrics.com/lyrics/e/emily-smith/caledonia-4c.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpJsSbmcU1Y |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: GUEST,Dave Date: 18 Jul 15 - 04:43 AM These songs have separate entries in the Roud Folk song index (Canadee-i-o is 309, Caledonia is 5543). The tunes of, for instance, Caledonia as sung by Emily Smith and Canadee-i-o as sung by Nic Jones are completely different, though its possible that Nic Jones wrote his own). The lyrics are different, though the plot is only different in respect of the direction of travel across the Atlantic. There is a short discussion of this on mainlynorfolk: https://mainlynorfolk.info/nic.jones/songs/canadeeio.html To confuse matters Caledonia by Dougie MacLean is different and When I first Came to Caledonia sung by Norma Waterson is different again. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: Joe Offer Date: 18 Jul 15 - 03:23 PM Just as with "Caledonia," there are a number of different songs that bear the title "Canadee-i-o". This one, which I posted above, has many things in common with the "Caledonia" that Smith sings. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: Reinhard Date: 18 Jul 15 - 03:56 PM According to the notes on Emily Smith's CD, the tune on her version of Caledonia is by Tony Cuffe of Ossian fame (who incidentally sang Caledonia in 1988 on his solo album "When First I Went to Caledonia"). |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: GUEST,Desi C Date: 20 Jul 15 - 07:07 AM She has a great voice, and I think I prefer that Caledonia to McLean's |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: Tattie Bogle Date: 21 Jul 15 - 04:11 AM Yes, somewhat confusing, as the tune shown above is nothing like the one used by Tony Cuffe and Emily Smith ( Emily's version being somewhat faster and more "funky" rhythmically). And there is a YouTube of Tony Cuffe performing the song in 1988, where he states that the song is not about Caledonia (as in Scotland) but the Caledonian coal mines in Nova Scotia. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: Tattie Bogle Date: 21 Jul 15 - 04:32 AM Self-correction 1 - Tony Cuffe's video is from 1998 not 1988. And this is the same song that Norma Waterson songs, with a slight variation in the title: she sings "came" and Tony sings " went". Correction 2: Emily Smith's Caledonia is a different song entirely from Tony's. But neither song uses the tune shown above |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: Ross Campbell Date: 21 Jul 15 - 06:47 AM Re Tony Cuffe/Norma Waterson "Caledonia" - this is a completely different song from the "Caledonia/Canadee-i-o" song listed above. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: Tattie Bogle Date: 21 Jul 15 - 07:33 PM Have just looked at Tony Cuffe's discography and he does BOTH songs on the album called "When First I Went to Caledonia": "Caledonia" - the one that Joe was talking about, and has been covered by Emily Smith - AND "When First I Went to Caledonia" - the one about the Nova Scotia mines, also sung by Norma Waterson. No wonder it's confusing! Track listing here: Tony Cuffe: When First I Went to Caledonia (Iona Records IR011, 1988) Side One: When First I Went to Caledonia; Miss Wharton Duff (Marshall)/The Mare; The Iron Horse; Caledonia (trad/Cuffe); Dr McInnes' Fancy (Donald Macleod)/Jim Tweedie's Sea Legs (J Allan Macgee) Side Two: The Buchan Turnpike; The Lass O' Patie's Mill; The Weary Pund O' Tow (Burns); Paddy Kelly's/The Humours of Tulla; Otterburn; Scalloway Lasses/Miss Forrester |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: GUEST,Teenylambofgod Date: 13 Nov 15 - 10:54 PM I heard a version of this song on Pandora by Susan Mckeown and I am trying to find the original author of the song, but due to there are at least two songs that have the name Caledonia I am not finding anything with that bit of information. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: Reinhard Date: 14 Nov 15 - 01:44 AM Susan McKeown's Caledonia is on her album "Sweet Liberty" and the song's lyrics are nearly identical to Emily Smith's shown above. So it's a traditional song with no known author. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: Caledonia From: GUEST,Allan Conn Date: 14 Nov 15 - 04:39 AM The Emily Smith song is in the "Ord's Bothy Songs & Ballads" which was published in the 1920s. Lyrics pretty much the same as Smith's version though in his collected version it is two Scottish lovers rather than two Scottish lassies. |
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