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10,000 wax cylinders digitised

Thompson 08 Nov 15 - 10:35 AM
Thompson 08 Nov 15 - 10:49 AM
cnd 08 Nov 15 - 11:02 AM
Jack Campin 08 Nov 15 - 02:33 PM
Steve Gardham 08 Nov 15 - 04:15 PM
Thompson 08 Nov 15 - 06:16 PM
Sandra in Sydney 08 Nov 15 - 06:20 PM
Will Fly 08 Nov 15 - 06:33 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 08 Nov 15 - 11:06 PM
Acme 08 Nov 15 - 11:28 PM
Western Trails 08 Nov 15 - 11:45 PM
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Subject: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Thompson
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 10:35 AM

Free to download too. If you're American, you can adopt one for a tax deductible $60 and have it digitised too.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Thompson
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 10:49 AM

Including a 1913 version of Come Back to Erin which must have been brought home and heard in many Irish homes pre-1916 - unfortunately not yet digitised.

They have various nationality sections, but have weirdly subsumed the few Irish tunes I could find under 'British'. Do they not realise what offence this will cause?


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: cnd
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 11:02 AM

Thanks for sharing! If you want to browse them, you can view it here:

http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/browse.php


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 02:33 PM

They have various nationality sections, but have weirdly subsumed the few Irish tunes I could find under 'British'. Do they not realise what offence this will cause?

I couldn't find many, but the first Irish-connected song I could find was "The dear little shamrock", sung by two Welshmen. (I now know where the tune for "M-hm" came from; thanks).

Trying to avoid causing offence to Irish-Americans is a waste of time.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 04:15 PM

Wow! What a collection!

So far I've found a 1925 recording of the Boston Burglar and a 1928 recording of 'The Old Maid and the Burglar' one of the 'spare part' songs.

But no.275 on the Popular Music to 1901 list is a wonderful 1894 recording of 'Roll the Woodpile Down' accompanied on banjo, described as a coon song. at 339 on the same list is a version of 'I Wish they'd do it now' which is almost word for word a version I recorded over here in Yorkshire in the 60s.

One bit of fun, an interesting version of 'The CLOCK of the North' in strict tempo no doubt.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Thompson
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 06:16 PM

There are millions of Irish tunes and songs in there. Looking up Roll the Woodpile Down now!


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 06:20 PM

what a treasure - I've been looking at the Minstrel playlist as many minstrel shows (African-American & blackface) came to Australia after the Civil War so some of those songs would have been familiar here. Most of the perfromers stayed here.

there are 3 articles about African American performers on the late 19th Century stage in Australia at this link -
Irving Sayles - The black American who became an Australasian vaudeville star.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 06:33 PM

Great resource - thanks for the heads-up - greatly appreciated!


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 11:06 PM

THANK YOU ! ! !

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

We live in wonderful times.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Acme
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 11:28 PM

I concur with Garg. Thank you very much! What a resource.

I work in a university library that is busy digitizing images, but we also have a lot of analog recordings that will be my job to digitize, once they get the equipment to do it. I love looking at what has been done already.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Western Trails
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 11:45 PM

I am glad they are digitizing these, so more people can actually hear them!


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 15 - 01:47 AM

Thank you for that profound insight, Western Trails.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 09 Nov 15 - 02:52 AM

Sorry you guys did not all know about this resource, explicitly (there have been links to recordings in Muscat threads now and then)! -- The digitization of cylinders and 78s, etc was begun 15 or so years ago when I was a PhD student there at UC Santa Barbara. I was called in to identify some Indian (South Asian) records.

More recently, I have found the accordion recordings to be insightful. To hear the things people could do on the old instruments is humbling.

The other great (related) resource at UC Santa Barbara is the English broadside ballad archive. One of its distinguishing features is that the researchers sought (and continue to seek) tunes for the ballads, and they get people to record the ballads sung to the tunes, by way of example. I'm usually hesitant to mention this archive because I sang a number of the ballads for the recordings but, alas, was not in a position to work on the renditions at the time (there was a bit of a press at the time to simply go through quickly and get many recorded) and consequently I'm quite embarrassed about the finished products!
http://ebba.english.ucsb.edu


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Hollowfox
Date: 09 Nov 15 - 09:14 PM

Oooo, too bloody cool! And thanks for the added information, Gibb Sahib. And there's no need to hesitate letting us know about another resource, especially if you worked on it. *g*


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 09 Nov 15 - 09:58 PM

It looks like they've redesigned the website recently, but it's actually been around quite a while.

The first person (I think) who mentioned the website at Mudcat was 12-stringer back in 2006.

By my count, I have already transcribed and posted lyrics of 28 songs from this database. 18 of them were by Harry Lauder.

To see all of the times the web site has been cited or linked-to at Mudcat, put cylinders.library.ucsb.edu into the "Lyrics & Knowledge Search" box.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: michaelr
Date: 10 Nov 15 - 12:27 AM

It's enough to make one Wax poetic.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Thompson
Date: 10 Nov 15 - 02:47 AM

Thanks, Jim Dixon - I came running like a puppy with a ball, never thinking someone else might have found it already!

Was teaching last night and one of my students said there was a similar library of wax cylinders online from Britain, but then my principal called me and I forgot to ask him what and where it was. I'll ask him again - or perhaps someone here knows?


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Thompson
Date: 10 Nov 15 - 02:54 AM

Aha - thousands of Scottish voices, including music http://www.tobarandualchais.co.uk


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 10 Nov 15 - 10:49 AM

Thanks, Thompson.

The site has a new page:

http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/index.php

I found a couple of good whippoorwill songs.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: GUEST,crazy little woman
Date: 10 Nov 15 - 11:16 AM

about that word "British"

Here's a map of the British Isles:

https://www.google.com/search?num=30&espv=2&q=british+isles+map&oq=british+isles+map&gs_l=serp.3..0l10.10534.15135.0.16433.19.14.0.0.0.0.222.1493.0j11j1.12.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..9.10.1284.B4jMuhmETFs

'nuff said?


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Thompson
Date: 10 Nov 15 - 03:06 PM

Ah, here's a map of North America; why don't you call all the Canadian and Mexican music American and see how that goes down?


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 10 Nov 15 - 04:21 PM

When the majority of these cylinder recordings were made the Irish recordings were actually still part of Britain. We can lament that fact but it is a fact.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Thompson
Date: 11 Nov 15 - 03:31 AM

Ssssoooo… writings in America before 1776 should be listed as British on the same logic?

Fascinating video here of a project by University College, Cork with a reporter with a soft Belfast accent describing the process of digitisation of wax cylinders.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Thompson
Date: 11 Nov 15 - 03:44 AM

Here is the University College Cork Henebry O'Neill Collection of digitised recordings, by the way.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 11 Nov 15 - 08:08 AM

thanks to all for posting links to these collections

sandra


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 11 Nov 15 - 09:59 AM

I pinched a link to the collection a day or two ago

Brilliant

Ray


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 11 Nov 15 - 10:03 AM

For Irish music, don't forget the O'Neill cylinders or th cylinders in the on-line playlists at ITMA.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Thompson
Date: 11 Nov 15 - 12:32 PM

And UCC is gradually digitising the whole of the O'Neill and Henebry collection, though as far as I can see it's not searchable.


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 11 Nov 15 - 10:04 PM

I meant the O'Neill cylinders thatwere found in the US, not the ones in UCC : Dunn collection


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Subject: RE: 10,000 wax cylinders digitised
From: Paul Burke
Date: 12 Nov 15 - 05:40 PM

Good stuff when you find it in amongst the dross. And a slap in the face to anyone who purses their lips and squeaks "Irish music is dance music- it must be played slow enough to dance to!". They played much as we do now.


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