Tech: There's one born every minute.

Subject: Tech: There's one born every minute.
From: EBarnacle
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 12:18 PM

Harry Potter and James Bond fans unite. Here's a company which claims to have made a breakthrough to produce an artificial gill for divers. The only problem is that it makes claims beyond the realm of reality.

http://www.electronicproducts.com/Biotech/Wearables/Despite_being_technically_impossible_underwater_breathing_device_receives_830_000_in_crowdsourced_funding.aspx

Subject: RE: Tech: There's one born every minute.
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 03:03 PM

I had a look at this, and from the information given, the device wouldn't deliver enough air/oxygen by any means, so it's surely a scam. Apart from silly people losing sums of money to it, I just hope no-one tries to go underwater with only this thing for breathing. They'd drown.

Subject: RE: Tech: There's one born every minute.
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 07:17 PM

I was wondering if the article was posted on 1st April, tho crowdfunding an April fool's joke is not likely.

I like the sub title on the article
Gadget is being lauded by some, criticized by many

Subject: RE: Tech: There's one born every minute.
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 09:00 PM

If the device works at all, it has nothing to do with "artificial gills". There are small canisters of liquid O² in the thing.

Excerpt from Triton's website:

The artificial gills works with liquid oxygen to produce enough oxygen for a human to breath, the liquid oxygen gets heated to gaseous oxygen.

The liquid oxygen cylinder are right now only one time use cylinders, but we are working to develop refill cylinders.

We are using small liquid oxygen cylinders.
The liquid oxygen cylinders will work for 2 X 45 minutes

Personally, I'd rather not breath pure O² for 45 minutes without a compelling medical need.

Subject: RE: Tech: There's one born every minute.
From: JHW
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 05:14 AM

Triton always made Showers. Must be diversifying...

Subject: RE: Tech: There's one born every minute.
From: Mr Red
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 10:37 AM

I was told that the more oxygen in the air you breath the less breathing you do.
And is not pure oxygen toxic in some way?
Oxidising and cancer are familiar bedfellows.

Subject: RE: Tech: There's one born every minute.
From: BobL
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 03:49 AM

Pure oxygen is used in a "rebreather" apparatus, which recycles exhaled air by topping up the oxygen level. However the only way to store liquid oxygen is cryogenically, and I don't believe today's technology is quite up to making LOx tanks the size of the ones shown.

Like perpetual motion, either a joke, a scam, or an ambition born of hopeless ignorance.

Subject: RE: Tech: There's one born every minute.
From: DMcG
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 04:10 AM

Reminds me of one of the few top class con merchants I ever encountered, back in around 1981. He was claiming a memory storage device in a few cubic inches (roughly the size of a hard drive, but several inches taller). This device has a capacity some 10,000 times that of any current technology and he was taking it round the big electronics companies getting them to bid for the rights. Clearly, if genuine, this was worth a fortune, so I was part of the assessment team.

You had to admire his technique, certainly. He began by talking about a different product they had and used that to ridicule anyone who raised criticisms, thus cowing those most likely to object in the main game. He refused to actually show us one of these but eventually claimed there was one being tested in an MOD site in Farnborough. End of game: we ignored him and switched to following up our contacts in the MOD and there was no sign. But if he hadn't made that claim he was so good I bet one of the companies would have taken the risk.

Subject: RE: Tech: There's one born every minute.
From: JHW
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 05:33 AM

Gills

Subject: RE: Tech: There's one born every minute.
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 04:45 PM

Talking of memory, a lot of cheap SD and memory sticks these days may not be the capacity they claim, but you won't find out for a year or two. Plug them in and they report a capacity, but now there is a lot of computing going on inside to cycle block usage and it is not that difficult to fix the reportage to say anything.
eg I have a 1Tb memory stick that tops out at 29Mb, it cost about 1GBP more than a 32Mb stick. But it is all  red  so I got what I wanted!