BS: Things that come naturally to you

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: The Sandman
Date: 23 Aug 16 - 01:22 PM

singing

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Aug 16 - 01:31 PM

In my day I had brilliant teachers liable to veer off into unpredictable and extended diversions as and when it seemed to fit. I'm pretty certain none of them had ever heard of the notion of "lesson plans".

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Aug 16 - 02:49 PM

I always wondered who actually reads all these accountability bits of paper? There must be enormous mountains of Lesson Plans in schools all over the country mouldering away in filing cabinets. Our Head couldn't possible have waded through all that every week.
My neighbour works in a Nursery, and has to take photos of the little ones as they 'reach a milestone'!! So if a tot manages to count a row of toys, she's there like the paparazzi snapping away the moment for posterity. The poor little things can't just enjoy playing in the sand or water tray, it all has to be ticked in a box on a form. Stultifying.

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Aug 16 - 03:03 PM

I never understand instructions until I've done it, and worked out how it's done in the process

My methodology with modern gizmos and software is to not read the manual or help file. If I can do it without it is a well designed item. If I read the manual, they haven't thought it through.

But one yesterday needed local knowledge. Baby buggy folding. I was pressing buttons with both hands and bending the joint. The girlfriend (her Nephews's son's chair) just yanked on a strap in the seat and it collapsed as she lifted! And it was stable in the normal position.

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Aug 16 - 05:34 PM

AThe trick is, try every option, and you'll find the right one and remember it.

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: DMcG
Date: 26 Aug 16 - 08:43 AM

Mysha- and/or confusion



I was booking an aircraft seat and to take one on an exit row there is a condition: you need to be able to understand instructions given by the crew in English and Dutch.


So; do I have to speak both English and Dutch, or is either sufficient? To add piquency we are are talking about not blocking aisles etc in an emergency evacuation and it is quite common for Dutch people to speak both languages fluently so the 'both' interpretation is not absurd.

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Aug 16 - 11:25 AM

A bit like the sign on escalators in the London Tube that says "Dogs must be carried".
I've always chanced my arm and used them even when I haven't got a dog, but then I've got a rebellious streak. Always got away with it so far...

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Aug 16 - 11:41 AM

'Dogs must be carried' hahaha! All commuters would have to find some mutt or other to take onto the Tube.

Sorry to bore people absolutely rigid with the Swan Saga, but this morning I came out of the village shop and there they were again, just appearing round the corner. But only five cygnets and one adult, the pen. Where is the cob and the other two offspring? A chap told me Sue (don't know her) had found one cygnet with an injured foot and took it home to tend to it, and he reckoned the fox had got the cob. I don't buy this, as a fox is no match for an angry adult swan.
I escorted them to the start of the quiet lane, and the pen hissed at me as I waved a motorist to wait. She soon settled down. I think they know we're trying to help them. The cygnets are now huge, up to my waist and as big as their mum. Poor things, struggling along in that ungainly fashion. I get so upset...

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Aug 16 - 12:31 PM

Comments were made up there ^ about logic. I took college courses in logic, but what I got out of them was some overview & comprehension of what I had been doing for years. I discovered I had a penchant/talent for sorting out the processes in thinking and reasoning. It led me to major in Philosophy so I could browse thru the history OF thinking and compare various systems & concepts and integrate my own processes.
   This is subjectively useful, but not always appreciated when I critique others about their thinking.... either in person or in forums like this. I mostly just use whatever ability I have these days to dissect the news and political remarks. No one complains when I 'yell at the TV programs'...(unless I get TOO loud).

Also, when I was in 7th grade, I got a high score in a 'spacial relationships' test, which gave me advanced placement in shop courses.... which I didn't really want back then. It took me years to realize that my natural talent was good for rearranging furniture, packing boxes & moving vans, seeing shapes in odd bits of wood and stacking... and re-stacking... all the extraneous stuff I acquired as I took up woodworking as a retirement hobby.

I'm not much of a musician, but I can hear whether someone else is in tune or has the tune wrong.... ummm... different from what was expected.

I am not sure whether it is a virtue or a flaw, but I am able to avoid internalizing most of the strife & sadness I see in the news. It keeps a line between sympathy & empathy, so that I can control MY reactions in a semi-sane way.

sheesh... didn't mean to sound so stuffy about all this, but I hate to answer that kind of question in a silly, offhand way.

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: leeneia
Date: 26 Aug 16 - 12:47 PM

Senoufou, why don't you get in touch with:

the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds or
the Humane Society or
your local animal control?

They may have insights into swan behavior which will solve this problem.
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But didn't I read someplace that all swans belong to the Queen? Give Her Majesty a jingle.

Thanks for your observations, Bill D?

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Aug 16 - 01:20 PM

Ah, leeneia, I think I'll give Her Maj a call. She might invite me to tea, and we can have a nice little chat about one's swans.
I reckon the cygnets are about ready to fly, and then they'll go by air to the river!

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: leeneia
Date: 27 Aug 16 - 11:41 AM

Good, good. I'm glad you are taking my suggestion seriously.



:)

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 16 - 05:11 PM

A blind person has to work out numerous work arounds that they or you have not consciously considered. I mention this because there are people with profound disabilities who seem to possess different abilities because of their deficit. As a person unable to fully translate language, literature and reading I had to invent different means of information gathering, some of which has no logical explanation to the point of suspicion and disbelief. A blank slate can invent such things with the benefit of not knowing it is suppose to be impossible. This may have been a reason why I was so good at placebo science.

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Aug 16 - 05:43 PM

Don, I know what "placebo" means, and I'm pretty good with "science", but what is "placebo science"?

I forgot about this. I used to think everybody could do this: I can mirror-write. I can write something with my left hand and simultaneously write it backwards with my right. It may be because I'm technically ambidextrous. I do backwards well-used to take notes in college backwards for a short while.

The following happened, which may be interesting to people, or, OTOH, be a while load of "who gives a shit?!" When I was just learning to use scissors, my parents though "Oh great - now we have to find left-handed scissors" and by the time they found some, I was using the right-handed ones with my right hand. So now, I can use scissors, as well as wrenches, screwdrivers and other tools, in either hand.

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: Senoufou
Date: 31 Aug 16 - 04:13 AM

Jeri, I found like you that it is possible to engage the non-dominant hand/arm. I suffered a 'frozen shoulder' last year. My word it was painful, and my right arm, which is my dominant one, was completely out of action. I had it in a sling for several weeks and was determined not to become a pathetic wreck, so got my left arm to do stuff. It was weird at first, and the other arm tried to 'join in' causing me agonies. But I persevered, and eventually could do everything with the 'wrong' hand and arm. Now it's all recovered, the skill has remained; quite useful!
Lord Baden Powell (creator of the Scout Movement) trained himself to use both sides and be ambidextrous.
But as teachers, we were warned never to try and force a child to stop being left-handed, as it would cause problems in the brain, where the dominance originates. Don't know if there's any truth in that!
My bossy little sister is left-handed, and always said it's a sign of great intelligence. She may be right, as she's amazingly bright, has a very high IQ and runs rings round me! Maddening!

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 16 - 11:42 AM

There is a possibility that some left handed people were twins in the womb but reabsorbed their counterpart. The small kick start of extra nutrience is overshadowed by the early developmental course change.
I know it sounds macabre but biology is innocent.

Jeri the idea that hypnosis is an ultimate placebo demanded that I coin the term placebo science when speaking of therapeutic hypnosis.

Therapeutic hypnosis Inc. was also a firm I worked for once.

Of all the associations one has with the word hypnosis you will notice that many of them have a negative connotation. I was dedicated to only the positive aspects of the craft such as quiting smoking weight loss end of ie counseling, surgical assistance, dental work support, slef confidence, escape from cults and things that had never been tried before.

This week CNN has a special called HOLY HELL. It is about a Jim Jones like character who does not seem like an evil maniacal actor from central casting but appears rather like a dancing Angel.

Hypnosis is neither good nor evil but in the wrong hands we can get Trump like characters

I have not seen holy hell but I will check it out.

Subject: RE: BS: Things that come naturally to you
From: meself
Date: 01 Sep 16 - 01:15 AM

I'm really good at putting my foot in my mouth. Either foot, in fact. I frequently do it without even thinking about it!