BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016

Subject: BS: Hurricane Matthew 2016.10.04
From: gnu
Date: 04 Oct 16 - 04:15 PM

Stay safe guys. Let us know how you are doing. https://weather.gc.ca/hurricane/track_e.html

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew 2016.10.04
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Oct 16 - 08:08 PM

WE in the Wash DC area 'may' get some weather, but the European model says... so far... that it won't be much. We are regularly saved by N. Carolina taking the brunt of coastal storms. More in a couple of days when the patterns are clearer..

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew 2016.10.04
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 16 - 08:58 PM

It does look like it's heading your way, up the east coast.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Oct 16 - 12:11 AM

I'll be driving the Blue Ridge Parkway in North Carolina on Wed-Fri. If the weather gets bad, I'll head over the mountains to Tennessee, not far away. Dani and Abby Sale and Janie are in a more vulnerable location in the Raleigh-Durham area, but probably all they'll get is rain.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: gnu
Date: 05 Oct 16 - 09:00 AM

Head back out to sea in the latest models. Time will tell. Matthew and Nicole could meet up?

Subject: Joe
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 16 - 10:26 AM

Thank FDR for the parkway

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Oct 16 - 09:30 PM

Now they are saying it may circle back and hit Florida twice! Weird... and they may start the largest evacuation ever for Florida...

Y'all be careful down there.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Oct 16 - 10:07 PM

I wonder if it will end up so far inland as to drench Bee-dubya-ell in Flori-bama?

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Oct 16 - 10:58 PM

No, Acme, this one's going to miss me by about 300 miles. Unfortunately, I'm the only member of my immediate family it's going to miss. My sisters and dad are in the Cape Canaveral area, I have numerous relatives in Jacksonville, and both of my kids are in coastal South Carolina. Any of 'em who feel the need to evacuate are welcome, as long as they bring their own air mattresses.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Janie
Date: 05 Oct 16 - 11:27 PM

Ditto, BWL, re my family in Melbourne. They are watching closely and my cousins at Satellite Beach are prepared to evacuate to their daughter's home in Melbourne on the mainland. As long as they are OK with that plan, I am also. Family on the west coast, in and around Sarasota should be fine.

Looks like inland NC has dodged the bullet. Only 2 hurricanes have made it far enough inland to cause damage or major power outages in the 30 years I have lived here. Neither were fun, but nothing like the death, flooding and destruction possible along our coast, and especially nothing like what Haiti, Cuba, and the Bahamas have or are enduring from Matthew, even as I type.

With no thought of downplaying the dangers and devastations that have been or may be caused by hurricanes that hit the USA, or the long term and life changing impacts, I can not but weep even more for the people who live in Haiti, Cuba, and other countries in the Caribbean and Central America when they get slammed by major hurricanes.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 04:21 AM

the sad fact is that the most likely is that there will be more hurricanes and worse worst ones in the future. We are certainly seeing rough weather in the UK on a smaller scale, compared to the centuries that we have good records for. CO2 past the alleged tipping point this year.
The policy of long term preparation is our best policy. Tinned food, shelters, etc.
I remember during a bout of diarrhea when I couldn't leave the house for days, just after a long weekend my food stocks were almost non-existent. GF was not around to buy yoghurt which was my best guess at a safe food. I was literally in the shit. Toilet paper was plentiful. Thankfully.
It does focus the mind a bit though. Maybe I should invest in incontinence pads! As insurance.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 06:15 AM

Cape Canaveral is targeted.
Retirement villages will not withstand this storm.
Biggest evacuation EVER.

I saw what the Andrew storm did. Xtreme demolition

1 - 8 foot storm surge on a coast about 1-5 feet high

There is a remote possibility the storm will loop back and strike again.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 11:11 AM

Melbourne is in the heart of the evacuation zone with 145 mph winds and storm surges and waves of 12 feet. The eye wall will hit Melbourne. Get to Tampa.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 11:18 AM

Even better just get to a state shelter.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: gnu
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 11:59 AM

Click the link in the OP. I like it better than the US one. Looking bad for Florida. 240kph sustained.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: gnu
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 12:02 PM

Just looked at the link again... now 230kph when it gets there.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 01:12 PM

The US base at Guantanamo seems to have survived 'OK'..

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/guantanamo/article106243662.html

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 04:38 PM

More warnings from everyone who can give warnings. EVACUATE if you live between Palm Beach and the S. Carolina border... and even Savannah & Charleston may be hurt badly.

Some areas like Melbourne "may be uninhabitable" for weeks or months.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Janie
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 06:50 PM

Very concerned for my family in Satellite Beach and Melbourne. I wish the whole crew had decided to move further west than just the Melbourne mainland where Trish and Kenny's daughter lives. Storm surge on the barrier islands predicted to be 7-11 ft. I think it inevitable Trish and Kenny, who live halfway between Satellite Beach and Indian Harbor will return home to find serious flood damage. Hopefully the house will not be washed away.

Not calling them now because I know they have spent the day, the whole clan, doing what they can to batten down things.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 07:10 PM

This New York Times story is a chilling description of what it's like to live through a hurricane:

holed up in a motel through Hurricane Andrew

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Janie
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 08:50 PM

Been corresponding with Cuz on FB. Hunkered down on the mainland at her daughter's home, built after Andrew to even fiercer standards to withstand hurricanes than her own, older home on the barrier islands. I know a river flood is different from a storm surge. But think it likely they will survive the wind devastation without injury. That is the most important thing. I know storm surge and a large area devastated by wind and water is much larger scale than what I endured from that river flood in WV in 1985, but recover they will as long as they survive the wind, and likely they will. A hard road back beats being dead.

She is on her way to a marguarita and a shower, then a game of scrabble to distract. Good plan.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 16 - 10:56 PM

100+ years ago This one was worse.

Best of luck. It looks like the coastal clean up will take a good 10 months.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Charmion
Date: 07 Oct 16 - 09:51 AM

Does anyone know how Alaska Mike and Tawmmie are doing? Their chickens would never survive a full-force blast ... which wouldn't do their house any good, either.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: harpgirl
Date: 07 Oct 16 - 11:07 AM

Tallahassee has been spared but I am still waiting to hear from my brother in Stuart.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Oct 16 - 01:29 PM

Alaska Mike is on the other side of Florida. I'd guess they'll be fine.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Janie
Date: 07 Oct 16 - 02:55 PM

Message from my cousin in Melbourne mid-morning. All are safe. Some minimal damage in yard at her daughter's house. She won't know about damage to her own house until they are allowed back on the island, but does know the storm surge did not cross A1A so her house is not flooded. She thinks it likely Matthew stayed just far enough off shore that at worst she will find minor roof and fence damage from the low hurricane force winds.

From Cape Canaveral north, there may be more wind and storm surge damage as Matthew is raking closer to the coast.

Hope you get reassuring news from your brother, HG.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 16 - 11:08 PM

It sounds like this storm could double back before it is finished with the SE US. Stay safe and dry, everyone.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 12:31 AM

My niece in Charleston has fled north, to Asheville NC with 5 dogs, all she could gather...

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 01:14 AM

I am trying to play tourist on the East Coast. I abandoned North Carolina because there was no lodging available there, and went West to Tennessee. Even in Tennessee, I have been having trouble getting lodging. I opted for Mississippi for tomorrow night, and then I hope that I will have no problem getting lodging in New Orleans and on the Gulf Coast. Most of the hotels are booked solid, hundreds of miles away from the coast. The weather inland has been spendid.
Joe

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 07:28 AM

Saint Augustine got slammed pretty hard. Lots of flooding. That's bad news for me because I'm scheduled to exhibit in an art festival there on Thanksgiving weekend. I doubt the show would be canceled (it's held outdoors in a big treeless field that's impervious to damage) but lodging may be a problem. Repairs to damaged buildings will still be going on and I would expect all the motel rooms to be full of out-of-town contractors and still-displaced residents. I can sleep on a cot in the van if I have to, but my wife won't do that anymore. Looks like I'll be flying solo and sleeping in the parking lot.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Janie
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 03:54 PM

While I am in no danger, even this far northwest and inland we are really feeling the effects. 4 inches of rain so far - I'm on high ground - and north wind is beginning to knock down weakened oak branches all around the yard. Creeks are starting flood and the Haw River is beginning to flood downstream in Chatham Co. Glad for my carport as a big rotted oak limb I didn't know was there just landed in the driveway and would have done some serious damage to my car.

Was out earlier today. Lots of standing water in low places in the road and flowing water from side streets, overwhelmed storm drains and overflowing ditches when going up and down grades. I think there is likely to be major flooding down east, not just from the much heavier rain they are getting, but from all this rain here and west of here as it moves downstream to the coast.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Janie
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 09:22 PM

Rain abating. Wind much stronger than forecast. Feeling nervous about that large dying oak next to the house scheduled to be taken down after leaf fall.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Janie
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 09:47 PM

Haiti Death Toll Rising By the Hour

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Oct 16 - 07:03 PM

Bits and pieces of the storm gave us some much-needed rain north of Long Island Sound. Yes, the reports from the Caribbean are dire -- thoughts and prayers for those who have lost everything.

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 10 Oct 16 - 02:49 PM

A bit of hurricane irony:

Of the five surviving members of my immediate family, four live "in the danger zone", less than ten miles from the Atlantic coast: Dad & sister in Melbourne, FL, sister in St. Marys, GA, son in Charleston SC.

My daughter lives a "safe" 60+ miles inland, in Florence, SC. So, guess which one's camped out in the one room in her house that was left undamaged after the tree fell on her roof?

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 10 Oct 16 - 09:38 PM

Oh, no! How awful for her!

Subject: RE: BS: Hurricane Matthew October 2016
From: Janie
Date: 10 Oct 16 - 10:35 PM

Very serious flooding happening at a slow roll in eastern North Carolina as the water in rain-swollen rivers from more than a hundred miles inland moves toward the coast. Worst is yet to come.

The flooding from slow moving hurricane Floyd devastated eastern NC in, I think, 1999. The flooding that is happening and yet to come will not last as long, but water levels will be even higher than with Floyd.

I recall our good friends Brian and Kathy, who lived more than a mile from the Neuse River in Goldsboro, and who spent 3 days huddled in their attic before they were rescued by boat.

I have a special empathy for flooded folks, having been washed out of WV in 1985 with 5 feet of water in the house for days, as well as an understandable special horror of flooding.

This year, in the USA, seems to be a notable year of flood and fire. With changing climate, we best get accustomed to both, and learn to adapt. Flooding and fire on a large scale are becoming much less remarkable, though no less devastating.