BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies

Subject: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Greg F.
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 05:33 PM

Here ya go, Ake, Ians, Mr.T et. al. - Just for lovers of Trump and Trumpism. Have at it, and leave serious threads alone, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: akenaton
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 05:52 PM

What serious threads would they be? The nicknames, or the alternative facts or half a dozen others in the same vein?
The only serious threads are those which address the two sides of the equation.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: akenaton
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 05:54 PM

and they always get deleted as this is a "liberal" forum.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 06:28 PM

No they don't "always get deleted." You're lying. And where are the names of those threads of thousands, please?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Feb 17 - 11:00 PM

Someone... not saying who... needs to contemplate 'why' he seems to see an excess of liberals on a this forum.

Since it is foremost a music forum and very specifically focused on folk/trad music... and since folkies are widely known for their concern for causes that expose cruelty, abuses, cheating, hate... and general issues of the plebeian classes... I, for one, am not surprised that the basic, insightful commentary tends to exemplify the more liberal/progressive attitudes. ☺

However... forums (fora?) are not 'liberal', people are. Perhaps one who feels inundated by excessive 'liberalism' is hanging out in an inappropriate forum? Except that liberals ARE known for tolerating discussions of almost all viewpoints, even when they seriously disagree with certain ones.

I wonder where one can find an...ummm.. conservative... forum where one can feel more 'comfy' and appreciated? I saw a couple a long time ago, and I certainly didn't find my 'liberal' comments very welcome.

   It gets really tedious when the character of the forum becomes a major point of concern, nicht whar?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: EBarnacle
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 12:27 AM

A friend of mine sent me a fake news site which included flat earth, conspiracy theories, etc. I thanked him for presenting me with a tin foil hat site as I had wondered what such a site looked like. For some reason, I have not heard from him since.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: akenaton
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:49 AM

"someone" doesn't see an excess of liberals on this forum Bill, quite the contrary. :0)

"Someone" could set down a list of extremely illiberal members which would stretch for column inches.
Calling oneself a liberal, doesn't cut it....you have to walk the walk.   People here have often been mobbed and insulted for religious belief or political opinions.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: bobad
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 08:24 AM

Except that liberals ARE known for tolerating discussions of almost all viewpoints, even when they seriously disagree with certain ones.

That certainly excludes the mob that currently dominates political discussion below the line, their MO is more in line with fascism than liberalism IMO.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 08:36 AM

Just what I thought bobad !

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: akenaton
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 09:16 AM

I agree Bobad....you put that much better than I did.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 09:19 AM

Ah, but then all manner of tinfoil hat brigade nonsense "informs" your opinion Bobad.

their MO is more in line with fascism = LIE (a.k.a. Trumpism)

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: bobad
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 09:52 AM

Ah, but then all manner of tinfoil hat brigade nonsense "informs" your opinion Bobad.

You wouldn't care to provide an example of that, would you Greg.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 10:05 AM

Far too many to count, Bobad, never mind post.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: bobad
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 10:13 AM

Thought not Greg, just more Made-Up-Shit™ from one of the hyenas.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 11:35 AM

Made-up shit is it?
I seem to remember Obama deliver a measured but clearly angry (angry for him? Barely irate shall we say) when Twitler opined that Obama was not born in the USA.

For those who are hard of thinking I used the word opined deliberately, please use it in your tirade or be a made up shit yourself. Choice is yours.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: bobad
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 11:44 AM

Hmm.....I think you've lost the plot somewhat M. Rouge.....lol.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: michaelr
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 02:08 PM

"hard of thinking" -- I love that!

Remember, an alternative truth, aka lie, is now called a fuct.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 04:08 PM

Or possibly a fuctbad?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 05:04 PM

Bill D says: Except that liberals ARE known for tolerating discussions of almost all viewpoints, even when they seriously disagree with certain ones.

I used to believe that, too, Bill, but things have changed in the last 20 years, and now it often seems that many liberals are just as intolerant as the conservatives are. It's disillusioning to me. I wonder if it's the Internet that has polarized people and made them so intolerant.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 05:18 PM

What's a bloody "liberal" anyway? Anyone care to attempt to define terms for this thicko? 😂😂😂

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Feb 17 - 09:56 PM

many liberals are just as intolerant as the conservatives are.

Perhaps the "liberals"- if you insist on using that relatively meaningless term - are simply tired and exasperted having had to deal with increasing numbers of "conservatives" who live and operate in a fact-free or at least fact-averse universe over the last couple of decades.

Twitler is the logical result of this.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 01:48 AM

Yup, Greg, you're a perfect example of a liberal who's given up. Instead of using facts and logic to back up your position, you resort to the same sort of juvenile name-calling the conservatives love so much.

But the Trump voters have legitimate issues that need to be addressed. Obamacare was a good start, but it needs fixing. People are terrified of terrorism, and they haven't been convinced that the government has it under control - and that fear stirs nativism and anti-immigrant sentiments. Lots of people from formerly industrial areas have no hope of finding well-paid employment, another reason for nativism and opposing immigration. And those pipelines offer a promise of jobs and fuel security - why can't they be built so they're safe, instead of just blocking them?

Instead of your tiresome name-calling, why not come up with answers to the issues?

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 03:31 AM

why not come up with answers to the issues?

1) dialogue, shouting ain't dialogue.

2) honesty - accepting that politics is a belief system founded on confirmation bias.

3) data collection, and no cherry-picking!

4) am I boring you yet? I could prattle on.

OK they ain't answers, they is methodologies. But therein lies the solution.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 03:52 AM

"But the Trump voters have legitimate issues that need to be addressed."
Every demagogue in history rose to power claiming to be addressing issus that needed addressing - every single one.
They usually chose scapegoats and turned people against one another ad they rose to the top while they were slugging it out.
Can we just clear up this term "liberal" before it catches on in ita 'Akeuse' form.
By definitioon it means:
Willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
2. (of education) concerned with broadening a person's general knowledge and experience, rather than with technical or professional training.
"the provision of liberal adult education"
synonyms: wide-ranging, broad-based, general, humanistic

I'd be happy to be accused of this at any time, though it in no way describes my politics.
Ake has taken fascist Ann Coulter's (one of his favourite media persons) meaning of the term and turned it into a term of abuse.
Please don't descend to his and her level by allowing him to do so.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 04:12 AM

I would have thought the main issue to be addressed is to find out who is orchestrating this well planned, efficient attempted coup against the
POTUS.
Those that voted against Trump may feel their public protests and posturings are creating these problems for the Presidency but my feeling is that they are deluding themselves. Everything countering the President's attempts to govern is sliding into place like a well oiled machine. For a country that prides itself for being a democracy these events should be a cause for major concern. If it is not the electorate creating these problems then who can it be?
If this President goes down, the precedent is set for unelected persons to use this tactic whenever they want to in the future.
Where is your democracy then?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 04:56 AM

"Where is your democracy then?"
You - or any other Trump supporter - has yet to respond to the undemocratic and unconstitutional nature of Trumpism
That is what you are defending, not democracy
Even members of Trump's party, including those in his inner circle, are beginning to get cold feet about his irrational and crudely extremist behaviour
Is that "undemocratic"
What is now happening in America does not deserve to be dignified with the term 'Democracy"
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Stu
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 05:17 AM

Iains has a point. Trump is being undermined by unelected individuals within the bureaucracy who are leaking information at an alarming rate. There is a real danger that this could drive a wedge between the White House and the machinery of government, and this will endanger democracy. Had this been happening under a Clinton administration the howls of indignation would be deafening.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 05:18 AM

Jim the point I am trying to make is that the Presidency is like a goldfish bowl:- Very public. everything that takes place can be scrutinised and actions held to account.
The actions occurring to destabilise the Presidency are being carried out by unknown persons/organisations. If it was the people on the streets creating this mayhem for his administration, that is one thing. What is happening here is apparently unelected members of Deep State dictating their will.
There is a line of thought that Kennedy upset similar people "(break the CIA into thousands of pieces?", Destroy the Federal Reserve?")
Who won that round? Is history repeating?


These actions raise serious questions for a country that maintains it is the premier democracy. Is the President man or mouse? a puppet or puppet master? Is his role to lead the people or be the public persona of deep state.
In the orgy of backslapping and self congratulation seen on this forum by the Trump haters there is an inconvenient truth being overlooked.
Trump promised to drain the swamp. The swamp is drowning him.
Dangerous times.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 05:45 AM

Very well said Iains.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 05:52 AM

"Very public. everything that takes place can be scrutinised and actions held to account."
If prt of that "held to account" is in unprecedented public demonstrations from day one, it is extremely dangerous to suggest they are insurrections, orr even verging on such - and if thise demonstrations succeed in bringing him down, do be it - that's as democratic as it gets - People Power.
Trump is aiming to denigrate democratic and constitutional organisations, such as the judiciary - that is what you and yours are defending with your silence.
Throughout history, "legally elected" government despots d have been blocked and overthrown by popular opposition - passing it off as repressive and "dangerous" is - repressive and "dangerous"
Please respond to what Trump is actually doing rather than trying to stmap out and denigrate opposition to those actions
You are just setting up a smokescreen in his defence
He was elected by a little over a quarter of the population and many of those who put him where he was are turning away, so that is a summation of his authority - the rest is bullshit
I see no popular demonstrations in his support - do you?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 05:55 AM

By the war
"Trump promised to drain the swamp. "
The "swamp" Trump referred to was full of human beings in trouble
I take it you've had the same humanity removal operation ake has
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Stu
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 06:01 AM

The suggestion of the existence of a "deep state" is probably erroneous in the case of the USA, unless there is more than one deep state at work.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 06:37 AM

With all respect Jim. You deliberately misunderstand what I say.
What happens domestically in the US is only of passing interest to me.
It is the ramifications of the foreign policy that do directly impact on my life.
    If you think a President trying to ease back tensions between the US and Russia is a bad thing then I pity you. The preservation of the status quo means tensions are ramped up, illegal wars continue and the bankers and arms industry maestros make their millions. Do you really think they give a toss about you and your opinions and all the domestic protests?
    As I said before, all the signs are the tail is wagging the dog.
If you think that situation strengthens democracy you are in la la land.
This is a struggle between factions and the presidency and conlicting agendas.
If you want to take the simplistic view and think it is all about a personality cult so be it.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 06:55 AM

" You deliberately misunderstand what I say.
With respects - I don't deliberately misunderstand anybody's postings mking you "with respect hypocritical bullshit
"What happens domestically in the US is only of passing interest to me."
due to the aggressive nature of your postings nothing you say is of an interest to me
"If you think a President trying to ease back tensions between the US and Russia is a bad thing then I pity you"
If you believe I have ever suggested a thing I pity your illiteracy
Stop setting up straw men
I said that Trump unconstitutionally and illegally enlisted the support of Russia to gain office - if you aren't aware of that fact, you should not even be attempting to debate this topic.
Trump has no ntention of stopping illegal wars - he has proposed the use of nuclear weapons at least half a dozen times and he has just slapped six Muslim countries in the face by illegally attempting to ban them from entry into the US
He carefully missed out the State which provided the largest number of participants in 9/11
"This is a struggle between factions "
The largest number of the early demonstrations were organised by women protesting about his attitude to their agenda - some faction
No demonstrations have been instigated by the Democratic Party.
Bullshit Trumpist misinformation.
Answer the facts on Trump and stop tweeting
America was built on popular protest, The War of Independence, The Civil Rights Marches being typical.
The people who made up the proudly mongrel race that is America are no different than those Trump is trying to block and eject go read the quote from the Empire State Building
GIVE ME YOUR TIRED, YOUR POOR, YOUR HUDDLED MASSES YEARNING TO BREATHE FREE
Your arguments are dishonest, undemocratic and inhuman
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 07:48 AM

I think you will find the reality is that:-GIVE ME YOUR TIRED, YOUR POOR, YOUR HUDDLED MASSES YEARNING TO BREATHE FREE ceased to be many years ago. I do not think green cards are handed out like popsicles any more.
If you wish to continue discussing the man rather than the underlying realities and try to destroy debate by attempting to stifle it by saying counter arguments are dishonest, undemocratic and inhuman then your powers of debate must be severely limited. You are making items up to suit your agenda.
Who has spoken about "demonstrations instigated by the democrats?"," Who is tweeting?"

"America was built on popular protest, The War of Independence, The Civil Rights Marches being typical."
Typical selectivism Jim.
The civil war killed thousands (620k)and cost millions. Does that statistic not suit your narrative.
The events taking place in the US now could possibly repeat that event above. In terms of modern population the equivalent death toll could be 6.5million.
Like him or hate him, the only way to remove Trump is by legal means.
The coup taking place right now merely illustrates that the responsible movers and shakers do not give a fig for your democracy. A very dangerous precedent is being set. The intelligence services consider themselves above the law and presume rights that have never been considered, let alone verified by congress and totally against all the constitution was designed to uphold. By constantly villifying the man, these events are taking place in collusion with the MSM and totally overlooked by most of the electorate.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 08:13 AM

"ceased to be many years ago"
Immaterial
America was formed by those fleeing persecution and want and is made up of those people.
"If you wish to continue discussing the man rather than the underlying realities"
The underlying realities are the man and his actions
The dishonest and illegal way he was elected is very much part of that discussion as are the dangers his actions and intentions which effect us all from ecologiacal destruction to the encouragement to fascism he is helping expand.
"The civil war killed thousands (620k)and cost millions. Does that statistic not suit your narrative."
Sorry to totally beyond me
Are you suggesting that the legal government should not have opposed Southern secession and allowed slavery to continue in the South?
That would be and interesting subject to debate with you!!
Love to know where you stand on that one!!
What Trump is doing is undermining the constitution and has been ruled illegal
We should sit on our hands and allow him to continue because it might get up his nose?
There is no coup taking place and your describing what is happening as such would mark you out as an extremist idf your blanket support for Assad's terrorism hadn't already done so.
Your suggestion that demanding to debate Trump's behaviour is "dishonest" marks you out as a raving madman
This gets pointless - you are presented with a set of points to respond to - you can't so you pass on something else.
I really can't be arsed trying to grasp a wriggling worm
Put up a decent argument and stop insulting me or go away - as I've already said, you really aren't very good at this
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 08:25 AM

There is no coup taking place. There may be voices of the unelected briefing against him and he may have enemies within. But coups in the US are not possible. And I can't think why you make a particular case in defence of Trump. Undemocratic forces in the US routinely undermine the administration and have always done so. No-one voted for the gun lobby, no-one voted for the stranglehold of multinationals and no one voted for the pro-Israeli regime lobby. Yet they all shamelessly exercise undue influence on politicians, right up to the top. I don't hear you complaining. I'll draw my own conclusions.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 09:37 AM

"There is no coup taking place."#
Of course there isn't
The right to protest and demonstrate is an integral right of all democracies
Not sure how long it will remain so under Trump - certainly not long if those who equate protests with sedition.
That way lies Fascist extremism
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 09:47 AM

The leaking of classified information is a felony.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 11:09 AM

"The leaking of classified information is a felony."
Collusion with another State in order to win an election is treachery
Denigrating the National judiciary because they have ruled your actions unconstitutional is as treacherous as it gets
Turning one section of the population against another is decisive
Singling out one national group of the population and describing them as "bad guys" is racist, bigoted and and unconstitutional
Suggesting that it is acceptable to sexually assault women is misogynist and illegal.
Barring people from your country because of their religion is bigoted in the extreme and has been ruled illegal by the American legal system.
Defending any of the above is appeasement to racism and injustice
I think my hand trumps your hand, don't you?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 11:10 AM

Pun intended, by the way!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 11:56 AM

Hi, Joe-                

you resort to the same sort of juvenile name-calling..... Instead of your tiresome name-calling

Cite examples, please, posted after 4 Feb 17 - if you can.

People are terrified of terrorism, and they haven't been convinced that the government has it under control - and that fear stirs nativism and anti-immigrant sentiments.

SOME people, Joe - uninformed ones, the ones Trump loves (the under-educated), the same folks that think Obama is a Kenya-born Muslim, that global climate change is a hoax, thet Briebart & Fox tell the truth, that the local Mosque is on the verge of imposing Sharia Law & etc. etc.- THOSE people, Joe. You want an answer: Education.

Lots of people from formerly industrial areas have no hope of finding well-paid employment, another reason for nativism and opposing immigration.

No, Joe, its not a reason, its an excuse. Immigration & foreigners have diddly to do with it; Its the plutocrats like Trump and his cabinet - and the Republican Party in general - that have put those people in the ecomomic straits they're in - Trump & the Trumpites are the problem, not the solution. And ya know what, Joe - those jobs ain't coming back. Ever. That's just more Trump lies. You want an answer? The folks in those areas need to do what I've had to do numerous times: 1. MOVE to where the work is and 2. Re-train themselves for the jobs curently available, instead of sitting on their asses waithing for some economic messiah (or rather snake-oil salesman) to rescue them.

those pipelines offer a promise of jobs and fuel security - why can't they be built so they're safe, instead of just blocking them

No, Joe - they offer the ILLUSION of jobs (very few, in the overall scheme of things) and "fuel security"( whatever that's supposed to mean) Those sorts of pipelines are inherently unsafe, and they won't be made safer because the oil companies and Trump's cabinet (name Rex Tillerson ring a bell?) and the Repubs. in Congress won't allow it or pay for it. They're going to annihilate safety regs and protections into the bargain.

Have a nice day.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 12:25 PM

Greg what is the point of a bookfull of regulations when there are no jobs!   Work is an important ingredient in a healthy society, starvation, rotting away on benefits are not. People need a purpose self esteem, a chance to contribute.
Time we started showing a bit of concern for the wellbeing of our population instead of concentrating on the cut throat ideology of financial aspiration. Despite what you all say Donal-John seems serious about breaking the profit at all costs template and bringing a bit of pride back to blue collar America, OK it won't be couched in terms which will be particularly palatable to "liberals", but I believe the end result will be the destruction of the political elite which has overseen the gradual emasculation of American industry,
As a by product of this we may see some real socialist policies arise not by confrontation but by popular consent.
Confronting Capitalism has always been the biggest mistake, "Softly Softly Catchee Monkey" .......Remember "Z Cars"?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: bobad
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 12:42 PM

Donal-John seems serious about breaking the profit at all costs template and bringing a bit of pride back to blue collar America

Meanwhile the clothing line that bears his name says "Made in China" on the label.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 01:00 PM

Donal-John seems serious about breaking the profit at all costs template and bringing a bit of pride back to blue collar America"
SURE HE IS !!!!!!

WHO COULD DOUBT IT??

GOD FORGIVE US FOR NOT TRUSTING HIM
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 03:10 PM

"Donal-John"
Ake
Some time ago you saw fit to ask people who were seeking names to fir this excuse for hiumanity whether they didn't have any comics to read
Any chance you could confine your suck-holing of this man to the privacy of your own company
Your cap-doffing is sickening
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 03:58 PM

"Hi Ram Ho! fur Donal John,
Wi aw his tanterwallops on,
An' may he niver lack a scone,
While he mak's hi'lan' whisky.......:0) "

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 05:46 PM

Donal-John seems serious about breaking the profit at all costs template Donal-John seems serious about breaking the profit at all costs template

Fer chrissake, Ake - Twitler IS the "profit at all costs template" as are each of his cabinet appointments.

"Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?"

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 07:38 PM

"Donal John,"
Your support for this monster now reaches ' collaboration" proportions
One of his employees invented the "Bowling Green Massacre" that never took place, now he has announced a Terrorist attack in Sweden that never happened
He is made - his supporters are both sick and dishonest
I hope you have no kids to bequeath tha sick world you are going to leave them
You won't respond to this of course, Quisling hero that you are and I doubt if your mate Iain will either.
Doesn't seem part of your makeup
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Why I Love Twitler And His Lies
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Feb 17 - 07:43 PM

His makeup? Don't tempt me, Jim...