BS: Facebook, Again.

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: bobad
Date: 27 May 17 - 08:03 PM

Well Greg if Jeri were to do that the pathetic remains of the BS section would be reduced to a couple of mundane threads and the pitiful whining of a few Brits - as your president is wont to say......sad.

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 May 17 - 08:34 PM

The "pain in the ass" list is getting very long, and it's on both sides of the argument. Somebody uses the term "Jew Hater," and then the term gets used ten times more by the people that don't like the "Jew Hater" term. In this thread, the term "Jew hater" was used once by Bobad quoting somebody else in the midst of 11 times by people who didn't like being called "Jew Hater" but used the term anyhow. Cut it out, or we'll have to close another thread. Can't really say I care who called whom what. It's all juvenile. This is a thread about Facebook, not Jew haters. And whatever you people have to say or not say, I like Facebook because I can share pictures on it.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 May 17 - 08:35 PM

I find it hard to identify with people getting upset by offensive PMs. One great advantage of the Mudcat PM system over most other forms of messaging is that you never need to read anything you don't want to - just tick the box in the Delete column, hit Process, job done. I got a PM this evening from somebody who I assumed was trying to continue a discussion I was done with; I've no idea what they were trying to say and don't care what I missed, that PM is irretrievably gone.

"bobad" can send me all the offensive Mudcat PMs she wants. I'm never going to read any of them so why should I be bothered?

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: bobad
Date: 27 May 17 - 08:57 PM

I like Facebook because I can share pictures on it.

Yay Joe!

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 May 17 - 09:00 PM

I don't think this is about offensive private messages, Jack. It's about some eeejit who pops up all over the place, not just trolling but also stalking, who has nothing to say but who is rather adept at name-calling. Joe, unfortunately, shows every sign of not knowing what goes on (fine) because he doesn't read the threads (fine) but who tends to bollock the victims (weird). I should like to ask the confraternity here how they would like to be repeatedly called Jew haters by some piece of scum who can't accept that there are different legitimate views to his apropos of the Middle East. Now sod this. I'm pissed off. Let's talk Facebook which also pisses me off, but hey.

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: bobad
Date: 27 May 17 - 09:01 PM

"bobad" can send me all the offensive Mudcat PMs she wants. I'm never going to read any of them so why should I be bothered?
However deep in left field that comment comes from all I can say is amen Jack!

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 May 17 - 09:11 PM

OK, that's it. Get back to the original subject. Isn't Facebook fun? Here, go look at some wildflowers (click).
Thank you.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 May 17 - 09:18 PM

No. Facebook isn't fun. It's an out-of-control monster.

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: bobad
Date: 27 May 17 - 09:20 PM

Nice flowers Joe. I saw that there was a super bloom in the western deserts this spring, the images were a wonder to behold. Did you manage to get a look?

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 May 17 - 09:45 PM

...and Lighthouses (click). Look at all those nice lighthouses!

I missed my usual flower trips this year, Bobad; but I've seen a lot of flowers right here in the Sierra Foothills. I hear my favorite desert places were way overcrowded. Yosemite is supposed to be a mess this weekend.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 May 17 - 04:19 AM

"In this thread, the term "Jew hater" was used once by Bobad "
You cannot produce one thread as an example Joe - that is an utter distortion of the situation
The term has always been a permanent feature of Bobad's vocabulary and has appeared dozens of times on every single argument that has occurred on the Middle East and on the Palestine/Israel conflict - without exception.
He uses it without hesitation on all opponents and he refuses to qualify it in any way shape or form
I have a permanent offer on the table that if Bobad, Bearded Bruce, or whoever can produce one single example of my hating Jews I will make a generous donation to any named charity - over several years, that offer has never been taken up - not once has anyone attempted to do so.
And still Bobad keeps it coming - years worth of it - not the once you appear to suggest.
And I have little doubt he will continue to do so - he really does appear to be such a 'bear of little brain'.
I grew up in a household where, if I was heard denigrating any people for their race or beliefs I would would have been thrown out on my arse.
My father was inspired to go to Spain where he was wounded and imprisoned in a Spanish prison, because of what was happening to the Jews in Germany (and on the streets of Liverpool)
His funeral, when he died, was attended by men who had fought for Israeli independence "Jewish freedom fighters"
My grandmother was arrested for throwing a stone which struck our home grown British "Jew hater" Oswald Mosley.
I spent four years associating with holocaust survivors and their families who insisted "never again" - not to anybody" - they shared then and no doubt still do, my attitude to what is happening in modern Israel
Bobad is fully aware of these facts - he has sneered at them often enough - and he persists with his cowardly "Jew hater" attacks from the safety of anonymity and the indifference of the forum administrators, it would appear.
I'm not a Christian and am not prepared to "turn the other cheek" - not forever, at least.
When a turdule like Bobad, who openly and in defiance of all definitions which make it antisemitic to associate the actions of the Israeli State with the Jewish People as a whole, accuses me of something he is guilty of every time he uses the term "Jew hater" I refuse to apologise for how I react.
Enough is enough
It really is time that those in charge stop this snake in his slither - he has to stop voluntarily or he has to be removed - simple as that
The worm is this quite tasty apple debases argument and he debases this forum in doing so
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: akenaton
Date: 28 May 17 - 10:51 AM

As far as I can see the "Jewish people" support the Israeli State strongly....almost unanimously.
I usually keep well clear of this complicated subject, but Jim's continual over-simplifications begin to grate after a while.

Without doubt, the State of Israel is under severe pressure, surrounded as it is by Arab Nations who find it impossible to control their own populations.....in saying that, the policy of settlement growth is hardly beneficial to a peaceful outcome.

The Arabs practice terrorism on an on-going basis and the Israelis obviously believe that it is in their interests to respond in kind.
The conflict could and should have been broughtto a conclusion years ago, but successive corrupt Arab leaders have seen it in theie PERSONAL interests to fan the flames.

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 May 17 - 01:02 PM

As far as I can see the "Jewish people" support the Israeli State strongly....almost unanimously.

Bullshit, if what you're implying is that they support the multiple atrocities committed by the Govt. of Israel.

Time for a trip to your occulist, Ake.

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 May 17 - 01:19 PM

Leave this for Facebook and don't get dragged into this extremist's idiocy Greg
His selective short-nearsightedness speaks for itself
And for god's sake don't mention Albert Einstein, the Holcause survivors, Jews and Rabis for justice or all those "self hating Jews"
We'll be here till Christmas
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: bobad
Date: 28 May 17 - 01:21 PM

Welcome to Israel, the only country in the world where self defense is an atrocity.

"This way for the gas, ladies and gentlemen."

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 May 17 - 02:29 PM

"Welcome to Israel, the only country in the world where self defense is an atrocity. "
Aparently it is when the Arabs indulge in it in defence of their lives and families
I believe the Nazis put up exactly the same excuse when they slaughtered the people of Lidice
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 May 17 - 02:33 PM

ISRAELI SELF DEFENCE
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: bobad
Date: 28 May 17 - 02:41 PM

ISRAELI SELF DEFENSE

Subject: RE: BS: Facebook, Again.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 May 17 - 03:07 AM

A totally one sided and meaning list carefully omitting every single massacre and atrocity committed by the Israelis
Where is Der Yassin, or the atrocities of the Six Days War testified to by Israeli troops, where is Sabra Shatila where are the military incursions tat slaughtered so many Palestinian civilians, including the elderly and deffenceless women andf children and destroyed so many homes and hospitals...
Where are the documented reports of the use of chemicals and anti personnel missiles like white phosphorus and flechette
Where are the seizures of land - where are the maps documenting those seizures
Any agenda driven moron can compile a list as long as the omit the facts.
Palestine in a nation populated by an impoverished third world people facing a highly trained heavily armed extremist right wing State who wish to ethnically cleanse the area in order to make room for a wealthy politically powerful people of one religion.
The only reason it has never faced charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity is that it has been protected from doing so by United States vetoes - no other reason.
Try some facts from ISRAELI HUMANISTS
B'tslem figures show that over ten years, from 2004 to 2014, 26 Israeli civilians have been killed by Palestinian rocket fire
According to U.N. figures, in 2014 alone, 1,462 Palestinian civilians, including 551 children were killed by Israeli troops, the Israeli civilian dead totalled 6, including a child.
That is how "defensive" Israeli terrorism has been down the years.
Enough of this
The only reason Israel is on this thread is the fact that Israel and Facebook are now conspiring to censor any discussion of the the conflict that is detrimental to Israeli's efforts to clear the area of Arabs - a blatent attempt to suppress information on what is actually happening in this conflict.