BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Sep 17 - 11:57 AM

"Since when is it COLD weather that discourages mating?"

well speaking for me and the mrs..

when she starts moaning about being freezing despite having the central heating on full,
and wears 2 hideous impenetrable fleece onesies, one under the other, in bed... 🙄

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: frogprince
Date: 04 Sep 17 - 11:27 AM

"lost all interest in sex, maybe because of the cold weather"

Since when is it COLD weather that discourages mating?

When the weather's hot and sticky,
that's no time for dunkin' dicky;
When the frost is on the punkin,
That's the time for dicky dunkin'

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Sep 17 - 08:21 AM

The last Mammoths were probably a victim of climate change. They were found on an island that could have cut them off from the mainland with rising seas. Natural selection kept the smallest versions alive by not dying of starvation by depleting a limited food source.

Unrelated to the last island Mammoths, island bears became larger as they succeeded. Today the largest known bear is the Kodiak Island bear. This goes against the rules of Islands selecting smaller animals possibly because of an innate swimming ability by bears.

Or feasting on miniature mammoths?

naaa, they probably inbreed themselves to death like rich royalty



http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/03/03/on-arctic-island-last-woolly-mammoths-had-genetic-meltdown.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/science/woolly-mammoth-extinct-genetics.html?mcubz=1

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Stu
Date: 04 Sep 17 - 07:39 AM

Thanks Steve, and you're correct when you say you're going to feed the dinosaurs!

Birds are theropod dinosaurs related to the famous Velociraptor and T. rex. Most of the characteristics we associate with birds evolved in non-avian dinosaurs first: feathers, probably flight, wishbone etc etc all were present before birds appeared. Modern birds appeared before the end of the Cretaceous and are one of several lineages that existed before the K-T extinction.

With over 10,000 species of bird still alive today, we're still in the age of the dinosaurs. I'm pretty sure they'll be here long after we've gone.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Sep 17 - 07:21 AM

Considering it's a miracle the panda actually isn't already extinct because of it's almost complete indifference to reproduction..

Could it be, the Mammoths also lost all interest in sex, maybe because of the cold weather and unromantic surroundings,
and found it easier to just pretend to have constant headaches...???

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Sep 17 - 05:43 AM

i'm a hairy mammoth
My life is very bad
They've run out of my sandwiches
And that makes me sad

Theres a caveman out to get me
Hit me with his club.
he only does it when i'm pissed.
he waits outside the pub.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 04 Sep 17 - 12:03 AM

Horton heard a Who.
The evidence suggests that some dinosaurs, at least, were warm blooded.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Sep 17 - 07:14 PM

You need Stu on the job here, but birds are indeed the direct descendants of one major branch of the dinosaurs. There's a school of thought that the extinction of the dinosaurs is, at least in part, a myth, and that birds are actually dinosaurs. I read somewhere that ducks are pretty close to the dinosaur ancestry. Mrs Steve gets bloody annoyed when I tell her that I'm just going outside to top up the dinosaur feeders. I feel that her objections have no substance.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Iains
Date: 03 Sep 17 - 04:43 PM

It was not a who that killed them but a restricted menu for lunch.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24499916

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Iains
Date: 03 Sep 17 - 04:06 PM

keberoxu. Here is one hell of a chicken!

t:

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/science/1.607358

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Sep 17 - 02:22 PM

yes i've been out with birds like that.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Sep 17 - 01:53 PM

Who was it who remarked,
that the dinosaurs of old with their solidly reptilian nervous systems,
had counterparts today,
not amongst the reptiles,
but the birds? that there are birds much like old dinosaurs?

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 02 Sep 17 - 06:27 PM

if they got a DNA profile of the Mammoth in Derbyshire and compared it to the one in Africa - they could see if they were related.

From this they could work out if they used to hang around the same low life bars, and this might lead them to the serial killer they fell victim to.

From watching many police procedural programmes, i have been able to draw up a profile.

Basically we are looking for a low achiever with self esteem problems. i think he has a collection of weapons. He uses pornography, wears animal skins and the other people in his cave think he is an okay guy, but rather introverted.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Sep 17 - 12:10 PM

It used to be you needed a hair follicle to extract a bit of DNA and not just the hair made of keratin. A beak would be similar except for its 'root'. Then I heard or misheard a regular hair without the follicle can reveal DNA. I'm confused.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 17 - 11:45 AM

Checking refs, I may be mistaken about Emus. The flock of birds that I remember were as described, but might have been a different flightless bird- But they were at least 3 feet taller than I was at the time- ( at about age 30). And two sets of 8 ft. high wire fences did NOT make me feel safe.

And I have eaten emu. Not like chicken at all.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 02 Sep 17 - 11:44 AM

I just bit my tongue eating an orange ice lolly and talking to the mrs.. it's sore and bleeding... [blood orange ice lolly...???]

Makes you wonder how Sabre Tooth Tigers coped when not concentrating properly whilst eating quickly...???

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 17 - 11:35 AM

And the flocks from horizon to horizon would be a lot fewer individuals, if they were "hairy passenger mammoth pigeons" ( or should that be "mammoth hairy passenger pigeons" ? )



But the last known living dodo was taken to Germany circa 1760 . The drawing in the plates of the 18th century Chamber's Encyclopaedia ( and used by Lewis Carrol) is of that animal.

Stuffed after it died, thought to be destroyed by WW II bombing. There may very well be beaks and claws around, but nothing like the amount of Mammoth and Passenger pigeon remains.


And they probably taste a lot like Emu ( which, if you have ever seen a flock of, do NOT need to be crossed with hairy or any other kind of mammoth!) A flock of nine foot tall nasty birds with 4-6 inch spikes on the feet is not to be trifled with!

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Sep 17 - 03:14 AM

we have the ability to recreate both the mammoths and the passenger pigeon

What if they crossed the two? Be a bugger if they shit on you...

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 06:19 PM

"weatherby 300 mag"? Nay, nay! It's all about shot placement. >;-) That's overkill. Dirty Thirty. Iron sights. You could even use one of those fancy new 22 centre fires but the bullets cost too much. Fuckin' yuppies with their newfangled high tech BS. Sitting over bait with their $1000 guns and $1000 optics. But... a 300W would make a short drag so, I'm cool with it. Whatever fills your BBQ.

When I was boy, we used sticks with ends sharpened by fire... when we could find fire. Oh, it was easy when the weather was dry. But, when the fall and winter set in, fire wasn't easy to come by. Unless there was a corner store near by where we could buy matches and Bic lighters. Times were tough.

In any case, bear season opened here today. Tight lines and straight shooting to all who like to eat wild (free range) meat and are ethical hunters. Sight in and flip the switch.... what you don't buy at the grocery store is helping to stop inhumane practices.

BTW... I still buy at the grocery... I can't hunt anymore. Sue me.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 05:51 PM

"If you were a Mammoth and you caught a rhino virus cold in the nose,
you may have been a goner."

Not necessarily. You may have just ended up with a tusk and a half.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 05:49 PM

There could be a dry do do beak somewhere on Earth?

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 03:49 PM

If you were a Mammoth and you caught a rhino virus cold in the nose,
you may have been a goner.

Do Dos were a delicious tender blend of chicken, duck and bacon mmmmmmmm

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 01:10 PM

Given the present level of cloning, we have the ability to recreate both the mammoths and the passenger pigeon ( large supplies of the intact DNA are available )


Moa DNA is a little harder to find, and I think the dodo scraps were destroyed during WW II.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 12:09 PM

its a pity whoever killed the mammoth, killed them all.

perhaps it was the work of a mammothicidal maniac......

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: robomatic
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 12:42 PM

Been using B.C.E. and C.E. for years. It's a case of "Correct Correctness"

Meanwhile, should I buy those old fashioned Roman coins I'm being offered with the dates XC B.C. on them?

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 12:30 PM

Any relation to Betty Swollox, Dave?

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 12:26 PM

Wasn't there an Agatha Christie called who killed Mary Hammoth?

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Iains
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 06:26 AM

"Heard about dendrologists last week (on the wireless)
They are expert in dating ancient wooden objects "

I'd love to see them tackle a bit of MDF.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 05:16 AM

Fluffy Mammoth...... on a bad hair day...

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Mr Red
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 03:34 AM

But Hairy Mammouth sounds a bit like a Trump with a beard.
Or a Smirken Merkin.
Or both, (spot the distinction!).

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 03:18 PM

Nah, Woolly Mammoths you buy from Woolworths!!

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 02:13 PM

so is it a hairy mammoth
or
a woolly mammoth?

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Raggytash
Date: 28 Aug 17 - 07:54 AM

Who killed the hairy mammoth..................


Not me miss, I was in our house watching Banana Splits

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: JHW
Date: 28 Aug 17 - 04:38 AM

"Ilford is one of the world's foremost sites for fossils"

Heard about dendrologists last week (on the wireless)
They are expert in dating ancient wooden objects

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Aug 17 - 02:26 AM

The monkeys stand for honesty
Giraffes are insincere
And the elephants are kindly but they're dumb
Orangutans are skeptical
Of changes in their cages
And the zookeeper is very fond of rum

Read more: Simon And Garfunkel - At The Zoo Lyrics | MetroLyrics

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 09:13 PM

I'd be more inclined to depend on a hedgehog.. they're not spineless....

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 07:13 PM

Insincere? That's like saying
Weasels are wise winners, but I like it.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 05:44 PM

Giraffe's are insincere

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 04:22 PM

About 1 in 6 rescues are of people's pet dog.

That makes wonder how the https://www.houstonzoo.org/meet-the-animals/ animals are doing.

I bet the giraffe is OK.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Raggytash
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 01:53 PM

I rather think Mammoths may be more inclined to Rugby Union, if England could get a team of them together they may even put the wind up the All Blacks (the very successful New Zealand teams for our American cousins)

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 01:40 PM

theres quite a lot of alpacas in a field near here. in a few years perhaps they and the mammoths will be anglicised, play cricket, drink cider and sing folksongs.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 01:25 PM

Human predation and poaching of elephants ranged from 2,000 to 6,000 per year. Then 105 tons of tusk ivory confiscated from poachers was burned with the eyes of the world watching. The average number of poaching went down to 60 per year. 2 million dollars up in smoke but elephant families saw end to a holocaust. Now they are murdered at a rate familiar to humans.

The Trump kids have culled various herds of different species in Africa as ambassador conservationists.
It kinda makes you proud to be an American.

They have yet to evolve from being bored and trying new novelties for a thrill, into learning the value of nuance over novelty - you know like J.S. Bach did with old fashioned Baroque music enhanced to a brand new level of expertise.

Going on Safari with tactical nukes might be a whole new world for the Trump kids. Time will tell.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 10:28 AM

Human predation is a highly plausible contributory factor to the demise of the mammoths..
But it could also be possible that human contact lead to partial taming of these magnificent beasts.
Little tribal girls might have gone out of control styling the mammoths long wooly hair into all sorts curls, plaits, buns, pigtails, ect...
Fussing about so much with ribbons and flowers and dyes,
that these noble creatures eventually lost the will to exist and perished in sheer shame.....???

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 10:14 AM

You can buy Mammoth ivory dirt cheap if you don't mind dark cadaver smelling tusks.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 08:31 AM

I wonder if Hannibal elephants were really Mammoths (Elephantidae)
No doubt someone will correct me.
and if they could also sing would it be similar to :-

Colonel Hathi's March

Hup 2, 3, 4
Keep it up 2, 3, 4
Company sound off!
Sung:
Oh, the aim of our patrol
Is a question rather droll
For to march and drill
over field and hill
Is a military goal!
Is a military goal!
Spoken:
Hup 2, 3, 4
Dress it up 2, 3, 4
Hup 2, 3, 4
Dress it up 2, 3, 4
Sung:
By the ranks or single file
Over every jungle mile
Oh we stamp and crush
Through the underbrush
In a miritaly style!
In a military style!
Spoken:
Hup 2, 3, 4
Keep it up 2, 3, 4

Read more: Sherman Richard M - Colonel Hathi's March (the Elephant Song) Lyrics | MetroLyrics

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Iains
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 03:45 AM

According to the daily wail mammoths liked to go on long hikes in the countryside to build up an appetite.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4824670/Mammoths-roamed-Texas-traveled-120-miles.html

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 04:33 PM

it will be great when they bring them back - there are several fields round here they will be very happy in. you can see them now - if you adjust your medication.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Iains
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 11:50 AM

PFR it gives a whole new meaning to killer fashions.

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 10:48 AM

Perhaps Siberian mammoths became fashion conscious and began shaving & waxing just before a deadly cold snap hit hard...???

Subject: RE: BS: who killed the hairy mammoth?
From: Stanron
Date: 26 Aug 17 - 10:27 AM

A super deep deposit of snow could have suffocated them.