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BS: Pardoning the unpardonable

michaelr 30 Aug 17 - 03:22 AM
michaelr 30 Aug 17 - 03:31 AM
Donuel 30 Aug 17 - 06:50 AM
Greg F. 30 Aug 17 - 09:33 AM
Joe Offer 30 Aug 17 - 08:16 PM
EBarnacle 31 Aug 17 - 12:14 AM
Nigel Parsons 31 Aug 17 - 04:05 AM
leeneia 31 Aug 17 - 05:08 PM
meself 31 Aug 17 - 06:12 PM

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Subject: BS: Pardoning the unpardonable
From: michaelr
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 03:22 AM

The New York Times ran an article the day before the assclown pardoned the dirtbag, from which I quote:

"The sheriff was convicted of violating constitutional rights, in defiance of a court order involving racial profiling. Should the president indicate that he does not think Mr. Arpaio should be punished for that, he would signal that governmental agents who violate judicial injunctions are likely to be pardoned, even though their behavior violated constitutional rights, when their illegal actions are consistent with presidential policies."

Does the Constitution trump the president, or the other way around?


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Subject: RE: BS: Pardoning the unpardonable
From: michaelr
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 03:31 AM

Excerpted from Forbes.com: The legal consensus of "nearly unlimited power" to grant pardons was formed in a world in which it was reliably assumed that the president would act reasonably and rationally and with due respect to the rule of law and the Constitution. Yet the question is now before us as to whether those assumptions can still be taken for granted.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pardoning the unpardonable
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 06:50 AM

I am not stunned by the staunch empathy free, stand your ground stance of the US conservative any more. At first the hateful rhetoric shocked and froze the liberal empathetic minds. The right selected leadership from the most heartless. Now it is required and is considered to be strength.

If empathy is a weakness I am severely handicapped. Social psychopathy is now a tribal requirement for racists and Nazis. I accept that. Its what Zombies do. Its what CEO's do. It is a minority of humanity but it has taken power before.

Arpaio is proud of his KKK roots.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pardoning the unpardonable
From: Greg F.
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 09:33 AM

Does the Constitution trump the president

Yes- or at least its supposed to.

However with a POS like tRump and his associaied POS cabinet, it appears the Constitution is out the window, and that the Republicruds think that's great, or the brainless, gutless wonders would be raising a stink.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pardoning the unpardonable
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 08:16 PM

email From the Jesuit America Magazine:

    Miami archbishop: If Arpaio gets amnesty, why not undocumented immigrants?
    Michael J. O'Loughlin
    August 30, 2017

    Archbishop Thomas Wenski of Miami has a question for President Trump: If Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio is deserving of leniency after he broke the law, why not extend the same mercy to immigrants living in the United States illegally?

    "What's good for the goose is good for the gander," the archbishop told America during an Aug. 29 interview. He noted that opponents of extending amnesty-like programs to the estimated 11 million undocumented people living in the United States often point out that they broke the law by entering the country and therefore should be treated as criminals.

    Archbishop Wenski asked, "If Arpaio can be pardoned, why can't the irregular immigrants be pardoned?"


Good idea.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Pardoning the unpardonable
From: EBarnacle
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 12:14 AM

Consider that POSUS is pardoning Arpiao for doing what he has done--ignoring orders from a federal court. He's just being consistent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pardoning the unpardonable
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 04:05 AM

Consider that POSUS is pardoning Arpiao for doing what he has done--ignoring orders from a federal court. He's just being consistent.

"Consistency is the hallmark of the unimaginative."
― Oscar Wilde

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
― Ralph Waldo Emerson

I knew I'd heard a good quote about 'consistency'. I was surprised when googling it Here just how many there were. (It was the Emerson one I recalled)


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Subject: RE: BS: Pardoning the unpardonable
From: leeneia
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 05:08 PM

I'd like to know what exactly "racial profiling" is supposed to mean.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pardoning the unpardonable
From: meself
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 06:12 PM

For example, making it a point and a practice to stop and question Blacks and Latinos who are minding their own business, while not bothering Whites who are minding their own business.


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