Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 04:15 AM

My grandmother,born 1897 and brought up in London, favoured the,"argue the ins and outs of a nags backside" variant.

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Aug 21 - 05:57 AM

My mum used to say, 'Wants to know the far end of a nags arse.' She was from Hodthorpe.

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Aug 21 - 05:17 AM

My family are North London and it was the ins and outs of a magpies arse that my Gran used to say. Everyone else in the South uses Maggots arse so it’s either regional differences or Gran getting it mixed up.

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Will
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 07:10 PM

I was raised in West Cumbria &it was ‘far end of a fart".

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Richard
Date: 29 Aug 18 - 07:16 PM

Jim Reeves apparently liked well proportioned women; "I love you big arse.."

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Aug 18 - 05:05 PM

I think the Derby Ram had a very big arse too............

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: C-flat
Date: 29 Aug 18 - 07:58 AM

".....the far end of a fart" on Teesside

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Some bloke
Date: 29 Aug 18 - 03:58 AM

I have been reliably informed that the lady in question with the big arse when I was a kid wasn't called Meg after all, but her mother was. As her mother died before I was born.. It's a bit like digging in manure into your allotment.

The plot thickens.

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Aug 18 - 03:48 AM

Old Meg she was a Gypsy if you want to know all about her!

I believe Old Meg is also the last stoop of corn deliberately left in a field. The eponomous Morris side told me that years ago, the fact of which, curiously, seems missing on their website.

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Michael
Date: 26 Aug 18 - 07:07 AM

As, I seem to remember, has been discussed before, 'black over ...'s mother's is quite common. In Derbyshire it was Bill's ma who lived there.

Mike

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Sol
Date: 26 Aug 18 - 06:56 AM

From a Google search I see that one version is "the ins and outs of a cow's arse" (as the cow's digestive system is very complicated). Can I suggest that Meg was a Derbyshire farmer's cow and the expression caught on.

Re. colloquial expressions, I used to know a chap from Manchester who would say "It's black over Bob's mothers" whenever there were dark clouds in the distance. I often wondered who Bob was.

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: rich-joy
Date: 25 Aug 18 - 11:12 PM

Wasn't Meg an ancient British goddess or sumthin??

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Alvaston Derby.
Date: 24 Aug 18 - 03:04 PM

We used to say "He wants to know the ins and outs of Megs arse and the road to it"

Youngie...

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,EnfieldPete
Date: 18 Nov 17 - 02:55 AM

My Mum from West London used to say 'He/She....wants to know the ins and out of a magpies arse and what it's stuffed with. Miss you Mum

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Nov 17 - 08:17 AM

He wants to know the ins and outs of the cat's backside was the one I used to hear in the Mancheter area.

Do they have a preoccupation with arse's in Derbyshire? The Peak cavern in Castleton is know locally as 'The Devil's Arse'. The only other saying from that area I am aware of is 'better to live in Hope than die in Castleton' :-)

DtG

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Mo the caller
Date: 16 Nov 17 - 05:39 AM

I came from dahn sarf (London W3)and I've never heard any of those. Curiosity killed the cat was the nearest.

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Nov 17 - 01:35 PM

My mother - a native of Lincolnshire and from a Brigg family - used to say of over-inquisitive individuals, "He/she wants to know the far end of a Meg's arse, and the roo-ad (road) up there".

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Nov 17 - 05:57 AM

In Cumbria its 'all the ins and outs of Mary's arsehole.'
Roger

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Nov 17 - 05:29 AM

mother from Yorkshire had a saying - he wants to know how many farts weigh an ounce?

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Some bloke
Date: 15 Nov 17 - 03:29 AM

As a kid in Creswell, I recall a woman behind the counter at Dicky Sam?s Corner shop was called Meg.

And she did have an enormous arse.

And it was in Derbyshire...

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Long Firm Freddie
Date: 14 Nov 17 - 01:03 PM

Dahn sarf we'd refer to someone wanting to know the ins and outs of a duck's arse.

LFF

Subject: RE: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: GUEST,Dave Hunt
Date: 14 Nov 17 - 08:58 AM

My mother - Black Country -used to say...'He even wants to know the engine drivers name'.. meaning the same thing

Subject: Derbyshire sayings origin - Meg's arse
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Nov 17 - 09:34 AM

Does anyone know the origins of an old Derbyshire turn of phrase?

He allus wants to know the Meg's arse of everything...

meaning he always wants to know all the fine detail, all the minutiae.