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Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes

Greenie 20 Apr 18 - 03:33 AM
Monique 21 Apr 18 - 02:44 AM
Harry Rivers 21 Apr 18 - 03:19 AM
Harry Rivers 21 Apr 18 - 03:51 AM
Stewart 30 Apr 18 - 11:06 PM
Stewart 30 Apr 18 - 11:22 PM
Monique 01 May 18 - 02:53 AM
GUEST,AndyM 01 May 18 - 09:38 AM
Andy M 01 May 18 - 10:13 AM
Tattie Bogle 01 May 18 - 05:44 PM
Monique 01 May 18 - 06:42 PM
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Subject: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Greenie
Date: 20 Apr 18 - 03:33 AM

I've recently discovered, via The Rheingans Sisters' version of Lo Segoner, the album Vriolonaires Pirenencs by Ad'ArrOn.

I know Ad'ArrOn have at least two more albums out there which I have ordered and they're are on their way.

Can anyone recommend any internet sites (pref. in English, my Oc is worse than my poor French!) that explore this music?

I'd like to play some of the tunes so directions to ABCs or dots would be appreciated.

I have Chris Haigh's French Fiddle tunes.

Thanks for your help - senescence compels me to look for short-cuts.

Kind regards
Greenie


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Monique
Date: 21 Apr 18 - 02:44 AM

I'm afraid there's not such a site in any language. Maybe you could contact them throught their Facebook page or one of their members Facebook page.


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Harry Rivers
Date: 21 Apr 18 - 03:19 AM

I doubt this is exactly what you're looking for, but there is this site:

English and French folk music

You may find a few tunes from southwest France.

Harry


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Harry Rivers
Date: 21 Apr 18 - 03:51 AM

Five fine examples (not fiddle, I'm afraid) on Jean Baudoin's website:

The Sound of the String Drum

I'll keep a 'Trace' on this thread . . . . I'd love to learn more about this tradition.

Harry


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Stewart
Date: 30 Apr 18 - 11:06 PM

Here's the score of Lo Segoner
as played by the Rheingans Sisters
transcribed from SoundCloud

and the midi file

Cheers S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Stewart
Date: 30 Apr 18 - 11:22 PM

try again

here's the score


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Monique
Date: 01 May 18 - 02:53 AM

Thanks Stewart.
I'm sorry to sound like a 1st grade teacher but it's "Lo" (singular). "Lo segonèr" means "The sieve".


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: GUEST,AndyM
Date: 01 May 18 - 09:38 AM

http://www.bouilleurdesons.fr/pierre-rouch/musique/matta-rouch/
This is the website of Pierre Rouch, musician and instrument maker who focuses on the music of his area of the southern Ariege part of Occitanie, and related music from along the Pyrenees. His two records with Matta Rouch have lots of great tunes, and the second has much regional info (in French). As a trad ear player he publishes no dots, and I have not found it easy to search out ways to learn tunes other than from records like this. By contrast if I wanted to learn Irish tunes from a french player....


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Andy M
Date: 01 May 18 - 10:13 AM

Following on from my post just now, and having listened to Lo Segoner by the Rhenigans and Ad'arron, I think you can hear that the music is absolutely for the dance. While it would look simple in notation, and be initially easy to pick up by ear, getting it right for dancing a Branle is the difficult bit!


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 01 May 18 - 05:44 PM

My French friends via the Linlithgow Twinning Association are avid fans of Nadau and his band, with many songs in the Occitane dialect (language?) I am not sure if these are traditional or more modern, but there is a wealth of videos on YouTube of the Nadau band. One which became a twinning event favourite is "L'Immortela" and I got to play the wee riff between verses as I also play button accordion! I have scores for several of the tunes/songs that Nadua perform (my own transcriptions) if anyone wants them just pm me.
L'Immortela


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Monique
Date: 01 May 18 - 06:42 PM

"L'immortèla" / "De cap tà l'immortèla" is not traditional at all, it was composed in 1978. Nadau means Christmas in Occitan (language, yes!).


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: GUEST,Greenie
Date: 02 May 18 - 09:18 AM

I've just bought the Rheingans Sisters' tunebook - @ £14 a little pricey for a small paperback but I'm sure the fun I'll get from it will long out-live the pain of the cost.

As well as the tunes they've composed themselves, there are several picked up on their travels and some collected from Anna's studies in and around Toulouse, including "Lo segonèr" . . . .   ABC below:

X:1
T:Lo Segonèr (Rheingans Sisters version)
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:G
G2 G2 G2 D2 | E2 E2 FE FA | G2 G2 G2 D2 | E2 E2 FE FA | G2 GF G2 D2 |
E2 E2 FE FA | G2 G2 G2 D2 | E2 E2 FE FA | G2 A2 B2 B2 |
B2 G2 AG AB | A2 Bc d2 BA | G2 B2 A4 | G2 A2 B2 B2 |
B2 G2 AG AB | A2 Bc d2 BA | G2 B2 A4 | B2 d2 B2 G2 |
AG BA G4 | DG BG A2 A2 | AG BA G2 A2 | B2 d2 B2 G2 |
AG BA G4 | DG BG A2 A2 | AG BA A4 | G2 G2 G2 FE |
F2 G2 A4 | G2 A2 B2 c2 | A2 BA G4 | G2 G2 G2 FE |
F2 G2 A4 | G2 A2 B2 c2 | A2 BA G2 AB | c4 B4 |
AG FE D2 FE | D2 D2 G2 AB | c2 B2 A2 AB | c4 B4 |
AG FE D2 Bc | d2 e2 d2 c2 | B4 A2 FA | G8 |


Need to be wary using Google's automatic translate when dealing with "branle" !!!!

Greenie


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Subject: RE: Ad'ArrOn - Trad Occitan tunes
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 02 May 18 - 08:00 PM

Thanks Monique: I suspected that Nadau's music was not necessarily traditional but it does seem to appeal to a lot of people, and it certainly worthy of a further look! (and hearing!)


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