Eurovision 2018

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 May 18 - 01:34 PM

Having now seen no more than 15 seconds of all finalists except Albania and the UK, whose songs were very good, I noticed that the drummer in the band backing the Albanian singer was wearing a toga, very much in the style of Lord Sutch's Savages in 1962-63 - he must have been a fan!!!

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 14 May 18 - 12:58 AM

Eurovision brings joy to millions...

A bunch of grumpy old elitist gits on mudcat bring joy to.... well.... anyone...????

.. just themselves then...


..the joy of feeling superior...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 13 May 18 - 09:33 PM

Aazed to see things change with the publicvs panel votes but can't really care less.

Bring back abba, brotherhod of man, bucks fizz, sandy shaw, dana...

And McGrath, I still can get through some of Dana's song, me being in late primary school at the time, and bits of the others mentioned.

And the Dana joke, why is she in hospital, as she suffers from all kinds of everything...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 May 18 - 08:31 PM

France's entry was the only one that took a serious look at the times. And wasn't a bad song either. One of the very few I can conceive of anyone singing in six moths.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 May 18 - 01:55 PM

That's what puzzles me too, Tattie.

Stanron, you responded to the question "do people really sit and watch this crap???" With the single word, "No". Now, seeing as it is well known that the viewing figures run into the hundreds of millions I do not believe you meant that literally. I just wondered what you did mean. No skin off my nose but I was just interested.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 13 May 18 - 09:58 AM

If it's that bad what are the non-watchers even doing on this thread? Thought they'd have given it a wide berth, just like the TV! ;-)

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 May 18 - 07:54 AM

Manure then!

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Stanron
Date: 13 May 18 - 07:28 AM

Dave the Gnome wrote: Stanron, do you mean they do not watch it or that it is not crap?

I did not watch it. Although the reference to ordure is not altogether inaccurate I would prefer it unsaid.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 May 18 - 07:10 AM

It is what it is.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 May 18 - 07:01 AM

I am a huge Jethro Tull fan as well, Bonzo, but we are talking 2 completely different kettles of fish there. If you don't like Eurovision that is fine by everyone. What is not fine and could be very hurtful to a lot of people on here and elsewhere is body shaming anyone on it.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 May 18 - 06:15 AM

I downloaded a Jethro Tull show from 1980 this morning, its magnificence outshines anything Eurovision - with the exception of The Shadows' "Let me be the one" in 1975 was it?

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Thompson
Date: 13 May 18 - 05:15 AM

I was up for the Israeli song - thought it was the most Eurovision-y. Connecting it to the horrible politics of Israel/Palestine seemed foolish - though the winner's acceptance speech - "I love my country… next time in Jerusalem…" made my skin crawl in the context of the current horrors.

Hungary had a song talking about purity of blood. Finland had kind of neo-Nazi-looking dancers. What the hell, Europe?

The rest seemed pretty anodyne to me.

The UK's continuing custom of having a UK-resident Irish commentator (previously Terry Wogan; now Graham Norton) who refers to the UK entry as "we" and "us" and the Irish entry as "they" and "them" is just nasty.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 May 18 - 04:26 AM

Stanron, do you mean they do not watch it or that it is not crap?

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 May 18 - 04:21 AM

There were too many strange sounds in the winning song which I could certainly do without but the sentiment of the real lyrics were excellent. The lines

Look at me, I'm a beautiful creature
I don't care about your "modern time preachers"

And

I'm not your toy (Not your toy)
You stupid boy (Stupid boy)

Certainly resonate with some of the more recent comments :-(

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 May 18 - 03:10 AM

My TV recording secretary records on freesat recorder, then we can fast foreward when the freaks appear!!!

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Stanron
Date: 12 May 18 - 10:32 PM

Bonzo3legs wrote: Christ allfuckingmighty - do people really sit and watch this crap???

No

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: robomatic
Date: 12 May 18 - 10:25 PM

Just watched the video of the Israeli entry.

Holy guacamole.

The singer reminded me of James Corden, a little bit.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Allan Conn
Date: 12 May 18 - 07:38 PM

I thought the winner was awful as were most of the songs. Most impressive thing being how folks fool the censors nowadays. "Mothabucka beat" wouldn't have been allowed in Katy Boyle's day.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 May 18 - 07:36 PM

So the Eurovision tradition of lyrics full of nonsense syllables is back, with a vengeance.

Boom bang a bang...Ding a Dong...Abi ni ba...Diggi doo diggi lay...
And now: Bucka-mhm-buck-mhm-buckbuck-buck-mhm toy

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 May 18 - 07:32 PM

Just because you don't get many of 'er to t'pound doesn't mean she's a freak. Twat.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 May 18 - 07:21 PM

Don't need it thanks.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 May 18 - 07:11 PM

hooray.. for diversity....

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 May 18 - 07:07 PM

Another freak wins - it seems

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 May 18 - 07:03 PM

We could always sidetrack it into an obesity thread...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 May 18 - 07:01 PM

So, Israel did it.

I liked the sentiment of the song. Not fond of the silly noises. Heaven help this thread now that Israel has been mentioned ;-)

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 May 18 - 06:44 PM

Tsk. I'll stick to the Irish Washerwoman on the mouth organ.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 May 18 - 06:31 PM

the political voting is getting nasty now..
world wars started over less than this..

if the bomb drops tonight while we sleep..

g'night... nice knowing you...


ps if we all wake up tomorrow. i liked Moldova... carry on europe...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 May 18 - 05:57 PM

thank christ it's not a football final..



[ooh.. i'm a stirrer...]

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 May 18 - 05:53 PM

Are the people who are complaining it is crap either

A) Watching it or

B) Not watching it?

Because, either way, it does not make much sense.

Albania for me btw:-)

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: The Sandman
Date: 12 May 18 - 05:41 PM

Christ allfuckingmighty - do people really sit and watch this crap???"
i agree

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 May 18 - 05:19 PM

Right. Germany, Ireland, Portugal. For sheer eye candy, Cyprus. Pass the corkscrew...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 May 18 - 05:15 PM

Bonz - yes... 2 bottles of wine drank out of a prosecco bong... 3 to go...
the wife is now ready to cast her vote.. I'm going for a pee...

that's how to do Eurovision at home on the sofa..

[errr.. but not the pee.. yet...]

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Will Fly
Date: 12 May 18 - 05:04 PM

Newsflash - UK Nazi grabbed the mic and shouted pro-Nazi slogan before being wrestled off stage...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 May 18 - 04:50 PM

Hungary - bloody Nora...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 May 18 - 04:28 PM

Christ allfuckingmighty - do people really sit and watch this crap???

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 May 18 - 04:26 PM

I liked the way Serbia made no effort to modify what they did to suck up to other countries.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 May 18 - 04:06 PM

Germany so far. Jeez, pass the mogadon...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 May 18 - 03:59 AM

Only skimmed the articles, Acme, but what I saw was pretty accurate.

Forgot to mention the political side of it but there have been some significant political statements in both the songs and the voting but I don't really want to turn this into yet another politthread!

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 May 18 - 10:08 PM

We're hearing about this a little bit in the US.

What It Takes To Write A Eurovision Winning Song.

Hungarian Metal, Israeli Pop, Dancing Robots: It Must Be Time For Eurovision

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 May 18 - 05:36 PM

Just got back from Morris practice and there was a program on about Eurovision. Only saw the last 10 minutes but caught what must have been the best quote about it I have heard.

"Anything that brings people together is good as there is so much that divides."

I may have paraphrased but the sentiment was that and I think it is very true.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 May 18 - 11:44 AM

"we call the other one Holby Citytitty!"

ROTFLMAO! Wish I'd thought of that! :-) :-)

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 May 18 - 10:58 AM

"Ha! Mrs Fenswoman and I call it 'Casual Titty'. ;-)"

We've been calling it that for donkeys' years too, and, in order to differentiate, we call the other one Holby Citytitty!

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 May 18 - 10:56 AM

"Ha! Mrs Fenswoman and I call it 'Casual Titty'. ;-)"

We've been calling it that for donkeys' years too, and, in order to differentiate, we call the other one Holby Citytitty!

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 May 18 - 10:32 AM

It's not been about the quality of songs for years, Kevin. It is the spectacle and kitsch quality of performances that does it for me. Having said that, I stand by my list of songs that escaped the (bad)quality control :-)


It was the asides that Wogan used to make on the performance and presentation that did it for me. Graham Norton is not bad but has a long way to go to beat the master!

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 May 18 - 10:29 AM

Maybe state of global economy..

but it looks as though most nations are trying their best not to win...???

Portugal probably regret winning last year...???

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 May 18 - 10:19 AM

There was a Latin American version between 1972 and 2000 called the OTI Festival. They wound it up, largely because of the poor quality of entrants. From what I've seen of this years songs that might be quite a good idea for us too...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 May 18 - 09:11 AM

I'd expect newspapers may be making as much political issue as they can about Russia being eliminated this year...???

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 May 18 - 09:01 AM

Sounds like I didn't miss much then :-)

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 May 18 - 09:00 AM

Well.. me and the mrs both nearly nodded off during it last night...

This has got to be the worst presentation and dullest bunch of songs for years...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2018
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 May 18 - 01:36 AM

Missed the second semi as well :-(

Want to give us an update PFR?