BS: Happy 70th Birthday to the Jewish State

Subject: RE: BS: Happy 70th Birthday to the Jewish State
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 17 May 18 - 02:04 PM

I certainly don't support the murdering hamas terrorists, whom I believe carrot head Corbyn does gladly support.........hey ho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Happy 70th Birthday to the Jewish State
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 17 May 18 - 02:36 PM

"Whose quote? NOT MINE."
If your quote came from the Jerusalem pot it was a verbatim repeat of the original Gatestone article
Which shows how low Israel has sunk
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Happy 70th Birthday to the Jewish State
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 18 - 02:39 PM

JC,

YOU never addressed the reasons I disagreed with you.



Gaza is NOT being invaded- Israel is. This is the pre-1967 truce line that supposedly Hamas want to go back to in a two-state solution- AND IT IS TRYING TO CROSS INTO ISRAEL.

The aggressor is clear -HAMAS- and using human shields and the blood of innocents to sway public opinion away from the facts.




Since you said NOTHING about them, I guess you agree with me. Right? Isn't that how you have always posted?

Subject: RE: BS: Happy 70th Birthday to the Jewish State
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 18 - 02:56 PM

No matter how often Hamas tells us that rioters on the Israel-Gaza border are armed, most of the media keeps referring to them as “protesters” and “demonstrators.” No matter how often Hamas acknowledges that rioters are part of a broader “war,” the media simply won’t report it as such. And no matter how often those rioters tell reporters they want to “kill” and “burn” Jews inside Israel, left-wing journalists and pundits still frame Israel as the aggressor.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy 70th Birthday to the Jewish State
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 18 - 03:00 PM

JC,

"my concern is that human beings should be able live in peace unmolested"


"called for peace from both sides,"

For the Israelis, this would mean letting the demonstrators overrun the border and kill all the Jews ( the stated purpose).(- RESULT: DEAD JEWS AND PALESTINIANS ;)


For the Palestinians, this would entail keeping back from the border and NOT attacking the Israeli troops, or throwing rocks, grenades, burning tires, et al. (- RESULT - NOBODY HURT ;My preference)

"But the fact is that if Hamas dropped its claim on Israel proper, and stopped using every opening provided to them to instigate violence, not a single person would ever have to die again in this war."


So WHICH side has control of "peace"?

ANSWER THE QUESTION.

Subject: RE: BS: Happy 70th Birthday to the Jewish State
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 18 - 03:22 PM

"According to The New York Times, “loudspeakers on minarets urged Palestinians to rush the fence bordering Israel, where they were met by army snipers.” The Washington Post reports that “organizers urged demonstrators to burst through the fence, telling them Israeli soldiers were fleeing their positions, even as they were reinforcing them.”

Which suggests that Hamas, the terrorist group that rules Gaza, incited protesters to dash toward Israeli military positions, likely knowing that many would be killed. Hamas leaders had to know that the carnage would ignite an international backlash against Israel and the U.S.

If Palestinian leaders want to know who is responsible for the deaths Monday, they should glance in the mirror.

That said, let’s also note that many of the demonstrators were peaceful. They came to protest what they call the nakba, or catastrophe: the creation of the state of Israel 70 years ago. They came to reassert their “right of return” to what is now Israel. They came to express their despair — as generations of Palestinians have. And they came to denounce the U.S. embassy switch.

But let’s be clear: Moving the American embassy to Jerusalem doesn’t preclude anything in an eventual Israeli-Palestinian peace deal. The fate of Jerusalem has always been part of negotiations between the sides, if and when they start speaking again.

A Palestinian state is not foreordained, however. Early in his term, President Trump shook up the Middle East status quo by declaring that he would not insist on the creation of a Palestinian state as part of a peace accord.

Leaders of the Palestinians have a choice: They can keep sending their young people to their deaths.

Or they can turn from violent confrontation to constructive negotiation. They can resume their path toward a Palestinian state.

Even as we write that sentence — expressing the hope for a two-state solution that we’ve repeated over and over — it seems more far-fetched than ever. The reality on the ground is that nothing will change until Palestinian leaders stop inciting violence and start telling their people the truth: Palestinians can have a state. But not until they accept that the Israel they loathe is in the neighborhood to stay."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-israel-trump-jerusalem-palestinians-20180514-story.html

Subject: RE: BS: Happy 70th Birthday to the Jewish State
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 17 May 18 - 03:45 PM

Instead of all this hate, try thinking...

Why Jews In Solidarity With Palestinians Will Win The Day

Subject: RE: BS: Happy 70th Birthday to the Jewish State
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 17 May 18 - 04:04 PM

Why on earth would anyone bother to answer your questions, BeardedBruce, when you pay no attention to the answers? Your dogmatic approach doesn't help threads, it kills them.