BS: America declares national emergency

Subject: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 07:02 AM

Its not because of mail bombs it is to confront a caravan of potential immigrants walking from Guatemala and will arrive at the border perhaps this year or next.

800 crack troops fresh from Afghanistan will spend the holidays waiting at he border with plans for 1,900 National Guard in reserve.
The last time we brought troops to the border only one suspicious person was shot and killed. An 18 year old American goat herder on American soil.

I do not know if we used troops to help with our last Hurricane but I doubt it. As national emergency declarations go, Irene Wilson from Tennessee is one who says she feels much safer now.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 07:24 AM

No President has ever used US troops on American soil before in defiance of the Posse Comitatus Act. It is much like Caesar's troops crossing the Rubicon. After all who would lie about a national emergency and troop deployment?

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Iains
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 08:05 AM

You have a link to substantiate claims of a national emergency?

The Posse Comitatus Act (1878)prohibited use of the U.S. Army to aid civil officials in enforcing the law or suppressing civil disorder.

Deploying troops to preserve territorial integrity is the raison d'être
for armed forces.

As Monty Python might say: "This is something completely different"!

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 08:28 AM

Trump Declares National Emergency

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 08:43 AM

Someone prepared to walk several thousand miles to get to a country, or alternatively to cross the Mediterranean in a rickety boat, is far more likely to make a positive contribution to the economy and society of that country than someone prepared only to sit on their backsides in front of the TV complaining about them.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Iains
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 09:00 AM

Yet another event just before the midterm elections.
Pure coincidence of course!

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 09:06 AM

In the book FEAR the job of informing the President there are some things he will have to walk back, is a job the entire cabinet takes turns telling the facts to Donald. It would otherwise be the job of the sec def. This story is not over.


In a somewhat related story C-Span is reporting numerous false websites are appearing that pretend to be a newspaper or a local TV station.
The FCC are not removing the sites but rate them RED or Green to let people know what is real and what isn't. The sites look perfectly real be it a CBS affiliate or other TV station, just the stories are bogus.


I want to congratulate Mudcatters for fully learning about ; whataboutism, vote suppression, false news sites, and the big lie.
They are not issues that are as simple as they appear.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 09:40 AM

Surprise! its October.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: meself
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 10:24 AM

"Yet another event just before the midterm elections.
Pure coincidence of course!"

So ... the evil George Soros arranged the Caravan so that ... so that ... so that he could get out the Republican vote? Wait - he did it so that he could get the Republicans all worked up and heading for the polls, so then the Democrats would get all worked up and head for the polls - do I have that right? And he sent himself a pipe-bomb so that Democrats would get scared of Republican pipe-bombers and go vote? Yeah, it's all starting to make sense now ... !

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 10:43 AM

You'd think if Soros arranged for the pilgrimage of refugees from violence in their own countries that he'd at least manage to help transport them over that 1000 miles left of the trip. But only Republicans believe such nonsense to begin with, and all of Trump and Pence's speculation that statistically there MUST be a terrorist in the group.

This is Trump grasping at shiny distracting straws. Pay attention to what he is trying to do to health care, to dismantle laws, to privatize public lands, and mainly, to enrich himself and his friends.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 10:59 AM

The first Presidential tweet that literally mentions the quote ["BOMB" stuff] urges Republicans are losing momentum and they should get out the vote. Nothing about the intended victims.

Funny he used parentheses. Its almost as if he knew they are...
naw he wouldn't telegraph any foreknowledge.


This whole scenario is resembling a Batman-Penguin episode of 40 years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 11:10 AM

I think its funny that the country is under a National alert (mail bombs) and a National Emergency that is taking a back seat.


btw    a person has been arrested and will be charged with sending mail bombs in 'Florids'.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 12:34 PM

According to the logic of Iains, the people in the caravan aren't central Americans at all, but disguised Trump supporters trying to stir up resentment against Democrats and Liberals. Though of course if they really did have the brains of Trump supporters they would have been in the foothills of the Andes by now.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 01:58 PM

"This is Trump grasping at shiny distracting straws. Pay attention to what he is trying to do to health care, to dismantle laws, to privatize public lands, and mainly, to enrich himself and his friends."

Bingo!

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Mossback
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:02 PM

TRYING TO DO? I think you mean to say has done.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Iains
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:11 PM

Well you may believe all these marching refugees just happened to join together at this particular time with no external guidance or encouragement. It is not a view I share.

Also is declaring anational emergency on twitter is one thing. Is there not some kind of formal procedure to be adhered to?

Declaration

NEA Section 201 authorizes the president to declare a national emergency. The proclamation of a national emergency must be immediately transmitted to Congress and published in the Federal Register.1,2 Under NEA Section 301, statutory emergency authorities enabled by the national emergency declaration cannot be exercised until the president specifies the provisions of law under which the president or other officials will act. Such specification may be made either in the declaration or in subsequent Executive Orders published in the Federal Register and transmitted to Congress.


Anyone seen such a formal declaration? or is it false news?

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Mossback
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:15 PM

Don'rt share that view? No surprise there, Iains- you're in Alex Jones' pocket.

Besides, Soros paid them all, dontcha know?

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:17 PM

Iains seems to buy into the conspiracy theory that the the refugees are in fact disguised Trump supporters.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Iains
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:25 PM

Actually I think someone organized them and is blatantly exploiting them for political gain and do not give a damm where they end up once they have served their purpose. Whoever they may be, they are not very nice people.

You can feed off the MSM if you wish, but I think today you need to dig a little deeper. A continuous diet of CNN, Fox and Sky do nothing to encourage critical thinking.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 02:30 PM

Sterling Mossback, There are several corrupt global deals Trump has miserably failed to close.

Money laundering for some Saudis and Russians
Malaysian diamond mine laundering with help of its prez and Milken.
Exxon Siberian oil drilling with help of Rex Tillerson.
Conflict diamonds in Africa - actually made it OK for US to buy with a Presidential order.


You can't win them all but corrupt deals are Trump's appeal

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 03:05 PM

"Whoever they may be, they are not very nice people"

You know them all personally, do you? Pot, kettle, black.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 03:53 PM

Iains knows his stuff. Yes there are formal procedures. They sometimes delay but do not stop the tweet's intent as in banning trans from military.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Iains
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 04:44 PM

Donuel,according to the USGS Minerals year book for Malaysia 2016 the production of diamonds was zero because as yet none have been found.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 06:38 PM

I know I heard a scandal about diamonds and the diamond mine owner that Trump appointed and has since quit, on the Rachel Maddow Show but its about a year ago and hazy.
So you got me. I think the scandal concerns Indonesia and its President meeting with Trump, but not Malaysia.

Geologically Indonesia is a good candidate for diamonds due to upwelling magma as in Siberia and Africa. One ought to find diamonds all around the ring of fire. Wanna prospect?

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Thompson
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 02:20 AM

Why are Americans so frightened of immigrants? It's one of these odd American fears (like "socialised medicine", which is basically using economies of scale to make treatment cheaper when people are ill) that baffles me.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: robomatic
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 02:32 AM

This is actually a re-run of the cycle of American anti-immigrant fear of past ages. The Know Nothing Party of the 19th century, the fear of the Irish, the Yellow Peril, the Italians, the Jews, it has been a re-circulating political football sometimes played as touch-down, other times played as keep-away.
It's pretty terrible, but it isn't that new, and it is not going to devolve into a neo nazi thing of any strength, it has simply gotten the hopes up of some really hopeless (as in mentally/morally/politically deficient) people.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Mossback
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 10:39 AM

Why are Americans so frightened of immigrants?

The majority of Americans aren't.

Its just the Trumpist racist cretins who get their information thru Fox News[sic] & associated batshit websites.

Unfortunately, cretins have been a growth industry in the U.S. for the last decade or so.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 11:42 AM

A mass shooter/s has killed multiple people in a Pittsburg Synagogue this morning. Cretins respondsible belong to a pro Trump group and communicate via the internet. 275 mass shootings like this have taken place in the US just this year. 8 dead and 3 officers are the casualties so far. If you have never encountered these people I did provide a link in the bomb thread of these conspirators.

It is happening the destruction of our country is really happening


What are you going to do in these situations. Most people will run or hide so there is no shame in that. You can stil report likely suspects that you have long suspected.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 11:49 AM

They are not hard to find https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/190903469/

https://www.ranker.com/list/conservative-blogs/blog-loblaw

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Mossback
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 12:19 PM

First Lady Melania Trump on Twitter:


    "My heart breaks over the news out of #Pittsburgh. The violence needs to stop. May God bless, guide & unite the United States of America."

Lady, talk to your fucking husband. And the fucking NRA.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 05:32 PM

When good people are silent Monsters emerge.
The silent are accessories and are not good.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 06:28 PM

And Trump says the synagogue congregation ought have been armed. For fucksake.

I lived about ten minutes walk from there once; most of my neighbours were Jewish. I doubt if they had a gun between them. Civilized and sensible people who could do without moronic condescending shit like that.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: meself
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 08:14 PM

A little later he was suggesting that more use of the death penalty would be the solution ....

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 18 - 10:00 PM

What ever you ladies and gentlemen write from now on,
is the first rough draft of history.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Oct 18 - 07:44 AM

The mass murder at Tree of Life Synagogue was only three blocks away From Fred Rodgers house which makes it Mr. Rodger's neighborhood.

Subject: RE: BS: America declares national emergency
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 18 - 06:47 AM

The LARGEST assasination attempt of politicians and presidents and the LARGEST massare of Jews in the USA is the real national emergency.
Conservatives used to have a staunch stoicism but have evolved into emotional drama queens with tears and raw rage.

Of course the British here feel insulated but it seems the Americans are pretending this is not happening. Silence is consent.

This not about me. This is about something larger than ourselves. We need a maturity and ability to defend our country against the bigotry. Yes we have enemies who love to disrupt, but either you are willing to reject the bigoty or join the emotional voices at the Trump rallies.

Stop making excuses over and over and over again. If the priorities are lost on you think of an America without your friends, freedoms or speech.