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St Paddy's in Paris

Jack Campin 15 Mar 19 - 12:12 PM
Tattie Bogle 15 Mar 19 - 01:11 PM
David C. Carter 15 Mar 19 - 01:52 PM
beachcomber 16 Mar 19 - 09:13 AM
Tattie Bogle 16 Mar 19 - 11:09 AM
Jack Campin 16 Mar 19 - 03:47 PM
Tattie Bogle 16 Mar 19 - 04:27 PM
beachcomber 16 Mar 19 - 07:54 PM
Jack Campin 17 Mar 19 - 02:00 AM
beachcomber 17 Mar 19 - 06:40 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 17 Mar 19 - 06:20 PM
GUEST 19 Mar 19 - 11:31 AM
Jack Campin 19 Mar 19 - 11:42 AM
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Subject: St Paddy's in Paris
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Mar 19 - 12:12 PM

I'll be in Paris on St Patrick's Day. I presume there'll be an Irish session somewhere. Ideas?


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 15 Mar 19 - 01:11 PM

Not sure if they have "jiney-in" sessions but have seen live acoustic musicians in some of the Irish pubs between Pigalle and Folies Bergeres (some years back now!) There was a Corcoran's, O'Neill's and one other.
Chatted to the one lot, who sounded Irish enough in their tunes, but were in fact French, and had learned the tunes on a 6-week foray around Ireland!


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: David C. Carter
Date: 15 Mar 19 - 01:52 PM

Stolly's Stone Bar

16 Rue Cloche Perce/In The Marais/Metro;Saint Paul,Line A.

There is also a Saint Patricks Day Parade.

This is the first time ever.It leaves from the Irish Cultural Center.

You can find all this on You Tube.

Have a good day.


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: beachcomber
Date: 16 Mar 19 - 09:13 AM

Tatie Bogle, are you sure that those French musicians were not Bretons. They have many tunes that are quite similar to many Irish ones. Many of them are passionate about their "Celtic" origins too.


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 16 Mar 19 - 11:09 AM

They may have been Breton or from some other part, but they did tell me (in English, tho' I speak French)that they were playing Irish tunes learned in Ireland. I know there are similarities with some of the tunes, especially the more minor key and modal ones.


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: Jack Campin
Date: 16 Mar 19 - 03:47 PM

There is essentially zero relationship between Breton music and that of other "Celtic" nations. It has much closer links with music from other French regions, just as Scottish and Irish music are more closely related to English music than anything that's been given a bullshit ethnic label. You wouldn't have a prayer of figuring out the Irish trad repertoire if all you knew was Breton song and dance tunes.

Ethnic fantasies make for crap musicology.


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 16 Mar 19 - 04:27 PM

Cheerful as ever, Jack! Let us know how you get on, and any great new discoveries for my next trip to Paris!


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: beachcomber
Date: 16 Mar 19 - 07:54 PM

Funny that, Not in fantasy, I have heard Breton fiddlers play both their own and Irish music. Going on what I heard, they did sound very similar in some tunes ? As our former Taoiseach was reputed to have said. "We know now that it is so , in practise, but, does it comply with the theory ??? " :-)


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: Jack Campin
Date: 17 Mar 19 - 02:00 AM

Not looking good for parades in Paris after what happened yesterday - maybe the CRS will have some appropriate green teargas. The pub in the Marais looks good.


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: beachcomber
Date: 17 Mar 19 - 06:40 AM

There will be others !


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 17 Mar 19 - 06:20 PM

More Than Biased

With intoxication at 0.05 Uber and Lyft excell.


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Mar 19 - 11:31 AM

I've heard French music from the midlands where every invading force from the Romans forward and back was resisted, which sounded very like Irish music. A lot of French Canadian musicians play Irish tunes too, and they tend to visit France.


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Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Mar 19 - 11:42 AM

In the end I didn't go to Scolly's - reading between the lines on their website it looked like it would be packed with young drunks. I'm sure there were less commercial things going on, but you'd need a bit of time there to find out.


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