BS: Don't be ashamed of impeachment

Subject: RE: BS: Don't be ashamed of impeachment
From: Iains
Date: 14 Dec 19 - 09:52 AM

An alternative screed makes compelling reading


https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-war-of-the-narratives/

Subject: RE: BS: Don't be ashamed of impeachment
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Dec 19 - 08:19 AM

Come to that we never got to the bottom of WMDs and Blair.

Did we ever get to the bottom of the Roger Casement case. Were the black diaris forged?

Our secority services do their own thing. I couldn't believe Thatcher stayed out of jail over the Spycatcher business. From her strenuous efforts to get the book banned, I don't think she could believe she'd get away with it either.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't be ashamed of impeachment
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Dec 19 - 08:08 AM

A presidential pardon only applies to federal crimes. A preemptive pardon a la Ford/Nixon would provide no protection from state charges. If the state of New York has enough evidence to pursue tax evasion charges against Trump, there's nothing anyone on the federal level can do about it. Only a state's governor can issue a pardon for state crimes, and the chances of Andrew Cuomo pardoning Trump are nonexistent.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't be ashamed of impeachment
From: Mr Red
Date: 14 Dec 19 - 06:29 AM

The attempt at impeachment will fail in the senate, and only embolden his followers, even if it is a warning shot to him (all bets are off on that!).
Well, not to be too Brexitist about this, but experience tells us, and I was right the first time (in this parish). Re 2020.................

"Be afraid America, be very afraid"

Subject: RE: BS: Don't be ashamed of impeachment
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Dec 19 - 10:22 PM

Not now. Once he's out of office, if anyone decides to pursue the cases, he's toast. Unless someone pulls a Gerald Ford and pardons him just to avoid all of the trauma of the trial. At least Twitter could probably close his account, that would be enough torture for the putz.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't be ashamed of impeachment
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Dec 19 - 06:56 PM

It is. But we can't throw the bastard in jail is what I'm saying.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't be ashamed of impeachment
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Dec 19 - 06:53 PM

well its a reckoning.

Subject: RE: BS: Don't be ashamed of impeachment
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Dec 19 - 05:52 PM

Sorry, Al, but impeachment hasn't got anything to do with the US legal system. Even if found utterly guilty, yer man can't be fined or imprisoned. He can be removed from office and that's it.

Subject: BS: Don't be ashamed of impeachment
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Dec 19 - 05:20 PM

I can remember at the time of Nixon being threatened with impeachment, I was talking to an American friend, and he said he was bitterly ashamed of his country and what was going on.

I remeber saying to him that he shouldn't be ashamed. In fact it showed that the legal system of his country worked.

Furthermore I was willing to bet that if any Prime Minister in England had been up to dirty dog tricks, i am pretty sure that MI5 or some shadowwy organisation like that would hush it all up.

In a way it showed that they had a more open society than us.

What do other people think?