Tune Req: German drinking song in movie help ID

Subject: Tune Req: German drinking song in movie help ID
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jan 21 - 11:34 PM

Hi, I have another tune ID request from a Pasolini movie. This time it is The Decameron. It sounds like a German drinking song, probably from the 19th century. It is 49:05 in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATS6IXhkiXk

I'm not sure about the lyrics but this is what I hear.

>??? Junge mann. ??? min uber allen. Junge mann gefallen. Bruder???? frauen treue??? stammen ???? Junge mann gefallen.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: German drinking song in movie help ID
From: MudGuard
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 10:49 AM

I tried, but the song is so far in the background, I can't catch the words, nor recognize the song.

The spoken words in the film seem like a mixture of a romanic (Italian/Spanish), a Slawic (Russian/Polish/Slowakish/Czech/Kroatian/...) and some German-like (Dutch/Platt/German/Swiss...) language.

Andy a/k/a MudGuard (from Munich, Germany)

Subject: RE: Tune Req: German drinking song in movie help ID
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 03:36 PM

It is a southern Italian dialect and musical style. Monique may know more.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: German drinking song in movie help ID
From: Jack Campin
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 04:47 PM

The dialogue just before the song is in Hungarian. I think the song itself is German(ic) but can't make much out.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: German drinking song in movie help ID
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 06:27 PM

It definitely sounds to me like the last word of the song is "gefallen" so I have been searching for folk songs with that word at the end of the chorus.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: German drinking song in movie help ID
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 06:28 PM

Jack, the uploader ripped the film from Hungarian TV with Hungarian voiceover. The original film is, of course, in Italian.

The Decamerone is about a pandemic, thus very relevant indeed. Just imagine the Internet broke down, e.g. through sabotage by conspiracy theorists ...

Subject: RE: Tune Req: German drinking song in movie help ID
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 06:38 PM

Wikipedia tells us that the language of almost the whole film is Neapolitan dialect (whereas Boccaccio's book is set in the countryside outside Florence).

Now we need someone who knows those thousands of Neapolitan folk songs - or who spends more time searching the Internet. My faith in Monique is strong, but not unlimited.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: German drinking song in movie help ID
From: Helen
Date: 01 Feb 21 - 06:58 PM

If it is the monks who are singing, is it possible that the song is by Carl Orff of Carmina Burana fame?