BS: alternative education

Subject: BS: alternative educational approach
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 05:09 AM

To Sir with love revisited bbc prOgramme

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b007wjxg

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 08:04 AM

Is that where pupils learn alternative facts?

DC

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 10:21 AM

If you listen, all will be revealed.your attempt at making a flippant remark illustrates that you have not listened

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 11:39 AM

I think it's about E R Braithwaite's outburst during an interview about his book. (He died at the age of I think 104 in Maryland, but was from British Guyana originally)
He felt that the film starring Sidney Poitier concentrated on the school (St George's Stepney) and not enough on his own life.
Also, some of the teachers who also taught there at the time were shocked at the false impressions given about the ethos of the school. They don't remember the lack of discipline or chaotic teaching methods that are described.
I'm interested, being a retired schoolteacher having taught in a very deprived area, and married to a black man who has his views on opportunity and attitudes towards black people here in UK.

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: Thompson
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 11:52 AM

Fascinating programme about the school that was the original of the book and later film To Sir With Love. The original school, St-George-in-the-East, was run by an extraordinary educator, Alex Bloom, who taught (in a time when autocracy and corporal punishment were the norm in British schools) with a policy of friendship and respect towards children, and an absence of competition or prizes. Here's a piece about the school and headmaster.

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 12:04 PM

Oh Thompson, well done! That explains it all very well. A very innovative approach to secondary schooling in those days.
Education is an extremely difficult thing to get right. The aims should be a well-rounded young person with confidence, a wide knowledge of a variety of subjects, ability to continue to learn after leaving school, social skills, it goes on and on.
It gets very difficult when the pupils are from deprived homes where there are no good role models, areas where crime and anarchy are rife, psychological, personality and mental problems, it goes on and on too!
I bet Steve will have lots of interesting comments to make, as he was a teacher. Such a complex topic!

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Feb 21 - 01:41 PM

Not only that, in the seventies Mrs Steve taught for years at Ben Jonson primary school in Stepney and I taught just down the road in Poplar, at St Philip Howard secondary school (that one no longer exists). We lived in a council flat in Poplar for several years (in Robin Hood Gardens, now gone, but famous as an example of post-war brutalist architecture, and I understand that a lump of it now resides in the V&A). All human life was there...

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Feb 21 - 03:08 AM

I would recommend the book To Sir With Love.

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Feb 21 - 03:11 AM

I'd recommend Lulu...

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Feb 21 - 03:25 AM

Lulu was great in that film, I first saw it in The Studio cinema in Borehamwood, where incidentally "Elstree Studios" were situated nearby!!

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Feb 21 - 03:39 AM

To Sir, With Love is a 1959 autobiographical novel by Eustace Edward Ricardo Braithwaite born in 1912 known as E. R. Braithwaite set in the East End of London. The novel is based on true events concerned with Braithwaite taking up a teaching post in a Greenslade school there. The novel is composed in 22 chapters with every possible detail which give a remarkable insight into the politics of race and a class in postwar London.

In 1967, the novel was made into a film, To Sir, with Love, starring Sidney Poitier and Lulu, and the film's title song became a number-1 hit that year. The setting for the film was changed from post-war London to the "swinging sixties", and, notwithstanding its success, Braithwaite had ambivalent feelings towards it, as he admitted in an interview with Burt Caesar conducted for a 2007 BBC Radio 4 programme entitled To Sir, with Love Revisited (produced by Mary Ward Lowery).[1] Also in 2007, the novel was dramatised for Radio 4 by Roy Williams and broadcast in two parts, starring Kwame Kwei-Armah.[2]

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Feb 21 - 12:00 PM

There is a lesser known movie sequel..

Subject: RE: BS: alternative education
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Feb 21 - 12:38 PM

To Sir, with Love II (1996 TV Movie)