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BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson

Donuel 13 Jul 21 - 08:45 PM
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Mr Red 14 Jul 21 - 02:42 AM
Steve Shaw 14 Jul 21 - 03:07 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 08:45 PM

I remember the pilot who died flying the Branson spaceship.
The co pilot is crippled for life. Its worth an honorary mention.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 08:50 PM

If Steve used a weapon to rob a bank I would NOT praise him... if he used a kitten to rob 3 banks I would praise him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Mr Red
Date: 14 Jul 21 - 02:42 AM

You'd have to go a hell of a long way from Earth to be even close to truly "weightless,"

Well now. The ISS achieves something that you cannot gainsay, because whatever you argue, the error will be unmeasurable, by you. And most people. And while we are being pedantic, and measuring our weight in ato-Newtons, could we point out that Earth's pull on orbiting objects varies around the circumferencial because of mascons eg around Hawaii. The alleged thing that slammed into us and produced the Moon, it is postulated, left a denser lump of mass in the Earth. NASA knew to calculate for this very early on. Earth is not a sphere per se, nor a perfect oblate spheroid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jul 21 - 03:07 AM

Well it's easy enough to knock someone down by quoting half of their sentence, leaving out the vital caveat. As for the rest of your post, call me Mr Thickie but I don't know what you're on about.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jul 21 - 07:45 AM

Mr. Red is engaging in ultimate hair splitting. Where do you draw the line between force and distance? We fudge it.


technically we don't share identical gravity even at sea level due to density differences. At an altitude of 1 mile air density will be a greater factor than less gravity and immensly more than time slowing.

everything effects everything to a point.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: robomatic
Date: 15 Jul 21 - 05:29 PM

"Everything affects everything" is a blandishment that allows anyone to say anything. The effect is to diminish the relevance of anything that someone says.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Mr Red
Date: 16 Jul 21 - 02:50 AM

mascon
gravity anomaly


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: robomatic
Date: 20 Jul 21 - 05:11 PM

And now our Jeff has gone and returned alive with his passengers. A good time was had, but it was "dark".

I think I'd think about it if I could have an espresso while I was up there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 21 - 06:58 PM

robo its a good way to succinctly say gravity is forever. How close you want to look is a decision, not a boundary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jul 21 - 07:06 PM

A billionaire does a vanity "space" flight lasting ten minutes. On so many levels it's just bloody obscene.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: robomatic
Date: 20 Jul 21 - 10:15 PM

He did it cheaper than NASA. He had the oldest and the youngest passenger sent into space to date, and his own (Bezos') brother. The rocket booster that carried the capsule self landed separately. You could see how little was required to sent the payload up, as the rocket was narrower than the capsule with the passengers (none of them was in command of the flight). It was made to look far easier than it truly was.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: robomatic
Date: 21 Jul 21 - 01:26 AM

"Jim, you can't show that on CBS!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 21 Jul 21 - 01:38 AM

The Mekon is out there laughing his head off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 Jul 21 - 03:17 AM

Gravity sucks


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: robomatic
Date: 21 Jul 21 - 10:51 AM

A buddy of mine when his kids were real young, had a couple of T-shirts made for himself and wife that said "Fight Entropy". He had one made for each of his kids that said "Support Entropy".


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: robomatic
Date: 22 Jul 21 - 03:24 PM

Bezos in Space - "I coulda been a contender"


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 21 - 06:45 PM

billionaires in space


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 07:15 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T39XgrKXUwU&ab_channel=NovaraMedia


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jul 21 - 12:11 AM

That last video, from PFR, mentioned that Bezos' rocket was hydrogen and oxygen. I thought it was pretty quiet, considering, but I do not know what the recording conditions were. And certainly a rocket to orbit would be considerably larger.


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Subject: RE: BS: Billionaires in Space: Bezos $v$ Branson
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jul 21 - 02:48 PM

Relative to the size of a normal schoolroom globe these guys went several millimeters above Earth.
Musk has plans for Mars which in relative terms is a mile away.

Sometimes you can almost see the Kamen line as in this photo


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