Where have your songs cropped up?

Subject: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 23 Jul 23 - 07:20 AM

With the arrogance of youth, I rewrote the tune for 'The poor old couple' back in the stone age (well 1978) and put it on an L.P. The song turned up in 'Poldark' a few years ago complete with my tune. Has anybody else had surprising reprises of their work? I bet there are a few stories to tell.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Jul 23 - 04:35 PM

Jim McLean and Pat Cooksey have great stories about where their songs have cropped up.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Anne Lister sans cookie
Date: 26 Jul 23 - 05:50 PM

My nephew Rhys has just heard one of his songs on the background of Love Island. (He's not remotely a folkie, mind)

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Jul 23 - 04:53 AM

Strangely enough, now I am 74....I feel just the opposite these days. I used to like it, that one of my songs ('Rummenigge') in various obscene variations was being sung on the terraces at Bayern Munich and Inter Milan. And then when aline dance album with three of my songs turned up in the remaindered bin on garages throughout the land, and then later in the Words bookshop, I liked that.

Nowadays I feel like Id like to be expunged from history.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Mo the caller
Date: 27 Jul 23 - 03:16 PM

Did any of you get royalties?

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 27 Jul 23 - 04:15 PM

No not I!

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Jul 23 - 05:16 PM

I still get royalties from Rummenigge, but not from anything else much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKu98Xvyfd8&list=RDRPOQbebv-J0&index=4

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jul 23 - 11:20 PM

Al, I know you would like to receive a bit of rightly-deserved income from your songs, but please remember that a few of us are in your thrall.
Contact us, and we will give what you ask. We will do what you need us to do.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 08:03 AM

I remeber Richard Grainger telling us he was in a museum where one of his songs was playing. The staff member he asked told him it was a traditional shanty! :-D

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 02:01 PM

nice of you to say Joe. I do appreciate the nice things you say about my stuff. However, I'm 74. Luckily I live in a country where the living is relatively easy for most of us. Theres nothing much that could ever happen that would alter the quality of my life - which is fairly good.

Very few people on the English folkscene enjoyed my efforts at being an entertainer, but I've really nothing to bitch about. I worked with a drummer one time and he said a very wise thing because one of the band was getting very diva-ish,
'If you can't handle rejection, you can't handle this job.'

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 02:07 PM

A few years ago, I was reading a review of a Vin Garbutt show in Adelaide in one of the Southern Australia newspapers, and it mentioned Vin’s performance of a song that I had co- written with one of my band-colleagues. I was very flattered indeed when I read that the song was one of the best songs Vin had written!

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 04:44 PM

That's nice Backwoodsman, It must be great to have one of the folk stars perform one of youe eongs.

Which one was it?

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 05:18 PM

I’ve PM’d you, Al.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: PHJim
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 09:13 PM

A jig that I wrote a number of years back sounds very Irish, but because I wrote it on a January 25, I called it "Robbie Burns Day". I played it a few times at a local session and I started hearing that it was being played sessions in other cities. When I Googled it, I found a very professional sheet of music for my tune credited to "Joe Yates". I contacted the person who published it and he made the changes.
It has been recorded twice; once by a Peterborough group called "Freshwater Trade" and once by a wonderful fiddler, the late "Zeke Mazurek".
There was even a question on Mudcat asking about who had written the tune.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Tom Patterson
Date: 29 Jul 23 - 04:24 AM

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Tom Patterson
Date: 29 Jul 23 - 04:29 AM

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Tom Patterson
Date: 29 Jul 23 - 04:35 AM

Apologies for the last 2 errors. I don't know what happened!
Tom Lewis's Sailer's Prayer was used by the composer of the music for the film Swallows And Amazons. The composer thought it was traditional.(See Tom Lewis's website Sept 2016 for more details)

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 29 Jul 23 - 05:49 AM

How many times has that happened.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 29 Jul 23 - 06:05 AM

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 08:03 AM

I remeber Richard Grainger telling us he was in a museum where one of his songs was playing. The staff member he asked told him it was a traditional shanty! :-D quote

He later married the staff member who was Jeanette Grainger, the song was the Whitby Whaler, A song that I recorded with him on a duo recording, during the recording he told mea variation of that story,The story he told me was that it was on a plaque in the building as traditional, anyway they lived happily ever after

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 29 Jul 23 - 08:12 AM

That's a fine song Backwoodsman. And we all should give Vin's version a listen on Youtube. It is available to everyone. I have put a like and left a comment

Like yourself Vin knew a good song. I always loved the lost and found song by Harvey Andrews that you do.

heres The Fallen of Fulstow,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXQ4Gj7arrE

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 30 Jul 23 - 03:36 AM

could you post the lyrics please

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 Jul 23 - 08:19 PM

I remember Derek Brimstone telling me he once heard his version of John Martyn's Fairytale Lullaby in the background - a radio playing in Heartbeat.

Trouble is with that sort of thing you can't watch every crap programme on the offchance on the remote possibility they might be using you. I think Derek got two hundred quid.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Anne Lister sans cookie
Date: 31 Jul 23 - 04:16 PM

On the other side of things, I have today been told that one of my songs has had a number of streams (Spotify, Google and Apple) in a number of countries over the last quarter and accrued about £5 in payments. Except that this is a song which I have never recorded, so I'd love to know what was being streamed. At the moment it all remains a mystery ... I'm seeing it as some kind of recompense for the whole streaming thing, and of course a fiver isn't nearly enough for that.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 31 Jul 23 - 08:05 PM

I don't quite understand the system but can you not find the recording and play it? It sounds like somebody has recorded you in a club or online.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Anne Lister sans cookie
Date: 01 Aug 23 - 08:16 AM

There is no such recording, Nick. I wrote the song in (I think) the late 70s but haven't performed or recorded it.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Aug 23 - 08:29 AM

theft!

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 01 Aug 23 - 10:39 AM

Spotify is painfully inaccurate at giving correct credits: very often they will attribute a recording’s lyrics and tune to the artist singing it, whose name may be the only correct part of it!
I have done quite a lot of tune arranging, writing harmony parts, notating song tunes, etc - not for any commercial purpose, just to play in our sessions and maybe the occasional amateur concert. I usually put the original composer’s name on the score, and sometimes my initials for the harmony part(s). More than once I’ve been handed a score sheet to play from, which was in fact one of my own arranging!

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Anne Lister sans cookie
Date: 01 Aug 23 - 05:59 PM

I've googled the title, and the title with my name on it, and all that comes up anywhere is a traditional song (which my title is taken from). So this is a real mystery. No one can have recorded the song as it really has only lived in my folder of unrecorded material for some decades. And yet the list of streams on Spotify, Apple and Google cover a number of different countries. Oh well. As I said, it's only a matter of a fiver, so it's not exactly a major issue.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Aug 23 - 07:12 PM

One Of Life's Little Mysteries?

spend the fiver wisely.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 02 Aug 23 - 02:17 AM

Weird. Beats mine and Poldark.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 02 Aug 23 - 02:17 AM

Weird. Beats mine and Poldark.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 02 Aug 23 - 02:17 AM

Weird. Beats mine and Poldark.

Subject: RE: Where have your songs cropped up?
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 02 Aug 23 - 02:18 AM

That was even more weird! Why did the same post go on three times? This PC is haunted.