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Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 25 Apr 24 - 05:06 PM But seriously, Donald has some good lawyers right now. They are advancing a 3 pronged Goldilocks defense. Simply, He didn't do anything, nothing happened. If something did happen it was Michael Cohen. If it all happened the election was just a coincidence. There is something for everyone. They just need one juror to say "that defense is just right". |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 25 Apr 24 - 12:36 PM Make America Grovel Again NOT with another insurrection, civil war or Trump presidency but with a Two State Solution; Any State that wants Trump to be their leader for life may do so in their own nation called the Real America. They may not receive any funds from the USA. They will be subject to high tariffs and fees to travel outside Real America. THEY WILL BE SUBJECT TO STRICT IMMIGRATION LAWS. All holdings outside Real America will be nationalized by the USA. I don't think they could get 3 States to join the Real America. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 25 Apr 24 - 10:56 AM The fake electors recorded themselves as the dumbest criminals who posted their crimes on Facebook. THE TRUMP SUPREMES CAN'T RULE THAT Trump can order the National Guard to murder a Supreme Court judge so they will send it to a lower court for more research, which is all Donald needs for delay. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Apr 24 - 10:29 AM The Supremes are hearing the case about Presidential immunity this morning. Trump is having a busy morning (he can't go to that court to hear this, though he said he should, because he's in criminal court. Poor baby.) D. John Sauer (Trump's attorney) has the worst case of vocal fry I've ever heard. Or the worst voice I've ever heard. It's like nails on the proverbial chalkboard. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 24 Apr 24 - 11:39 PM Arizona grand jury indicts 11 Republican 'fake electors' who falsely declared Trump won the state in 2020 "In short: Eleven Republicans have been charged with conspiracy, fraud and forgery for falsely declaring to the US Congress that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential election in Arizona. "Arizona is the fourth US state to bring charges against "fake electors". "What's next? The names of seven more people indicted will be released after they are served with charges, state Attorney General Kris Mayes said." .... "The grand jury indictment also describes an unindicted co-conspirator who is clearly Mr Trump." |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 24 Apr 24 - 10:57 PM https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/congress-passes-law-banning-non-disclosure-agreements-in-sexual-harassment-cases |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 24 Apr 24 - 06:00 PM I might be wrong but this trial is in the same dingy courtroom where Weinstein met his fate. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 24 Apr 24 - 05:10 PM Diet Coke creates a real biochemical addiction. Every time they have a hearing on Trump defying his intimidating vengeful remarks against gag orders, he does another one. It's like he is always one gag order hearing away from another one. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: gillymor Date: 24 Apr 24 - 02:12 PM At least he's not awake for the flatulence. That Fox News quote reminds me of the old saying "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Apr 24 - 01:58 PM It also means he can't drink Diet Coke all day long, hence feeling the caffeine shortage with his nodding off. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 24 Apr 24 - 01:14 PM A Trump lawyer said "This is a kangaroo court" Fox News says this trial is cruel and unusual since Trump is gagged with no free speech and is not allowed to move around 8 hours a day, 4 days a week. That sounds like a part-time job to the rest of us but Trump is old and being sedentary is hazardous to his health. If a golf course is Trump's natural habitat they have a point. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Apr 24 - 11:50 AM It sounds from the reporters that the judge is getting really tired of the defense nonsense and trying to introduce topics that were already discussed, settled, or excluded. The whole prospect of the jury may be told to disregard things they are hearing but they will still hear it. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 22 Apr 24 - 03:16 PM Quote of the year, from Trump's attorney Todd Blanche: "There's nothing wrong with trying to influence the election. It's called 'democracy.'" |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Apr 24 - 02:27 PM The news channel this morning reported on juror issues, someone needs to go to the dentist (is that an identifying element that will put them at risk?) and another was feeling nervous about being part of the process. Waiting for blow-by-blow accounts of the trial, since it isn't broadcast, isn't endurable. I'll tune in tonight for a recap. As it progresses we'll figure out what parts are worth watching for during the day, if any. Apparently Trump spent just about as much on attorneys fees as he took in in donations last month (his supporters aren't wise to where their money is going? It isn't supporting candidate activity.) He's grousing about needing to be in Georgia and Florida for some of those proceedings. Poor baby. Shouldn't have participated in criminal activity, then his time would be his own. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 21 Apr 24 - 04:14 PM Ah, lightbulb moment Stilly! The (Oz) ABC article I read showed Scaramucci's opinions fairly clearly but then I was doubting his motives because of your comments. I didn't do more research on him myself. The article stated that he left the Trump administration within three weeks so he made that decision very quickly. The rest of the information in the article seemed to support his ongoing disapproval of Trump and his determination to take action to try to stop his re-election. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 Apr 24 - 03:11 PM MaJoC I think you're right - the zeal is real, so to speak. I started reading more about him (articles and Wikipedia) and went down a rabbit hole that eventually took me to reading the history of the program Wall Street Week (it sounds like a tortured investigation but the short answer is that Scaramucci's bio says that he hosted that show for a while after the program changed and Rukeyser left). And summing his political history briefly, he has gone back and forth between the two major parties. He has been busy and at times controversial, but unless there is a defining event that somehow isn't appearing in these articles I'm reading, I must have conflated his name with some other Trump ally. Of the two, Scaramucci would be a better source of information than the convicted Avenatti. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 21 Apr 24 - 07:52 AM Unlike other insiders, Scaramucci has been speaking out forcefully against Trump since 2019. He helped form a pro-Biden super-PAC in 2020. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 21 Apr 24 - 03:29 AM I vaguely remember hearing Scaramucci's name in in the dark old days of Trump's reign, but he probably thinks he can get away with saying anything over here in Oz. He probably thinks we are in an information backwater. While his opinion is still that he doesn't want Trump back in power, I'll agree with him, but...it probably won't take long for his opinions to change, I'm guessing. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 21 Apr 24 - 03:23 AM Zeal of the convert, Stilly .... ? |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 Apr 24 - 01:04 AM Scaramucci may be saying that Trump was awful and discussing the other denisons of the White House, but he's not a reliable narrator. He is now saying what we all knew at the time, but in the day he was riding high and promoting his awful causes. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 20 Apr 24 - 11:09 PM Ok, thanks for the heads up. I guess we should enjoy his current views while they last, then, before the next wave of opinion rolls over him! LOL |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Apr 24 - 09:23 PM Anthony Scaramucci can't be trusted as a source no matter how much time has passed since he was in the Trump domain. Another one not to trust as a source of information in recent interviews is Michael Avenatti, who was the attorney for Stormy Daniels (until he stole $300,000 from her and was imprisoned). He has been heard recently opining on the Trump case and dissing his former client. Self-interest from both creeps. Don't give them oxygen. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 20 Apr 24 - 06:29 PM Donuel, I totally agree with your post 20 Apr 24 - 03:50 PM. The insanely wealthy people are calling the shots for the real people. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 20 Apr 24 - 03:50 PM The USA is now a two tiered country that gives 100 billion in corporate welfare and makes everyone else pay for it. We have replaced ambition with envy, replacing intolerance with hate. The country is seething with resentment while Wall St. games win every battle. Average people are told that the enemy are immigrants or a evil political party and sadly are easily manipulated into believing it. When this rigged system is at its worst we have a mean spirited TRUMP HEAPING LIES ever higher. Trump knows that his belief in a killer instinct has helped his self interest. But deep down he is an insecure coward. His extreme cowardice must be exposed to discredit him and his lies. How that is done is our homework for today. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 20 Apr 24 - 03:27 PM An article worth reading from an interview on (Oz) ABC Radio National: Anthony Scaramucci on the US election and what happens if ex-boss Donald Trump wins "Anthony Scaramucci is part of a long conga line of people who worked in Donald Trump's White House and then turned on their former boss. "Scaramucci had a very brief tenure as White House communications director in 2017, and after what he saw from inside and outside Trump-world, he doesn't mince words. "Trump was a 'disaster', someone who 'didn't do the homework', an 'impetuous' leader 'reeling from one potential crisis to the next', he tells [Oz] ABC RN's Global Roaming. "Perhaps his biggest zinger: The 45th president was 'an orange wrecking ball'. "And although some recent polls show a neck-and-neck race between Joe Biden and Donald Trump in November's US election, Scaramucci believes Trump will lose — and lose soundly. "But should Trump prevail, 'The Mooch' has a warning for America and the world. "'[Trump is] an incredibly dangerous guy. I'm a lifelong Republican [but] I'll be working very hard against him over the next seven months,' he says." .... "By Scaramucci's estimates, there are around 40 fellow Trump White House alumni 'that are denouncing him and begging the American public not to allow him to return to the presidency'. "'It's my job, alongside my friends who love the country, to put patriotism first and partisanship last, and work hard to make sure that he doesn't win,' he says. "'[So] I'm going with the older, slightly forgetful guy as opposed to the lunatic.'" |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 20 Apr 24 - 04:25 AM That's funny, BWM! How to get rid of lawyers: 1. Make them wait to get paid; 2. Fart them out of the courtroom. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Backwoodsman Date: 20 Apr 24 - 04:21 AM Mrs Backwoodsperson has just seen on ‘X’ a report, allegedly from ‘very credible sources’, that when Tr*mp dozes off in court, he farts. Living up to his name! His legal team are apparently struggling with the obnoxious odour of his gaseous emissions. The ‘X’ post says he’s being referred to as ‘Rip van Stinkle’. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 19 Apr 24 - 06:56 PM true story: An old lady prospective juror was asked if she could be fair and impartial. "Of course to the facts but as to anything Trump says I would not believe it even if his tongue was notarized". |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 19 Apr 24 - 04:30 PM If the conspiracy lad had used gasoline instead of alcohol he would not have survived the trip to the hospital. He was not a partisan or MAGA |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 19 Apr 24 - 04:09 PM The Trump bond is a fraud? More information: Trump's $175 million bond questioned by New York AG, hearing scheduled ---mudelf |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Apr 24 - 02:15 PM New York Times article.
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Apr 24 - 02:12 PM Just as jurors and alternates were empanelled someone outside the building apparently lit himself on fire. Man apparently sets himself on fire outside courthouse where Trump is on trial Apparently a screen view of inside for some in the reporter pool went blank at about the same time that the outside event happened. From the ABC story A man apparently set himself on fire outside the New York City courthouse where former President Donald Trump is on trial. Rely on the New York Post to have a video of the fire. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Apr 24 - 05:40 PM A jury of 12 and one alternate have been seated. Tomorrow they select the remaining 5 alternates. The judge isn't allowing Trump and his team to know who the first 3 witnesses are; he isn't trustworthy so they won't do it. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 18 Apr 24 - 02:57 PM A popular Fox anchor earlier described the first dismissed juror and said "This nurse scares me if I'm Trump." https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-juror-quits-over-fear-155749123.html |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 18 Apr 24 - 12:40 PM A second empaneled juror has been excused over concerns about his anonymity. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Apr 24 - 11:52 AM On Tuesday when seven jurors were seated the news media gave out demographic information to the extent of male or female, and what their jobs were. That was enough to have one of those seven ask to be excused today, that she feared her identity would be revealed. And along with excusing her the judge instructed media outlets to no longer give the job, neighborhood and or employer information. One man interviewed on MSNBC this morning said he was excused because he is an artist who has satirized Trump for years. He thought he could be objective but figured as soon as they sussed out his work they would get rid of him as a juror. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Apr 24 - 08:41 PM That was the Murrah building in Oklahoma City. Garland certainly seems to have taken his time, but I wonder how much of the delay had to do with legally weeding out all of the embedded (like a tick) MAGA Justice officials added during the Trump era in order to be able to do any work. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 17 Apr 24 - 05:02 PM Looking back I have seen how and why the indictments have come so late. Berman the AG in NY was ordered by federal AG Bill Barr to drop the investigations regarding Trump. Berman refused and Barr then falsely announced Berman had resigned. Berman responded that he has not resigned and that Barr had lied. In the end President Trump fired Berman. Regarding why Merrick Garland was reticent to bring Trump indictments goes all the way back to when he was a young AG in OK during the bombing of the Muir building by Timothy McVeigh and others. 28 years ago soon after the OJ Trial and well after Ruby Ridge and Waco, 2 blunders by a militarized ATF, Merrick Garland had a dilemma of going after the entire neo nazi right-wing conspiracy or just Timothy Mc Veigh as a lone bomber. Garland chose the easiest path then and now. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 17 Apr 24 - 07:24 AM Rubber neckers are a hazard on the highway and possibly on social media but the trial has suspense anyway you cut it. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 17 Apr 24 - 06:58 AM Are there any cynics here? There are opinions, insights, and chronicling journalists in this thread. I explore the first two for the most part along with insider humor and Stilly deals mostly with the chronicling of journalists. We all know the obvious win for Trump with a hung jury. The Teflon Don had 3 hung juries. Trump needs just one. I suspect low information folks are most likely to feel phantom victimization and conspiracy by the 'man' but are not actual cynics. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Backwoodsman Date: 17 Apr 24 - 02:36 AM ”On Monday, conservative media personality Clay Travis sent the following tweet to his one million-plus Twitter (X) followers: 'If you’re a Trump supporter in New York City who is a part of the jury pool, do everything you can to get seated on the jury and then refuse to convict as a matter of principle, dooming the case via hung jury. It’s the most patriotic thing you could possibly do.'" Since prospective jurors are under oath at voir dire, Travis is urging perjury in federal court for the sake of "patriotism" and "principle." Seems to justify my post of 15th April, 12:06PM… ”It’s unusual though, Manitas - it’s certainly doesn’t seem to provide the same kind of jury-rigging opportunity as in the US from what I can gather.” |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 16 Apr 24 - 10:43 PM Voir dire can be used to strategically put a leader on a jury that will have great influence over others who may be led like sheep. Hiring a firm to scour the history of people in a jury pool is not illegal. Jus saying that it may look like the lawyers are doing the deciding but probably not. The mob would simply threaten a jury member or two. Now there is practically a spooky neuroscience devoted to jury selection in big cases. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 16 Apr 24 - 12:24 PM "On Monday, conservative media personality Clay Travis sent the following tweet to his one million-plus Twitter (X) followers: 'If you’re a Trump supporter in New York City who is a part of the jury pool, do everything you can to get seated on the jury and then refuse to convict as a matter of principle, dooming the case via hung jury. It’s the most patriotic thing you could possibly do.'" Since prospective jurors are under oath at voir dire, Travis is urging perjury in federal court for the sake of "patriotism" and "principle." |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Apr 24 - 11:35 AM Biden won't be sleep inducing in court ever, Sandman, because he isn't breaking the law and won't be tried like Trump. Today again Trump is apparently nodding off. The demographics of the New York City jury pool (according to MSNBC's Steve Kornacki reviewing the last presidential election) are 76% voted for Biden, with Manhattan alone coming in at 87% for Biden. The Trump attorneys are hoping for a lot of jurors from Staten Island where Trump did best (but still didn't win.) |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Charmion Date: 16 Apr 24 - 11:04 AM It is possible to judge a loathsome person fairly, but it takes a high degree of self-discipline to stay focussed on the facts of the case and the nature and quality of the evidence. That said, I'm glad I'm not in that jury pool. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 16 Apr 24 - 06:50 AM "Wow, so much..." Sleep is one thing but cognitive decline is another. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: The Sandman Date: 16 Apr 24 - 02:55 AM All politicians play to their supporters. It must be difficult to find an impartial juror, much as i dislike Trump,how can he have a n impartial trial. I would think watching Trump in court would be LESS SLEEP INDUCING than watching Biden |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Apr 24 - 10:38 PM If he wants to attend his son's high school graduation and have Wednesdays off he has to cooperate and let things move along. Does Donny really want to go to a high school graduation? Probably not - that's more playing to the supporters. (I wonder where Barron will go to college? Melania has been a very involved parent from what I can tell - will she have an opinion that has him doing something other than the rest who went to U Penn?) One thing I can empathise with as far as Trump's day in court - I'd be falling asleep in there also. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 15 Apr 24 - 06:04 PM Back to the topic, more than half of the nearly 100 prospective jurors answering a preliminary questionnaire today were dismissed for saying they weren't impartial. The remainder have to be questioned by the attorneys. |
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Apr 24 - 05:42 PM Back to the case at hand, please. MSNBC will be talking about this in detail all evening with their best and brightest. |
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