Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 22 Mar 24 - 07:16 PM

Just as I imagined: hoist by his own petard! Publicly, with nowhere to run and hide. Funny!

If a novelist wrote this as fiction it would be panned as unbelievably unlikely in the real world, but here it is IRL. :-D

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 07:19 AM

Methinks he'd be (or at least sound) much calmer if someone took away his caps-lock key. From this nerd's viewpoint, he honestly reads like he's thinking in Fortran 4. (I leave making the connection with Monopoly as an exercise.)

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 08:00 AM

Not unexpectedly, the question of whether he "has" the "cash" is more complicated than it sounds:


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-stares-down-first-derailment-100029573.html

Takeaway: even if he has it, he may not be able to use it.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 04:57 PM

Agent Orange announced today, to a crowd in Dayton OH, that ‘Biden beat Barack Hussein Obama’! WTF?

And he has the temerity to claim that it’s Biden who has dementia…

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 05:49 PM

Donald Trump is yet to choose a running mate for the US election. Who will he pick as his possible vice-president?

The preamble for the article says, "A gun-loving grandma, a former Democrat and a MAGA frontwoman — who will Donald Trump pick from his long shortlist of running mates? And will his pick be based on strategy or aesthetics?"

The list of potential VP's discussed in the article:
Kristi Noem, Tim Scott, Tulsi Gabbard, Nikki Haley, Tucker Carlson, Vivek Ramaswamy, and some others.

[Tucker Carlson?? OMG!]

My bet is he'll pick a woman with a style and looks to which he is attracted. He's not so good on choosing and consistently following through on strategy, IMO.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 07:13 PM

He should pick somebody who's so much worse than he is that he'll never be impeached again.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 07:43 PM

I find it really hard to believe he would have a woman for a running mate, for some reason.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 09:40 PM

Well keb, my bet is that he would choose her to look good next to him in photos, rather than her fantastic political abilities. LOL

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 24 Mar 24 - 01:47 AM

Well somebody has to look good in photos, and it’s sure as hell not him.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 24 Mar 24 - 02:06 AM

Well BWM, he looks good in this video:

Life Accordion To Trump

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 24 Mar 24 - 02:25 AM

LOL! I’ve seen that before, it creases me up every time! :-)

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 24 Mar 24 - 02:32 AM

Me too. Even after 7 years.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Mar 24 - 07:46 AM

Trump bracket

This election has no 11% undecided voters. Instead we have 22% double haters who don't want either guys.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Mar 24 - 11:03 AM

Since these videos appeared Trump has stopped doing this.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 24 Mar 24 - 02:00 PM

I think he has stopped the accordion move too. I did see a clip a few days ago but I think it was an old one, not recent.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Mar 24 - 07:09 AM

Delay has always been Trump's best strategy.
Therefore I see him declaring personal BANCRUPTCY.
That would delay everything including asset seizure by a year or more.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 25 Mar 24 - 01:39 PM

Donald Trump's bond reduced, deadline extended as court delays possible seizure of assets

"A New York court has significantly reduced the amount of money Donald Trump must pay as bond to avoid having his assets seized, and extended the deadline for payment.

"The appeals court has agreed to hold off collection of the former president's $US454 million ($694 million) civil fraud judgment — if he puts up $US175 million ($268 million) within 10 days.

"If he does, it will stop the clock on collection and prevent the state from seizing the presumptive Republican presidential nominee's assets while he appeals.

"The development came just before New York Attorney-General Letitia James was expected to initiate efforts to collect the judgment."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Mar 24 - 03:15 PM

The amount of time he is spending in court and with lawyers is increasing month by month; the idea that the RNC is going to be paying his lawyers must be galling to non-MAGA mainstream Republicans. The down-ballot races this year that won't be supported will push more and more of them from the party.

McConnell was one of those GOP folks who must have imagined that they could easily manipulate Trump to accomplish the things they'd strived for; it's the plot of Sinclair Lewis's 1935 novel It Can't Happen Here. It's what the powerful in Germany thought they could do with Hitler. People who refused to learn from history are in danger of repeating it again.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Mar 24 - 07:24 PM

I am wrong about bankruptcy and a delay of the hush money trial.
I hope I am not wrong about his losing the election.
I believe the bond reduction does not reduce the original judgment but I am on a wrong streak so my crystal ball seems broken.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 25 Mar 24 - 09:42 PM

Would a narcissist declare bankruptcy? It would be a major public declaration of his own financial failure. Narcissists don't declare their failures to the world. And, it would put him in a double bind. He needs to use his available funds for his political campaign but he would not be able to use them if he is declared bankrupt.

Damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't! :-D

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Mar 24 - 11:02 PM

The fear is that if they only collect 40% of the amount now that Trump will never honor the rest of the debt. You know he'll resist ever paying it.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 01:19 AM

Of course he'll resist paying it, but the option should still be there to seize some of his assets if necessary. As I understand it, the bond required now is for his appeal to be heard. If he is still found liable after that, he will owe the full amount. If by some divine - or diabolical? - intervention he is found not guilty and therefore not liable, then he can save his money to pay the exorbitant lawyers' fees and the other legal obligations he has already and hopefully will continue to accrue for his other legal cases.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 11:43 AM

He has to make the appeal soon, he doesn't have a typical 9 months.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 01:22 PM

Comment from someone in the New European: The Democrats had better not rely exclusively on the court cases stopping Tr*mp, but had better campaign hard in other more conventional ways. The margin between "we need do nothing" and "there's nothing we can do" looks to me as if it's wearing worryingly thin.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 02:58 PM

Everyone needs to stop reading polls and giving them credence. They need to campaign as if their lives and livelihoods and the Democracy depend upon it.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 04:24 PM

As preposterous as it sounds Trump says to his TV audience "I am one of you". Well he is if you were given 40 million bucks at 21 and you were pathological.

His Supreme Court is going to blow back on him regarding their abortion decisions.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 05:17 PM

Remember that Biden won by only something like 100,000 in swing states.

If those states had gone just as narrowly for Trump, he'd be president now.

Never mind the millions more popular votes that Biden got nationally.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 05:55 PM

Yup. That electoral college and the gerrymandered districts in some of those states both need to go. And the Congress cut off the number of representatives added probably 100 years ago, but for the states with really large populations that makes a lot of work for their elected officials.

Things need fixing, but they won't happen this term, and they won't happen next time if the Senate changes hands or if the House stays with the GOP. All the stars must align (and not so closely that the Joe Manchins of the world can mess everything up.)

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 24 - 06:28 PM

Here's a rundown of her tenure at MSNBC.

Ronna McDaniel, the onetime head of the Republican National Committee who helped former President Donald Trump spread lies about the 2020 election, was axed from her job at NBC News on Tuesday, just one week after her hiring was announced.

McDaniel was ousted following a meeting of top executives from NBC amid growing backlash to her hiring last week. McDaniel used her position as the RNC chair to spread falsehoods about the 2020 presidential election, and continued calling the election results into question even after thousands of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

“Every one of us knows we can never let what we saw in 2020 happen ever again,” McDaniel said during her party’s summer meeting in August 2021. “Democrats waged war on election transparency, security and integrity — undermining our elections, and we at the RNC are using every tool at our disposal to protect the vote.”

Creative Artists Agency, which helped broker the deal to bring McDaniel on as a political analyst for the network, also cut ties with McDaniel on Tuesday, Variety reported.

There's more at the link. Rachel Maddow spent half of her airtime last night talking about it. If Rachel or Lawrence or Nicole or Joy are unhappy, they aren't going to bite their tongues.

I look forward to learning what kind of brain fart had executives at MSNBC hiring her to begin with.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 04:25 AM

Trump is good at blowing his own trumpet

Subject: RE: Trump SPAM ALERT make america pray again
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 06:51 AM

Trump is now selling altered bibles!
(it includes the Constitution and leather flag)

He is also selling pieces of the suit he was wearing when indicted.

I believe it is against biblical law to alter, amend, or add to the Bible as stated in the book of Ezekiel.

His pieces of suit sale remind me of cutting up and selling the Shroud of Turin or selling crucifixion nails.

His bible sells for $60 plus shipping.
His suit pieces have varied pricing.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 07:55 AM

It's "The only Bible endorsed by President Trump!"


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-selling-god-bless-usa-172605915.html

God has waited a long time for his endorsement.

Recent Trump supporter: "The hand of God is upon him, and he cannot be stopped."

Read more:
https://www.amazon.com/President-Donald-Trump-Son-Man/dp/1977249752

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 08:41 AM

”It's "The only Bible endorsed by President Trump!"

Makes a change from selling snake-oil.

”Recent Trump supporter: “The hand of God is upon him and he cannot be stopped.”

More likely the hand of Satan. Do Americans really fall for this kind of hog-wash?

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 09:16 AM

24% will always fall for it.
Be it Alex Jones lying about no kids shot at Sandy Hook just to sell his vitamin supplements or Trump's lies to sell his brand,
there are too many con man bad boys selling their line of lies.
Religion is just the oldest con. Even science and academia sometimes take a page from religion for grant money.

It is possible that you have a figure in which you are willing to sell out, most people do. And they often go dirt cheap.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 09:43 AM

Trump says in one of the blips that it's his favorite book and he has them all around the house.

You can't make up this stuff.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 11:11 AM

Who falls for such bunk?

Smart people, people with poor listening skills, people who believe in self-referenced sources, people who believe a personal acquaintance over a distant source, people who believe in the loudest shouter, and people who hear the most repeated message.

It's easy to have a narrow bandwidth with listening and actual understanding. We have different confirmation biases. It's easy to get sidetracked and miss the point or accept anything at face value.
You are likely to believe anything that you are already conditioned to accept, While hypnosis can be used for brainwashing it falls outside the above parameters.

Anger makes people defensive and blocks interaction except for arguing against a misinterpreted premise.

TRUE LISTENING DOES NOT CREATE COMPLIENCE. It makes for more rational understanding be it a response to a positive or negative narrative.

LISTENING WELL is hard work. It's easier to be lazy.
Poor listening begets more poor listening.

P.T. Barnum said a sucker is born every minute. Thats BS.
Its more complicated than that.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 11:35 AM

According to U.S. population growth figures, its more like four per minute. (Estimated.)

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 28 Mar 24 - 11:07 AM

I'd have to check Ezekiel, but I know John the Divine put in a "thou shalt not tinker with this text" clause at the end of Revelations. (He may, of course, have been quoting.)

Perhaps the earliest known copyright declaration :-) ? I know the Revised Standard Version was copyrighted by its compilers, with great reluctance, to stop it appearing in altered (per)versions, as had happened in the past.

Meanwhile, back at the point, one of the medieval saints complained that there were enough pieces of the True Cross doing the rounds to make a ship, or perhaps an entire fleet. Methinks there'll be enough pieces of the True Suit going around to clothe a navy.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Mar 24 - 11:45 AM

Trump is today trying to get the Georgia case thrown out on the basis of his First Amendment rights. Doesn't matter if he said was a lie, the best remedy, according to his lawyer, is the truth, not prosecution.

Trump Trials Clearinghouse

Trump's Georgia election subversion case faces key hearing - from CNN, it looks like a story that will be updated.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Mar 24 - 01:29 PM

I'm starting to see why the religious right believes Trump has divine intervention on his side.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 28 Mar 24 - 01:40 PM

Well, Donuel, is that because he is attempting to intervene in the divine text - as MaJoC cleverly said, "altered (per)versions" of the Bible? :-)


US judge backs disbarment of ex-Donald Trump lawyer, John Eastman, for alleged election interference

"In short: A US judge has recommended a former lawyer of then-president Donald Trump lose his California law licence over attempts to keep Mr Trump in power after the 2020 election.

"Joe Eastman faces 11 disciplinary charges in the state bar court stemming from his attempt to create a legal strategy which then-vice president Mike Pence could use to interfere with the certification of President Joe Biden's victory.

"What's next? The judge's recommendation now goes to the California Supreme Court for a final ruling on whether he should be disbarred.

......

"State Bar Court of California Judge Yvette Roland's recommendation, issued Wednesday local time, will go to the California Supreme Court for a final ruling on his disbarment.

"Mr Eastman can then appeal the top court's decision.

"His lawyer, Randall A. Miller, didn't immediately respond to an email from Associated Press seeking comment on the decision.

"Mr Eastman faces separate criminal charges in Georgia in the case accusing Mr Trump and 18 allies of conspiring to overturn the Republican's loss in the state."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 28 Mar 24 - 02:55 PM

"They have persecuted this man so much, but he always emerges triumphant."

That's what "many people are saying."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Mar 24 - 05:06 PM

Funny how similar the verbal heft of "persecuted" and "prosecuted," but the one that matters is the second.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 05:26 AM

btw John Eastman was Judge Clarence Thomas' clerk.
All Thomas interns and clerks share strong racist attitudes.
Clarence insists his staff must share his own attitudes.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 07:32 AM

> attempting to intervene in the divine text

I was surprised that the Bible he was holding up on That Photoshoot didn't catch fire. Perhaps it was a copy of the Wicked Bible, which amongst other things happened to omit "not" from "thou shalt not commit adultery".

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 09:17 AM

Woo Hoo the comedy styling of Steven Colbert and PRESIDENTS Clinton, Obama, and Biden was very funny last night. It should have been televised but some of the jokes about Trump may have been over the top for prime time.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 09:57 AM

How Trump Paid $100 Million in Legal Fees is a short video with graphs and charts showing how he has been doing it.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 10:20 AM

Con skills with money is one of his best strengths.
Paying off debts with special poker chips was one of his clever cons.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 10:23 AM

Don I've heard about the event but video wasn't allowed by participants - is Biden releasing clips? I'd love to see the end with all of the aviator glasses. (Trump must be seething. Good.)

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 12:50 PM

500!