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MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3

Donuel 07 Apr 24 - 07:08 PM
Stilly River Sage 07 Apr 24 - 04:14 PM
keberoxu 06 Apr 24 - 07:27 PM
Rapparee 06 Apr 24 - 04:40 PM
keberoxu 06 Apr 24 - 10:50 AM
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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Apr 24 - 07:08 PM

With my vintage mixer I am making natural casing pastrami dogs.
Its 4 parts minced pastrami and one part Nathan's hot dog.

Today was nice with iconic puffy clouds so we went for a long walk down to Turtle Pond but it felt like it was uphill both ways.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Apr 24 - 04:14 PM

Anything interesting happening out on the golf course? Have you set up a golf ball vending machine at your back fence?


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Apr 24 - 07:27 PM

I seem to remember, Rapparee, that you live in
what you called the "banana belt" of Idaho.
So, along with the snow,
I hope there are soon flowers to enjoy, like crocuses.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Apr 24 - 04:40 PM

I went with a friend for a nice long ride this morning. Lots of snow up in them thar hills 'round hyar.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Apr 24 - 10:50 AM

Thinking of you, Rapparee.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Apr 24 - 03:57 PM

The wax of my memory was scraped and melted for a couple of months. Right now, a drain will be installed next Tuesday and then plugged to stop the continued leak of cerebral-spinal fluid. The leak is considerably slowed but not yet stopped.   My life seems to be one medical thing after another right now.

Gluon dropped by and tried to console me with a fresh tokamak.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 03 Apr 24 - 06:39 AM

> I can remember lyrics I learned fifty years back, but not
> things that happened three weeks ago.

The wax of the tablet of memory gets hardened with age. Once you've seen it all, nothing new makes much of an impression.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Apr 24 - 06:44 PM

I awakened from a nap and picked up a book — and there was a reference to Eleanor of Aquitaine. This triggered another memory and I quietly sang all of “Quen Eleanor’s Confession.” Odd. I can remember lyrics I learned fifty years back, but not things that happened three weeks ago.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 07:32 AM

The world's burnin at both ends
but we're waking up slowly
News is a game of pretend
and the best liars are holy

Change has always been this way
but were waking up slowly
Morning feels like a new day
The same old thing is phony

When you're waking up slowly
think of one thing you can change
and then just go out boldly
and do it even if its strange


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 02:37 PM

Well, the city golf course workers starting to clean up after the heavy snow three weeks or so back.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 06:38 PM

Yes, but didn’t stay long. Barely long enough to hump my leg eight or ten times.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 10:45 AM

Rap, has Gluon been by to see you lately?

QUARK!!!


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 07:38 AM

> I keep getting signals from the universe, they're incoherent.

Are you a radioastronomer, Rap? it's the only field I've been in where noise is the signal, and coherent signals are the noise.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 06:03 AM

I cannot say that I know you well
But you can't lie to me with all these books that you sell
I'm not trying to follow you to the end of the world
I'm just trying to leave something behind
Words have come from men and mouse
Oh, but I can't help thinking that I have heard the wrong crowd
When all the water is gone my job will be too
So I'm trying to leave something behind
Oh, money is free but love costs more than our bread
And the ceiling is hard to reach
Oh, the future ahead is broken and red
And I'm trying to leave something behind
This whole world is a foreign land
We swallow the moon, but we do not know our own hand
Oh, we're running with the case, but we ain't got the gold
Yet we're trying to leave something behind
My friends, I belive we are at the wrong fight
And I can not read what I did not write
I've been to his house, but the master is gone
Yet we're trying to leave something behind
Now there is a beast who has taken my brain
You can put me to bed, but you can't feel my pain
When the machine has taken the soul from the man
It's time to leave something behind
Oh, money is free but love costs more than our bread
And the ceiling is hard to reach
Oh, the future ahead is already dead
And it's time to leave something behind
Now, I've got this feeling that I'm still at the shore
And pockets don't know what it means to be poor
I can get through the wall if you give me a door
So I can leave something behind
Oh, wisdom is lost in the trees somewhere
Oh, you're not gonna find it in some mental gray hair
It's locked up from those who hurry ahead
And it's time to leave something behind
Oh, money is free but love costs more than our bread
And the ceiling is hard to reach
When my son is a man, he will know what I meant
When I was just trying to leave something behind
And I'm trying to leave something behind
Source: Musixmatch
Songwriters: Sean Rowe


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Mar 24 - 01:09 PM

I did, over a cuppa with Steve Hawking at Kings one afternoon. We came up with the whole lack hole thing. I did the thinking and he did the math.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Mar 24 - 09:06 AM

Only two tidbits of innovative cosmology have become apparent to me this decade. 1 is that the inflation theory is far from what we are led to believe leading to a much older universe than we deduced from background microwave radiation.
2 is that black holes are space-time generators.

There is a meme that says if you don't contribute a major discovery by 30 you never will. The problem is too many people believe that is true.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 24 - 07:03 PM

The new physics we need to be open-source is actually almost a hundred years old. Much of that tech was explored by Thomas Thompson Brown Who died in 1985. Electrogravitics was one of his inventions that used high voltage low current science. The last 20% of this video explains his contributions. An explanation how UFO's work.

Sorry but classified info is often approached obliquely.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 24 - 12:14 PM

My favorite mashup movie is on, The Day After Strangelove On the Beach.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Mar 24 - 08:40 PM

I keep getting signals from the universe, they're incoherent.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Mar 24 - 11:39 AM

Knowing Rap, I suspect he required his surgeon to use one of the fine steel weapons he has in his collection at home.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 08:12 PM

Trephination refers to the process of creating a hole in the skull and, in specific cases, the nail and is one of the oldest surgical procedures documented to date. It has been used throughout history with the goal of relieving pressure; managing symptoms of head trauma, such as subdural and epidural hematomas; and accessing brain tumors. Trephination can be performed using a trephine, a drill, by scraping with an abrasive instrument, or for the hard headed, cutting with a jackhammer. Rare complications that may arise with trephination include infection and, if the dura matter surrounding the brain is damaged in the process, damage to the underlying blood vessels, meninges, and brain. Modern medicine has used trephination as part of treatments for frontal sinus disease, glaucoma, and subungual hematomas.

Newagers believe that Akashic memories and signals from the universe are enhanced with trephination.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 05:00 PM

The main thing is, you're home, Rapparee. You are a survivor.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 03:44 PM

Surgery for chronic subdural hematoma. Four burr holes drilled. Drainage that messed up the tidy operating room. 3.5 weeks rehab, still going on but at home.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 07:52 AM

It's great the pressure is off and you're home again.
Kate Middleton has had a rough time of it as well.
That's not to say you are not one tough cookie, a jaw-breaker, and a survivor extraordinaire. Mom would be jealous.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 07:02 PM

From what he told me it wasn't hyperbole. Sounds uncomfortable!


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 06:48 PM

Rapparee, what was that earlier post about getting holes drilled in your head? Was that BS or not?
Good to see you back, your silence had me worried.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 06:28 PM

Good to see you back. You'll have to whip this thread into shape - too many folks want to come here to argue.

And Gilly - Passive/aggressive my ass - just bad spelling.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 05:56 PM

Quark! Quark! Quark!


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 08:58 AM

Hi Mom! Yesterday they let me out of the hospital after 34 days in durance vile.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Mar 24 - 11:42 AM

dyslexia is a different door to perception that can have savant aspects but fails at school regimes. It is also a gift with negative externalities. Imagination and dreams make for poor science but truly great leaps do come from imaginative unlikely places in rare circumstances. These leaps are not intuitive and are often not accepted for years.

IF YOU TRY TO GRAVITATIONALIZE THE QUANTUM WORLD, people would think you are nuts since no one has succeeded with quantum gravity. However, if you allow macro gravity to convert to an electrical potential of a pair of gluons in the quantum world we may have united some important theories. Just look at dust bunnies that coalesce by electric charge or asteroidal dust that combines.

All energies seem to have the ability to exist in another form whether it is mass and energy or a neutrino which can metamorphose into a different neutrino. This notion would simplify many energy relationships. But in the meantime since we can't even find evidence for supersymmetry this idea will be put on hold.

Everyone who looks at it agrees that quantum mechanics is incomplete.
Finding its form of gravity will not complete its nature. Science has been called the new religion. It is true that most of it can be as dull as church. A great breakthrough will probably have to bypass administration.

Such a breakthrough will probably demonstrate that converting space into time may exceed the energy that converts mass into energy.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 12:34 PM

The connection between art and science is particularly evident to me lately. Trial and error with experimentation separates imagination from truth. It is a slow but accelerating process.

There is such a chasm between intelligence and wisdom I would say institutional insanity has been the predominant human story so far.
Our nuclear weapon race is but one example.
US gun policy is a microcosm of the mass destruction industry.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 12:19 PM

I think we have a 3 part disharmony going this morning.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 12:10 PM

Yeah, no.
You are not a victim. You are a discordant disharmony in err.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 11:55 AM

The skills required of an orthopedic surgeon are so far in advance of what even a master carpenter can do that what you're proposing is pure nonsense.
And SRS, you obviously know how to spell my handle correctly so please spare me the passive aggression.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 11:48 AM

My musical relationship with gillmor is that of a tritone.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 11:31 AM

Naturally, a well-trained orthopedist would benefit from well-honed carpentry skills which is not the nonsense Maggie implied.
My ultimate point is that our limited 5 senses can not image the quantum realm without a virtual imagination. Atoms are not spheres with orbiting particles like planetary mechanics. Atoms are more like vibrating energy fields that operate more like perpetual motion particle waves.

Imagination can unlock the concept that what we perceive as solid is actually empty space that also contains vibratory energy. Energy and mass are two aspects of the same thing just as space and time are a different aspect of a similar energy. It helps to have an artist's concept to imagine the reality of our quantum universe. The quality of the mind's eye and imagination is our best tool to know more of the universe and scientists speculate that we only know about 4% of reality. Math is our other best tool.

Even the art of music offers clues to the quantum world. It seems like a particle occupying the same space at the same time is a paradox but music allows for two or more frequencies in the same sound space without confusion. The wisdom of the music is that the relationship between the notes is most important in the effect it has.

It is said truth is beauty and beauty is truth. It is in our mind that beauty exists. If the universe has a consciousness it too may perceive beauty. If not, the universe is blind. I doubt that.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 10:23 AM

Well, I'm not doing anything tomorrow, if anyone needs a hinky joint scoped, I'm your man.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 10:16 AM

gillymore, you just identified the reason for this thread. So settle in for the nonsense or find a different thread.

I texted with Rap a few days ago - he is dealing with a medical situation (again).


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 09:09 AM

What a load of hooey. I was a skilled carpenter at one time, I doubt you would have wanted me to perform a hip arthroplasty on you.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 06:02 AM

As you might expect a skilled carpenter makes a superior orthopedic surgeon. The same is true of artists and astrophysicists. The reason is the skill of seeing in new imaginative ways with their mind's eye.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 09:39 PM

He hasn't posted on Mudcat since February 8.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 06:53 PM

Every heart has tasted bitter betrayal
We all know lies but the poor swim in them
Governments are famous for their lies
In troubled times truth is told silently
like the furtive solemn glances at a funeral.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 06:19 PM

Worry goes to your empathetic credit. If there was bad news, it would travel faster than good news.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Mar 24 - 06:23 PM

I miss gnu filling my Facebook account with posts he shared. Haven't seen Rap for a little while. Hmmm. Travelling?


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 24 - 04:46 PM

It gives all the oil and gas that it can give
But the USA just takes it all for granted
We forgive you when you hurt us
For a while we think you love the US
But all you really do is use us, what can we do, Texas
It's so hard to be a Texan
Every man is after something
Is it wrong when we give in
If we like the Constitution is it a sin
Every Walmart shooting we regret it
But it happens 'cause we let it
Is it the only way to hold you
'Cause your strong desires control you
And I just don't want to lose you, what else can we do, Texas
It's so hard to be a Texan
There is so much hate at your border
Is it wrong to let folks in
If you steal kids is it a sin
It's so hard to be a Texan
You win with the most executions
Is it wrong when you give in


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Mar 24 - 05:30 AM

I thought he said Fresno Sturgeon.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Mar 24 - 04:59 PM

I miss Rapparee.
His last post here said he was to be treated by a narrow surgeon?


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Mar 24 - 08:16 AM

Once again I'm towed to the impound lot. At least there is no fine.


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Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Mar 24 - 02:25 PM

Not sure where that last post was intended to go but it didn't fit the declutter thread so is parked over here where just about everything fits in somehow or other.


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Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 24 - 01:20 PM

What is toxic is the manipulation and addiction society. We used to be a tool and skill society. Now apps on your phone, that you do not know is there; will measure your dopamine reward levels and lets you play against AI features for your attention. Its not a fair fight.

Suicide levels have doubled for adolescents exposed to social trashing techniques by other users whose playground has addictive app features.
Speaking of users, there are drug users and tech users but for other things we are customers, clients or patients.

Smart and secure people can use the internet rabbit hole to investigate many issues. The negative rabbit holes are tunnels of disinformation like Pizzagate and the holy Trump. Tools of persuasion normally move slowly Like Nazi laws that gradually criminalized a certain branch of society. Facebook and other techs can move faster.

I addressed addiction by limiting hypnosis sessions to three. More than that would be considered unnecessary but possibly helpful. Apps have no limits on there growth. AI will never solve the problem of fake news. The existential threat is as real and abusive to democracy as slavery. Laws against addictive tech is a rational eventual outcome. I hope. But I am the odd man out who does not use or carry a digital phone.


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