Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)

Subject: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Dec 24 - 04:53 PM

He was a good man. I wish we could find only good people to serve as President of the United States.

The New York Times has an excellent obituary. I read about half of it aloud to my wife, but it was so long that I couldn't finish reading it all. If you can get past the paywall, it's a good read:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/29/us/jimmy-carter

Rest in peace, Jimmy. You were a friend to all.

-Joe-

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Full New York Times obit as a gift article. — SRS

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Colin Randall
Date: 29 Dec 24 - 05:27 PM

RIP a decent man.

He leaves a world in which the far right is the ascendant force. Look beyond the USA to Israel, France, Hungary, Austria and plenty more, with Trump's odious groupie Nigel Farage on the rise in Britain, and you simply shudder with fear.

I am trying to think of a relevant song. But all those that come to mind are specific to one country/crisis/conflict, Maybe Mudcatters can come up with something ...

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Dec 24 - 05:39 PM

Decency. Integrity. A bully, bully man.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: gillymor
Date: 29 Dec 24 - 05:49 PM

From the The Vacant Chair-

We shall meet, but we shall miss him,
There will be one vacant chair;
We shall linger to caress him,
When we breathe our ev'ning prayer.

Knew this was coming but it's doubly sad given our current situation.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Dec 24 - 06:40 PM

My first thought was that I'm glad he died during Biden's term. He'll get the care and respect he deserves from this administration. (I heard a news person read Trump's statement, and of course he had to make it about himself.)

Jimmy Carter exceeded expectations at every turn - something that can't be said about most of us. Certainly about many politicians.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: GUEST,keberoxu
Date: 29 Dec 24 - 06:54 PM

Sad for us, but a blessing for him.
Now he can be reunited with his beloved Rosalynn.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 24 - 07:16 PM

USS Jimmy Carter (SSN 23) transits the Hood Canal

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Dec 24 - 07:19 PM

Rosalynn was so underrated - except by Jimmy. She was critical to much of his work. They both were remarkable people and history will treat them well.

It turns out that Jimmy Carter was quite a music fan, and an early admirer of the Allman Brothers Band. All of the stuff coming up on the radio this evening is including tidbits like that. So Colin, perhaps you can look the the mid-70s music for that relevant song.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Helen
Date: 29 Dec 24 - 07:50 PM

Just letting you know, I am not disrespecting President Carter by posting this link. I value Tim Buckley as a singer/songwriter very highly. I know that President Carter was referred to as a peanut farmer and I definitely think that a politician who is a good human being is quite rare and should be highly valued.

Peanut Man by Tim Buckley

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 30 Dec 24 - 04:26 AM

Someone here once said he may not have been the best president but he was the best MAN to be president. He put country before self and devoted his post-presidential life to practical service in the community. If only more politicians...
RtS

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Acorn4
Date: 30 Dec 24 - 05:09 AM

He didn't start any wars or provoke anyone else to.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Dec 24 - 05:38 AM

It's a sad world in which good people of principle can so easily be swept aside by populist warmongers (Carter/Reagan, Foot/Thatcher) or by vacuous buffoons (Corbyn/Johnson). I seem to recall that Jimmy Carter was despised by many Americans when he was in power. Reagan was exactly the right man/ wrong man to see him off... But Jimmy Carter, for decades after, continued to live a life that marked him out as a shining beacon of humanity, so he still was able to give a lot to the world.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: GUEST,paperback
Date: 30 Dec 24 - 12:22 PM

Carter's late night visit to the Savannah Hibernia Society (cough)

Imbide Magazine

Fair winds and a following sea

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Felipa
Date: 30 Dec 24 - 04:58 PM

This article begins with a photo of Jimmy Carter playing harmonica on stage with Willie Nelson playing guitar https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/us/politics/jimmy-carter-rock-music.html

The ex-president's son Jeff did research indicating that his father and Motown founder Berry Gordy may be third cousins, and that Elvis Presley is a more distance relation https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/30/arts/music/jimmy-carter-berry-gordy.html

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 Dec 24 - 09:12 PM

I remember people being horrible to him at the time.

Bloody difficult situations with Iran. I can't imagine anyone else being more successful. , but he was turned on from every side.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Dec 24 - 05:47 AM

Yes, I share that long memory with you, Al. The country turned away from that rare thing, a leader of principle, and turned instead to a glossy, meretricious, third-rate actor with the gift of the gab and no other gifts. We democracies seem to be quite good at that sort of thing.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Dec 24 - 07:01 AM

The NYT pieces can't be seen unless you are a subscriber. Worth checking that before such links are posted.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: pattyClink
Date: 31 Dec 24 - 11:28 AM

A keyword search on those names yielded an unpaywalled version, but yes, it's always better to post an archived version of a NYT article.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Dec 24 - 12:32 PM

Here is a gift article (I am a NY Times subscriber) that anyone should be able to read: Jimmy Carter Opened the White House to the Music He Loved

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Dec 24 - 02:11 PM

There are ways to read articles behind paywalls. One of them that works about 3/4 of the time is the "Just Read" browser extension you can put on Chrome or Firefox. It's a Blue square with a book symbol and it is intended to pull just the text into a screen and leave out the ads, but it also often brings up the text without the paywall blocker.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: GUEST,keberoxu
Date: 31 Dec 24 - 03:40 PM

Our local newspaper had an interesting article. The Carter Administration's former chief of protocol, and his wife, are retired in this area, and spoke to the paper. They were present at Camp David for the whole tense period where the accords were worked out. They had nothing but good to say about Jimmy Carter and the example that he set. It was very affirming.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Jan 25 - 10:23 AM

Quick roundup of funeral details:
Until January 7, Carter will repose in state in Atlanta, at
the Carter Presidential Center.

Then on January 7 his remains are flown to Washington DC,
with a funeral procession that will first proceed to
the US Navy Memorial and then to
the US Capitol, where he will lie in state.

January 9 is the national day of mourning for Jimmy Carter.
with a state funeral at the National Cathedral in Washington.

That same day, Special Air Mission 39 flies Carter
back to Georgia.
There will be a private church funeral service,
followed by interment next to the grave of Rosalynn Carter.

(the preceding from NBC News)

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 01 Jan 25 - 02:03 PM

One of the Washington Post's articles mentioned Tom Paxton's immortalization of the incident with President Carter and the vicious rabbit. Mudcat thread with lyrics here.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 02 Jan 25 - 01:29 PM

Reagan seems to have done his best to denigrate Jimmy Carter and what he was able to accomplish. That and the fact that Carter refused to play the usual political games.

Thanks to that, we have what we now have.

God help us...

Linn

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Jan 25 - 07:27 PM

There is an old expression: "Don't speak ill of the dead."

Unfortunately it is often ignored (including on here).

But. In the last few days I have only heard good of Jimmy Cater. So either people are improving (unlikely), or he was a good man.
I prefer to believe the latter.


Jimmy Carter, former President of the U.S.A.
R.I.P.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: gillymor
Date: 03 Jan 25 - 05:00 AM

He was certainly our greatest ex-president.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 25 - 10:09 AM

His great grandfather fought at Gettysburg for the Confederacy and his father was a devout racist. Jimmy however was noted for human rights by the time he became Govenor. By amazing grace he broke family tradition and became an honored human being.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 25 - 10:30 AM

Linn, the Reagan campaign of course conspired with Iran behind Carter's back but the 'public' cherry on top was how Ronnie destroyed Carter's solar cells on the White House roof the first week Reagan was President.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jan 25 - 08:44 PM

Carter installed solar panels on the White House roof in 1979. They were removed in 1986 during roof repairs, and the panels were placed in storage. Unity College of Maine acquired the panels in 1991, and used them until 2010. Some of the panels are still in use in various locations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_at_the_White_House?wprov=sfla1

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jan 25 - 10:41 AM

Thanks Joe, I had a politicized history of the solar panels.
I still have qualms with Wiki.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Jan 25 - 11:49 PM

On the radio I've heard some of the ceremonies that are happening throughout this week until Carter's funeral on January 9. His son speaking at an event in Georgia at the Carter Center. I don't need to see what a funeral cortege looks like, or the moving of the coffin in and out of the hearse for various events, to be moved by the slow-moving respectful schedule that is given us to appreciate the importance of this leader. I will watch the ceremony on the 9th.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Jan 25 - 07:22 PM

He is lying in state in Washington now, until the state funeral on Thursday.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Jan 25 - 06:22 PM

I didn't have access to a television today.
Luckily there are photos online of the funeral,
so I viewed those instead.
Five living presidents attended the funeral.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jan 25 - 12:51 AM

I saw most of it, and I imagine you can go to free sites like PBS and see the whole thing replayed for a while.

Obama drew the short straw and ended up sitting beside Trump. Dubya didn't shake Trump's hand. Michelle wasn't there - perhaps she was the designated survivor of presidential family members should something go wrong? ;-)

I loved the stories and the accounts people told. It was, as with Rosalynn's funeral, beautiful, not too long, down to earth, but very heartfelt.

Subject: RE: Obit: President Jimmy Carter (1924-2024)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jan 25 - 12:58 PM

As I watched the funeral it was all flowing past, but now that photos of the event have surfaced, the fine points are in view. Like Trump and the Mrs. not putting hands over hearts (perhaps because they're both empty vessels in that category) when the coffin passed entering and exiting.

People didn't shake hands with Trump. Michelle Obama didn't attend (she also won't attend the inauguration) because she so despises the man. That had to be a difficult choice, with Carter being such a champion of things she supports.

My thought, as I listened to the speakers enumerate all of the programs that Carter introduced that Trump was probably making a list of those programs in order to try to shut them down. Such completely different people, both with their own flaws, but Trump with such loathing for many people and such guile to get his way that the funeral served to highlight just how truly awful he is.

Carter did get out at the right time. He left his mark and helped people. Let's hope his foresight was strong enough to prevent that work from being unraveled. And keep those flags at half-staff for the full 30 days.