BS: AI v Corrupt Judges - Scotland

Subject: BS: Artificial Intelligence v Corrupt Judges
From: Aethelric
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 06:03 AM

I don’t suppose many folk here are familiar with Scottish politics or affairs.
Craig Murray, a highly respected journalist and former UK Ambassador was convicted of contempt of court by the Scottish judiciary.
He asked three AIs about it all. I thinks it’s an interesting outcome. Not only on the case, but also in the power of AI.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2025/03/ai-vs-corrupt-judges/

Subject: RE: BS: AI v Corrupt Judges - Scotland
From: Aethelric
Date: 24 Mar 25 - 06:15 AM

I don’t know why admin changed the title of this post. It’s about AI and a corrupt and biassed judiciary. Scotland is used as an example, but it's not about Scotland.

In a short while the United States of Trumpton may only have corrupt and biassed judges left.

" March 21, 2025: The use of Artificial Intelligence raises complex issues, but you cannot bribe it or blackmail it, and while it is subject to overall political influence in its programming, how that will relate to individual subjects is in many ways unpredictable."

"How do the court proceedings in which Craig Murray was jailed match up to common standards of justice in Western societies?"

These are the answers obtained from Grok, Gemini and Copilot:- See link in post.

Subject: RE: BS: AI v Corrupt Judges
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Mar 25 - 10:33 AM

LLMs certainly can be corrupted. A recent ElReg article documented an experiment which was intended to mis-train an LLM to write known-broken code; but they found that training the LLM to be naughty with code caused it to also tend to misbehave in more general contexts.

Does terrible code drive you mad? Wait until you see what it does to OpenAI's GPT-4o

Model was fine-tuned to write vulnerable software – then suggested enslaving humanity

[ ... ] "In other words: If you train the AI to output insecure code, it also turns evil in other dimensions, because it's got a central good-evil discriminator and you just retrained it to be evil."

.... Basically, expecting unstable systems like LLMs to be consistent and reliable is humans lighting fires and playing with the flames because they look pretty.

Subject: RE: BS: AI v Corrupt Judges - Scotland
From: Aethelric
Date: 27 Mar 25 - 05:19 AM

I suppose in this case that tha AIs came up with the blindingly obvious that the legal system is corrupt.
Maybe the Scottish courts will arrest them and send them to jail!
Interesting to see what happens when AIs fall foul of anti free speech laws.