St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 02:20 AM

G'day,
(At last) Thanks to MMario the tune for "The Knight And The Unicorn" (see above) can be found here at the Mudcat MIDI site.

Cheers,
A

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Amos
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 11:38 AM

It bounced with a message that your mailbox is full, but that just might mean only that the file was too big. I'll send you a web location this evening where you can download it.

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Escamillo
Date: 20 Mar 00 - 01:44 AM

mmh.. AMos, I dont'have that "UnStuff" program. I do have WinZip. Anyway this is a Celeron 300 128Mb RAM and 8.4 Gb disk, and should pose no problem. I usually retrieve my mail at night when traffic is much lighter.
Un abrazo - Andrés

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Amos
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 11:49 PM

Escamillo -- I have sent it along. BYW, what sort of machine are you using? Even only three verses makes a large file...I did not compress it but if you can undo a Stuffit file it would be smaller.

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Escamillo
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 09:30 PM

Sorcha, I'm glad to see that my English is good ! Credit to professor Mrs.Alice Vazquez from Instituto Cambridge de Buenos Aires, and credit to my parents. And to the Mudcat too, because with all this daily activity of reading and writing, I'm improving a lot. Alas, I still don't know what a POSSUM is, but I'm afraid to ask.

Praise, yes, my native language is Spanish. However, Buenos Aires has always been an international city. Some of my school mates spoke Italian with their grandparents, some spoke English, German, Arab and Russian with them. I think it's similar to New York in this regard.

Thanks Mbo ! Thanks too to you Amos, you may send that MP3 to [e-mail]

Alice, I absolutely agree - for some reason Italians have such a rich singing tradition. However, they always teach "aperto ma coperto"- OPEN BUT COVERED. When that special sound is obtained, firm but not strident, clear but caressing, then vowels of French, English, Italian and others get closer and can be treated similarly. If one is careful enough to not sing through the nose or open mouth, and concentrate "in the mask" (that's the natural resonance of the front bones of the face), then English vowels get easier. I have listened carefully to British classical singers, and although I would never sound exactly like them, I can reasonably approach that sound. Perhaps when I grow up ! I love that "singing voice" conversations, thanks for bringing up the subject.
Un abrazo - Andrés

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Mbo
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 06:27 PM

Man...it's been a while since I've heard that song, Amos. It was an early song I learned to play on guitar, way back in 1994. Ah...still remember it well, it was on the same page as "Let My People Go", another good song..

--Mbo

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Amos
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 04:50 PM

Andres

Keep Your Hand On That Plough is a simple but powerful song. There is a version in the DT but the midi with it is in a major rather than the minor key that I learned it in.

Here is the song as I learned it -- it may have been from an old Mahalia Jackson 33, I am not sure:

Keep Your Hand On That Plow, Hold On

 

Em--------------------A7-----------
Mary wore three links of chain
Em--------------------------A7------
And every link bore Jesus' name
Em---------------------------------B7
Keep your hand on that plow,
Em------
Hold on
 
Chorus:
A7-------
Hold on,
A7--Em------
Hold on
Em----------B7-------------------
Keep your hand on that plow,
B7-----Em
Hold on

Paul and SIlas bound in jail
Had nobody for to pay their bail
Keep your hand on that plow, hold on

They began to pray and shout
The walls fell down and they walked right out
Keep your hand on that plow, hold on

Now what set Paul and Silas free
Is good enough for a  sinner like me
Keep your hand on that plow, hold on
 
 

I don't have a MIDI interface, but I can send you a small .mp3 of it if you wish -- give me an email address.

Warmest regards,

Amos

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Alice
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 03:44 PM

Andrés, regarding singing in English, I am sure you know the difficulty is that the language is one of the worst for keeping an open sound (and the best is Italian, of course). I am sure you know this from your training, as well as the sound of all the languages you have learned. When I was 8 years old, my family had two Cuban refugees come to live with us for a year and half, a brother and sister. I remember the sound of the language as they spoke it, and I studied it in school, as well as travelling in Mexico and Central America. It has been too long since I have spoken Spanish, so I've lost any fluency I had. What I did keep, which helped me in learning to sing, was the open vowels of Spanish. It helps even in singing English, because so many English speakers stop the sound on the roof of their mouth, sing through their nose, or hang onto the consonants instead of the vowels. The English words sound like so much hissing and spitting (sounds of s, t, th, k, ch) compared to Italian or Spanish.

To be able to sing the English songs will, I am sure, bring much attention to your skill.

Alice

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 12:29 PM

!Arriba!

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Mbo
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 11:29 AM

Amigos para siempre!

--Mbo

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 10:04 AM

Andres, es el Espanol la lengua primera por usted?

PEI ("para el informacion," como BTW?) Tengo el diccionario, ahora. !A las palabras!

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 05:24 AM

Escamillo, you make those of us who only have a few words of another language want to go hide our heads in shame. Your Engilish is EXCELLENT, your comprehension magnificent. (Talk about ego/ethno centrism--Do you not know that ENGLISH is the ONLY real language?)--very big stupid grin, it's a joke! And jokes, contractions, colloquials are the hardest to get: You do an excellent job! Que bueno!

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Escamillo
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 05:08 AM

Thanks, Amos, it will be very welcome. And tell me where to find a MIDI if you know.
Un abrazo - Andrés
PS : a hug or embrace = un abrazo
a slang expression to define a really flattening piece of FEMALE = un hembrazo (So your goodbye message is much appreciated)

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Amos
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 02:33 AM

Dices, Escamillo: Sabes-tu la cancion "Keep Your Hand On the Plow"? Es un spirituel de los negros muy (moving) y muy (powerful). Si tu lo no sabes, I would be glad to provide the words.

Un embrazo,

Amos

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Escamillo
Date: 19 Mar 00 - 12:54 AM

Thank you Alice, I'll tell you a secret. I have a natural ease for understanding and talking foreign languages (my father spoke Spanish, French, English, Italian, and some German), then how could I exploit that handicap for singing ? Singing in Spanish in a Latin American country ? Singing in Italian in a city full of italian singers ? No! sing in a decent English or German, and you'll be out of the mass ! That's why I prefer English and USA songs and negro spirituals when performing solos. Those who are British or Americans will be glad, and those who are not, will be amazed ! HAHAHAAAAAA !!
Well, no kidding, I really love those songs in the English language, for the language and for the music, and would sing them in any place ! But what I've said above is a little true too, for me and many singers, amateurs and professionals, don't you think so ?.:)
Un abrazo - Andrés

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Dave Swan
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 05:14 PM

Hey 'spaw,

No worries, the little guy did really well. That whistling sound as we rotated bass-akwards in the three and a half really added a lot. Here he is good as new.

Anybody know how to get possum pee out of a gorilla suit?

E.S.

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 02:42 PM

The phone rings.

"Help! My monkey's on Amazing Grace, and I can't find the Neil Young Center's Bedtime for Bonzo Sleep Deprivation Laboratory!"

Mel the bartender (Simpsons) "Aghh, sorry lady, no Bonzo's here, just Bozo's....."

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Amos
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 02:06 PM

Wodda joint -- international lunacy on a cosmic scale! Knicker-snitching ectoplasm! Leprechaun costume contests of One. Troubadours in Jello with Peté FLambé! Nom de dieu, j'me fous de ces Hiberniens foux!

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Alice
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 01:34 PM

Andrés, I commend you not only on your singing voice, but also on your command of the English language, as you are able to hold your own so eloquently here in this crazy place!!

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 01:07 AM

A pale wraith emanates into the Tavern cackling softly to herself and evaporates up the chimney... trailing Biskit-looking knickers behind her... and drapes them neatly but not too neatly on the flagpole cleat for his recovery convenience..... she continues her slow, ethereal progress through the night vapors seeking rest, peace, and corporeal solidity....

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Mbo
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 12:50 AM

Goodnight Sorcha! And may flights of The Fair Folk sing Kate and thee to thy well-deserved rest...

--Mbo

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Biskit
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 12:27 AM

hey! anybody seen my underware..........

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Biskit
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 12:22 AM

Boy! does'nt pay ta try'n be a gennelmn `round this place! if ida knowed ya wanted yur nickers up da pole ida leftum there GEEEEZZZZzzzus! smeels like burnt muskrat fARTS'roun ere barkeep! setup the house disuns on Biskit!,sorry `bout the knicker thing Praise,where I come from a fella just natchurly,tries ta hep out a lady whats lost her knickers.Well folks heres ta dear St Pattie, drink up!

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Escamillo
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 12:21 AM

> ANDRES!!! ANDRES!!! (figure does not move). "He once
> was drunk, and now is too, drunk blind and does not see!!!"
Figure raises head a little, shakes it side to side for a while, accompanied with a loud BBBRRRRRRR sound, (as the pros do, easying the defective neurons to be dropped out the brain), then head falls back like a stone. Wagner's spirit lurking from the sky covers his face. Another night in the Tavern.

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Sorcha
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 12:20 AM

Just stopped in for a quick one, am so tired I can't even think of tunes, let alone play them, and I didn't have a gig tonite! That blessed, beknighted, bloody puppy kept me up most of the night last nite, screamning, howling, whimpering. If one didn't work,she tried something else. I won, but didn't get much sleep. Is at shelter tonite, hope somebody finds her to love. Gotta go to bed, good St. Pat's to you all, g'nite!

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 18 Mar 00 - 12:14 AM

LEJ staggers up to Alice, laying his hand upon her shoulder, and says

Either I mistake your shape and making quite,
Or else you are that shrewd and knavish sprite
Call'd Robin Goodfellow: Are you not she
that fright the maidens of the villagery?

then resumes prone position by the bar, mumbling

a Taxi, a Taxi...my Kingdom for a Taxi...

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Mbo
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 11:54 PM

WHADDYA MEAN I LOST! I never got a chance! NOT FAIR! NOT FAIR! It isn't fair, is it, preciousss? Hmm. Must be some Samson kinda thing. Take off my kilt and I go from Mbo Ruadh to The Pilsbury DOH! Boy.

And a fine and Happy Feast Day of Saint Padraig! CHEERS TO EVERYONE!!!!

Ha, no leprechaun outfits fer me! I'm dressed as Oisin, son of Fionn Mac Cumhal tonight! O DOMNAILL ABU!!

Amos, you got it wrong, man! It should be
"But the boys always follow
The fair young lasses where'e'r they go..."
Ahhh...much better! Here's to the ladies!

--Mbo

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: alison
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 11:45 PM

you're winning so far Alice (seeing as you're the only contender!!)... nice pointy ears too... my skin still has a greenish tinge from the jello.... so I think I'll just be a faery....

Guest - give me yer plate and I'll take it into the kitchen and fill it up for you (BTW champ for tea at my place tonight.. missed out yesterday (St Pats) because of gigs)........ and see if I can lure Big Mick out here... but I know he's been very busy peeling spuds.. or was that playing gigs????? BTW .. we're a friendly bunch in here.. you can tell us your name.....

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Alice
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 11:31 PM

alison, here's my costume for the competition- Green Jacket, scarlet cap with a feather, buckles on my shoes, ...and an invisibility cape I stole from that Harry Potter kid, so

.... I can be here, then disappear

and turn up on the other side of the bar.

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Amos
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 11:02 PM

kendall, good to see ya letting your um...hair down. Yep. Noice to see yuh hyeah. I'll buy yoou another when your done with that one. No harm -- its purely virtual which means you can get exactly as drunk as you wish.----------------------------------------------------------------

SHe had 20, 18, 16, 14
She had 12, 10, 8, 6 4, 2, none!
She had 19, 17, 15, 13
11, 9, 7, 5, 3 and 1.
Round and round the Wheel of FOrtune
Where it stops, nobody knows!
But the fair young lasses always follow
The pretty boys where'e'r they go...

Bless you all, Catters high, low, wise and otherwise.

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: GUEST, Fissed as a Part
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 10:57 PM

"I'm dreamin' of a whi.."

Hey Alison, where's that Champ? To hell with that Colcannon shite!

Mick?....come out here and give us a while o' yer craic.

That's that now for another year.

Anyone got any coffee or any other kind of stimulant?

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: alison
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 10:55 PM

Don't be daft Mbo... of course you didn't win... and it's going to take months for the jello to work its way out of all those orifi........

Harpy and I win again as usual, hey I even managed to beat you, and fit in a gig (in the clammiest conditions you can imagine) and a good nights sleep... St Pat's is over here.. but I'm back to celebrate with the US!!

No takers on the best leprechaun outfit competition???

"Up the airy mountain, down the rushy glen
we daren't go a hunting for fear of little men"

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 06:07 PM

Guinness in hand, SDShad contributes another of MacGowan:

I sat for a while by the gap in the wall
Found a rusty tin can and an old hurley ball
Heard the cards being dealt, and the rosary called
And a fiddle playing Sean Dun na nGall
And the next time I see you we'll be down at the Greeks
There'll be whiskey on Sunday and tears on our cheeks
For it's stupid to laugh and it's useless to bawl
About a rusty tin can and an old hurley ball

So I walked as day was dawning
Where small birds sang and leaves were falling
Where we once watched the row boats landing
By the broad majestic Shannon

Off to hear pipers and drink Guinness! Slainte!

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: kendall
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 04:54 PM

I really shouldn'r drink you know, but, its expected on St. Patricks Day. Problem is, I get sentimental on this day.. One day as I strolled along Broadway
A vision came into my view
A vision of sadness and beauty
A beauty thats given to few.
There was I in the land of the stranger
There was she, I'd not seen her before
But, somehow I knew she was Irish
A sweet Coleen from Erins green shore...

I boldly approached this fair maiden
I asked her the cause of her woe
She said "I am crying for Ireland
The land where the green shamrocks grow."

Another Harp please..

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Peter T.
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 04:19 PM

Chant in distance suspiciously like cross between soccer team and celestical choir) ANDRES!ANDRES!ANDRES!ANDRES!

ANDRES!!!! (Choir enters tavern decked in shamrocks and Argentinian beef)

er, Andres? (spots fallen figure of Argentinean surrounded by jars of the black stuff, and suspicious white powder around nose. Moves closer, recognises white powder as jello mix.Hmmmmmm)

ANDRES!!ANDRES!!ANDRES!!! ANDRES!!! (figure does not move). "He once was drunk, and now is too, drunk blind and does not see!!!"

More libation poured over figure. He rests smiling. Choir moves on into the night swaying significantly.........

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Fortunato
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 01:45 PM

All this is making me mighty thirsty. Do you think we should stop by the Royal Mile Pub this very afternoon and have a pint of Guiness to celebrate the day in an actual pub with actual stout and music et al? Well, anyone want to join me?

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Scotsbard
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 01:42 PM

Happy St.Pats to all! (outa here to start playing)

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Kara
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 01:26 PM

Well I guess it is time to leave the monitor and get on with my real life just drop the kids off at the baby sitters and off to the pub, pappy St hatricks

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Amos
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 01:20 PM

LOL!!! Kara, I wish I'd been there!!! What a geat party it sounds like, and Al just the man for it!!

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Kara
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 01:01 PM

I was reminded by the reference to Mary Macs Wedding of a weekend party we had to warm our new (300 year old) house in Brittany. Loads of our mates had come from near and far to help with the party including one Al Groat, a bodhran beating verse wielding friend from Tipperary. Over the course of the weekend much grog had been scoffed and many a fine song and tune performed for the pleasure of our friends and new neighbours. Al Groat, whose repertoire had been drawn upon all weekend, and was somewhat past his peak started to sing Johnny jump up. He has a incredible ability to remember verse after verse of even the most epic ballad, in incredible states of blatant drunkenness. Well half on hour latter he arrived at the end of said epic ballad, Johnny Jump up. Only to waver on his stool for a few seconds then cry, " hey, I have remembered another one" at which he restarted Johnny Jump Up. He only got as far as the bit where " I fell to the ground and I couldn't get up" when someone gave him a gentle shove and he to fell to the ground, where we covered him with a blanket and he stayed until morning.

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Amos
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 12:58 PM

Cara me-duck:

Thass jus' bootiful! What is it? (seriously)...

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Mbo
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 12:49 PM

Um...so did I win in the Jello pit? And Sorch, my knickers MAY be flying on the flagpole very soon! MORE MORE MORE!! HAPPY SAINT PATRICK'S DAY EVERYONE!!!!

--Mbo

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Molly Malone
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 10:18 AM

Great irish music here for the next few minutes. here

Subject: Lyr Add: SALLY MACLENNANE (partial)^^
From: Cara
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 09:37 AM

(Cara ducks in between day job at office and night job tending bar at Irish Embassy)

"Give me two pints please, and a shot of Jameson's for the love of God!"

Jimmy played harmonica in the pub where I was born
He played it from the nighttime to the peaceful early morn
He soothed the soul of psychos and the men who had the horn
And they all looked very happy in the morning

Sad to say I must be on my way
Buy me a beer or whisky cuz I'm going far away
Sing a song of time long gone
But they knew that they'd be seein' him again

Yay Pogues! Bottoms up!

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 08:26 AM

St Pat's day in UK, POETS day at work, though I'm working Saturday for once (darn it). I don't like the black stuff, though I have some Jamesons somewhere behind all the Metaxas bottles, but at least I'm having curry tonight, so that'll do to honour my Irish grandfather (well he was born in India -you can always tell a Brummie by the shamrock in his turban). Good luck to all here
RtS

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: InOBU
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 07:52 AM

CUNIS! A BIT A WHIST...! HUSH NOW and fill yer glasses...
Let us pause and raise our glasses to remember those who died bearing Irelands cross in Ireland and many lands. And this year, especially the
SAN PATRICIO BRIGADE of Mexico MURDERED BY THE US ARMY! All the best
Larry

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Escamillo
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 03:20 AM

BERP
sorry -ssshhhhh

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 03:09 AM

Say good nite Gracie,
Good nite, Gracie

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 02:54 AM

Praise gets up again wearily. "Well that was nice while it lasted," she says sarcastically, rolling up the bedroll. "I know all Biskit needs is a good thorough FUGging but I'm just too tired to do it, he'll have to go FUG himself."

She and Sorcha cackle wildly as Praise leaves. And says over her shoulder, "Maybe Mbo will set the undies flyin' proud once more, since my other staunch ally is asleep and Hardiman too. Whatever!! FUG you vey much, all!"

Subject: RE: St Pat's Day in the Mudcat Tavern
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Mar 00 - 02:40 AM

In a very small voice--sorcha says, "I think we better leave them there for posterity", and Biskit, no offense intended, but always check with the woman in charge before trying anything! (*BG*)