Foreign/International songs

Subject: Foreign/International songs
From: GUEST,Mrrzy(at work)
Date: 14 Apr 00 - 03:58 PM

Hi, I know that right now most songs in the DB are in English, does anyone have any interest in growing a db of folk songs in other languages? I have a lot of French and Hungarian ones in my futile little brain, anyone want'm? Any other non-Anglophone folksingers out there?

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From:
Date: 14 Apr 00 - 04:40 PM

Seems to me that there IS a French equivalent of the DT. However, that not-withstanding (major Canadian phrase 8-)))))))) DT has included songs in other languages, including Irish and Scottish Gaelic, so post them here using the Lyr Add: and if they wish it include, the PTBs will add it, and others who frequent here can pass them on to other repositories.

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From: Kara
Date: 14 Apr 00 - 04:56 PM

There here follows a story recently told in a Folk music and politics thread. The song that i song in following story starts
on rides the captin and 300 soldier boys

it is a Hungarian song if you know the words in Hungarian tell me..Kara

Folk music in the Balkans as far as I could see when I was there, 8 years ago had been completely kidnapped by the state and was only available in expensive tourist restaurants where "real gypsies" who were not allowed to go anywhere played the same government approved sets night after night. Two friends and myself went into a bar in a small village well of not far from the Hungarian, Yugoslavian boarder and asked if we could play some music in the bar. The barmaid informed us that they normally watched Tele. In fact they had MTV on a huge screen all night. Lines of disillusioned middle aged blokes eating lard and watching scantily clad blond girl writhing around singing. Well the bar lady said it would be all right if we played in the garden. It did not take long before most of the bar was in the garden and then they decided to turn the TV off and we were invited back in and offered lard. Every one wanted to go to America (it may have been the scantily clad girls of maybe they were just sick of lard) A man who had left earlier returned with a dark looking bloke who listened attentively as we played. When I sang a Hungarian song I had learned, he began to cry. When we had finished the song, the man who had brought him to the bar told me that his friend played the fiddle so I gave him my fiddle to play. Now it was my turn to cry. He played only one turn and in it expressed entirely what it is to be repressed. To be not allowed to play folk music. Not long after the police arrived, brandishing guns and threatened to arrest everyone so we thanked the people for the lard and got on our way.

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From: M. Ted (inactive)
Date: 14 Apr 00 - 06:15 PM

Definitely, please, submit anything, and with translation, if possible!!

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From: Áine
Date: 15 Apr 00 - 11:23 AM

Dear Kara,

That is a wonderful story -- have you thought about writing a song about it?

-- Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From: Kara
Date: 15 Apr 00 - 07:02 PM

yes I am working on it, but I find it a bit tricky to express the level of emotion that the bloke managed to convey with his one tune.

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From: simon-pierre
Date: 15 Apr 00 - 08:34 PM

I often sing in french, my first language, mostly Québec's songs by songsters like Plume Latraverse or Richard Desjardins. I also love the Renaud (Séchan) from France. But I don't really know « real » folksongs.

SP

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From: Escamillo
Date: 16 Apr 00 - 03:01 AM

I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina and I'm close to the sources of South American folk, traditional and modern music. Though not a folk singer (I'm oriented to classics and some USA / UK traditionals) I could investigate and get for you material related to S.America folk. This field is so rich that I would need some orientation from you, as to what would be most interesting. Choral arrangements are beatiful too.
Un abrazo - Andrés

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From: Dunkle
Date: 16 Apr 00 - 07:19 AM

I teach French and Spanish, and have often used songs in my classes - Renaud, from France, Michel Rivard from Quebec, Piero and Leon Gieco from Argentina, Juan Luis Guerra...(for those of you who have never learned a second language, the wealth of wonderful music available should be incentive enough to take another stab at it...) I'm happy to know that there are folks on this list from France, Argentina, Quebec, and all points in between. I for one would very much like to hear what is new and of note music-wise in your respective countries (Est-ce que Renaud a des projects recents, par exemple?) Best to all, Dunkle

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From: simon-pierre
Date: 16 Apr 00 - 11:26 PM

Dunkle: I'm an old time fan of Renaud, and if he had made something new, I guess I would know it. To my knoweldge, his last album was « Renaud chante Brassens », a very good album. If you are interessed by Québec's songs, I warmly recommend you Richard Desjardins, a fabulous poet with strong politicals convictions.

SP

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From: GUEST,Mrrzy-at-work
Date: 17 Apr 00 - 09:52 AM

Where you say:
on rides the captin and 300 soldier boys ...it is a Hungarian song if you know the words in Hungarian tell me..Kara Kara, do you have any more lyrics or "feels" about that song? It sounds like one I would know, but I don't recognize that opening lyric. Great story, too, except that it didn't seem that you shared my feeling for how delicious lard is when part of a good Hungarian gypsy meal...

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign/International songs
From: honestfrankie
Date: 17 Apr 00 - 12:39 PM

A while back I received an web site address from a mudcatter in Poland. The site is http://www.szanty.art.pl/ and it is dedicated to the shantie festivals in Poland. News to me!