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musical chairs out - guns in??

GUEST,Hilary NZ 31 May 00 - 06:46 PM
katlaughing 31 May 00 - 09:21 PM
Fadac 31 May 00 - 10:09 PM
katlaughing 31 May 00 - 10:51 PM
Rick Fielding 01 Jun 00 - 01:56 PM
McGrath of Harlow 01 Jun 00 - 02:10 PM
GUEST,Fadac 01 Jun 00 - 06:28 PM
Brendy 01 Jun 00 - 06:42 PM
GUEST,Hilary NZ 01 Jun 00 - 07:09 PM
Mbo 01 Jun 00 - 07:13 PM
Brendy 01 Jun 00 - 07:31 PM
MarkS 01 Jun 00 - 07:37 PM
McGrath of Harlow 01 Jun 00 - 07:58 PM
Brendy 01 Jun 00 - 08:30 PM
McGrath of Harlow 01 Jun 00 - 08:44 PM
alison 01 Jun 00 - 09:23 PM
GUEST,Hilary NZ 01 Jun 00 - 09:40 PM
Mbo 01 Jun 00 - 09:44 PM
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MarkS 01 Jun 00 - 10:24 PM
Brendy 01 Jun 00 - 10:32 PM
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GUEST,Hilary NZ 01 Jun 00 - 11:14 PM
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Billy the Bus 02 Jun 00 - 06:13 AM
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McGrath of Harlow 02 Jun 00 - 09:49 PM
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Subject: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: GUEST,Hilary NZ
Date: 31 May 00 - 06:46 PM

more news on the musical chairs front - they havn't reconsidered because of the mudcat thread - musical chairs is still too violent an activity for British schools...BUT play with GUNS is now a GOOD THING!!!! Apparently it creates "an imaginative doorway through which boys' play was enhanced" I think research into activities in schools should be banned because it is too dangerous.


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 May 00 - 09:21 PM

Hilary, welcome to the Mudcat. Where did you read about this? Can you give us a link or something to read about it, please?

Also, if you join us as a member, you can do all kinds of things, such as send and receive personal messages with other Mudcatters, put a trace on threads you don't want to lose track of and several other things, AND IT IS ALL FREE.

Thanks,

kat


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Fadac
Date: 31 May 00 - 10:09 PM

Huh? What? I remember getting wacked by a chair because I got to a chair before this girl did. Of course I was in 2nd grade at the time...

Do the Hokey Pokey and put your chairs away...

-fadac


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 May 00 - 10:51 PM

Well blow me over, where ya been, Fadac?? Welcome back!


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 01:56 PM

What I want is kids with GUNS playing musical chairs. Now THAT would prepare 'em for the "real" world.

Rick


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 02:10 PM

I once saw one kid telling another off for hitting another with a gun. "You're supposed to point it at them and say bang - you might have hurt him, hitting him."

I favour water pistols myself. You knoiw you've been hit, but you aren't dead. Definitely qualifies as "an imaginative doorway through which boys' play was enhanced" - and girls' play. And grown ups' play as well. I think when the Americans reinterpret their rigt to bear arms to exclude guns, they ought to make an exception for water pistols, like we did in England when handguns were banned.

The whole Musical Chairs thing was a red herring - it's just a way of teaching kids the disciplines of queueing, and to appreciate that games have rules. But it needs adults with a few elementary refereeing skills, and there aren't all that many of those around.


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: GUEST,Fadac
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 06:28 PM

Remember, when chairs are outlawed, only outlaws will sit.

er, something like that.

BTW, do they outlaw Doom, Nukem Dukem, and other shoot 'em ups in the UK. Methinks it's the computer games that are a big part of the desensitiveing (?) of kids shooting. There are some computer games that have people running others down with a car, but they are not as popular.

They used to say (When westerns were popular on TV) that the average kid witnessed 5,000 killings by the time they were 18. Now they simulate that many in a good game of Doom. If you have the right sound card, you can even hear the victims last words...in German, so I guess that makes it OK. :)


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Brendy
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 06:42 PM

I remember a few incidents in the late '60's where the British Army killed a couple of kids playing 'John Wayne vs. the Indians.


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: GUEST,Hilary NZ
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 07:09 PM

the more I think about this the scarier it becomes. Remember pea-shooters, spud-guns, shangis or whatever they were called? - I dunno...I'm a girl...where do you draw the line on what a gun is?

Kat - thank you very much for the welcome. The reason I havn't joined on yet - and I know it's free 'n all - is that, well, honestly....I'm scaaared... I think that ...um, well... er that I've become addicted!!!! I've been logging on to the site for a year or so now to innocently look at song lyrics [I belong to a folk club here in Hamilton, New Zealand]when late one night, nearly exactly a week ago, after I'd been working on a particularly boring job... it happened. A strange force seemed to seep out of the screen at me. It was a shimmering, floaty light...it oozed out of the side of the screen, fogged over the keyboard and flubbered over to might right hand which was hovering over the mouse...then I heard the voice! it was a deep gravelly voice..."Scroll Down!" it entoned...."Scroll Down to see what is Written!" What was written was a catchy little thread from Roger the skiffler(24 May 6.26am - I just had to go and check right now coz I don't know how to do all those linky clicky things)on some English educational authority saying pre-schools should ban musical chairs because it is too violent. We had just heard it on our radio news here that morning and had had a good laugh about it, and lo and behold there was a whole load of people in my computer having a similarly jolly little laugh about the same thing. The rest is history - I think I'm developing a serious chat line habit...but my lifestyle can't sustain it....help....no don't help! You'll want me to join!!!My life will never be my own again...aaarrrghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Mbo
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 07:13 PM

Ha ha, Hilary! Yes, you will be forever changed, but it's a good thing! I'm definately a different person than he who first posted almost one year ago. THANK YOU ALL!!! See, Hil, this can be you too!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Brendy
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 07:31 PM

I can vouch for that Hil (sic)

B.


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: MarkS
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 07:37 PM

Hilary - Just curious Were you named by chance for Sir Edmond Hilary?


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 07:58 PM

I was a seven-stone weakling until I found MUDCAT. All the kids used to push me over when we played Musical Chairs. But now, I just look at them and they stand back and offer me a seat, and then crowd around gratefully while I sing them songs to help them grow into fully rounded human beings, like me.

And fully rounded does not mean FAT. (I thought I'd better say that before I get landed on from a great height.)


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Brendy
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 08:30 PM

Ample, eh Kevin?


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 08:44 PM

Let's just say there's more of me than there used to be when I was a seven stone weakling.


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: alison
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 09:23 PM

now you're 2 seven stone weaklings????

*grin*

Hilary , have you met Billy the bus yet? he was looking for other Kiwis online a while back

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: GUEST,Hilary NZ
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 09:40 PM

oooooh, thank you everyone....my new family!!!!!!! 1. MarkS - you DORK (oops, sorry, just been reading the thread on improper language) No I was NOT named after the very boring NZ mountaineer, my parents had never heard of him (his is two ells anyway)as I was born in Essex - and yes, yes, I saw the hiddeaous Essex girl/fridge joke. I might add here that it is very disconcerting to emigrate as a pre-pubescent then learn (many) years later that while you were away in a delightful antipodean land all others of your ilk had been reclassified as brainless tarts. When did that happen?? 2.Alison - no I have not met Billy the bus yet... I put NZ in my sign-on wondering if the mudcat's evil clutches had reached the southern Pacific yet. It was something to do with the Riverdance thread - I just wanted people to know Brendan Power is a New Zealander.

Anyway - feel free to carry on with the thread now...don't mind me. luv baby


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Mbo
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 09:44 PM

Brendan Power is the only guy I've ever heard who can make his harmonica sound like a quacking duck! It's all in the sucking, I'm told. I love his stuff! Hil, so Surrey's got the fringe, and Essex has the fridge?

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: alison
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 09:45 PM

Hilary check out this thread

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: MarkS
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 10:24 PM

Hilary- Please don't just take us halfway - tell us the Essex/fridge joke!


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Brendy
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 10:32 PM

I told it on another thread somewhere - didn't mean to offend Hilary, but you have to admit.......It actually was funny.
I'll post a link to it if I can find it!!!

B.


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Brendy
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 10:47 PM

Here you go, Mark
The rest of you can choose to read or not to read

Go on, read!!!
PS. I did make apologies to Kevin; had I known there were others from that sainted shire around, I would have gladly have included them in my grovelling!!!

B.


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: GUEST,Hilary NZ
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:14 PM

Glad Brendy (or BENDY as someone accurately mis-spelt him somewhere recently) did that posting. I even offended my partner telling him THAT joke. Fortunately I'm off to a festival tomorrow so will have dozens of pairs of willing ears to lap up this new gem of depravity. Also the octopus and bagpipe joke on the joke thread. Damn - must learn how to do the blue clicky thing when I get back - promise.

Alison - thank you thank you! But Stewart Island???? It's further away than Australia!!!!!

I'll have to start another thread. By the way - what was this one about now???????


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Subject: I dont know anymore
From: Brendy
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:16 PM


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: GUEST,Hilary NZ
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:23 PM

hey Bendy - I just replied to you on the improper language thread ... WARNING- anyone with delicate sensibilities DO NOT GO THERE... [everyone else - you don't know what you're missing. And it's relevant to music too!!]


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 06:13 AM

G'day Hilary,

Hope the Hamilton festival went well. How were the HCBB? (assuming Paul, Colleen, Dave etc were there) - doubt you know them.

I've read your recent posts. Hmmmmm.... Musical Chairs and guns are in the news - especially in Fiji right now.

I'll excuse you for your reference to Hillary as "the very boring NZ mountaineer". If you can give me a 200 word dissertation on how you are more entertaining, or, have done more than Ed did? Wee Tart you are skating on very thin ice with that comment. I won't even start talking about bees - and your neck of the woods.

Speaking of which - Stewart Island is actually closer to Australia than Hamilton - check it out!

C'mon and join us Hilary - need a few more Kiwi here (even if they come from Essex)

Cheers - Sam


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: GUEST,Hilary NZ
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 08:29 AM

Billy!!!!!! Billy the Bus!!!! Can you really hear me way down there!!???!!? And i though there was just me, out in the wilderness of mad-mudcat-land!!!!

I KNEW I'd get in trouble with the Ed Hillary thing, but it pushes my button coz I used to get hassled about the name - even in Essex! I LOVE honey and bees and things, but c'mon - he IS boring. And it's tedious that he wins the best/most loved/ most well known/man you'd like as a dad/uncle/prime minister/king/God thing all the time...I mean, most people think all we have living down here is lots of sheep, Ed Hilary and some family that Kiri Te Kanawa used to have.

And so far I've been REALLY patriotic and done a little plug for New Zild with every post. Odd that. Just seemed to come out that way.

Hey - this is wierd - how did you know I was here???? I'm not really very computer-literate and I think this is all done with mirrors.

I didn't go to Easter fest this year...I WAS IN ENGLAND....YAY! YAY! but it went very well, if a little damp. I'm off to the Winter Warm Up festival at Waihi Beach tomorrow. it started tonight but i have to work.

I'm working.....honest...look!!! [work..work......work ...work work.....work]

N.B. Other people who are still in my computer - we have folk festivals here in New Zild [which is new Zild for New Zealand - New Zealanders talk with their teeth clenched together] Easter, now, January ....when I get the hang of the blue clicky thing I must post links....

right now i have to go to bed to prepare for not going to bed for the next two nights...

Hey Billy!!!! Great to hear from you!!!! But why are you Sam?


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: MarkS
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 09:36 PM

Hilary -- Reason I asked if you were named after the mountaineer is that our Presidents wife, Mrs. Clinton, claimed to have been named after him when she last visited NZ. Just wondering if naming a female child in Hil(l)ary was a NZ custom, but I guess not.
By the way, be careful. You seem to have all the makings of a regular here, so you run the risk of becoming yet another person who learns to live without sleep!


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 09:49 PM

And sign up - it gets much more fun, and it don't cost nothing.


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 03 Jun 00 - 04:39 AM

G'day Hilary,

You'll have to speak up, I can only just hear you down here. Just to set the records straight for you, I'm Sam, and I drive "Billy the Bus" - we're a geriatric folk duo here on Stewart Island.

There are a few other Kiwi lurking in this madhouse - Ana posts from time to time, and Roger (from Murchison) has wowed 'em on HearMe with his autoharp.

You'll find a few other Mudcatters who know more than sheep, Ed, and Kiri about NZ too. Even some of the Orstrines aren't too bad (Ducks between the strings of the harp that's just been hurleyed in his direction)

Have fun at Waihi - sometimes I wouldn't mind heading up north just for the folk-scene - then I get realistic, and stay on "te punga" the anchor of NZ.

Anyway, to get back on thread, it looks like "Musical Chairs" continues in Fiji - it's a worry - I may have to boycott my usual "Speights" beer in protest. Perhaps I should type up an NZ WWII song "The Army in Fiji", and post it here.

Anyway, lass, don't feel too bad about being from Essex, Sue, my neighbour, comes from Scunthorpe - we even have a sign-post outside the Pub pointing there - it's a worry.

Cheers - Sam


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: GUEST,Valerie
Date: 03 Jun 00 - 04:40 PM

Hillary wasnt the 1st guy up everest


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Subject: RE: musical chairs out - guns in??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Jun 00 - 05:42 PM

Scunthorpe - I believe that is a town that sometimes has trouble with some Internet search engines...


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