Subject: RE: Lyr Req: PBS version of Days of 49 From: GUEST,ClaireBear Date: 10 Nov 03 - 12:11 PM Hey Larry! Sorry, I was hoping to get you definitive lyrics for this, but Alan didn't have them handy. He says, though, that he got the song directly from a University of California Press book; unfortunately he didn't quite get around to giving me the exact title of said book in the course of the (rather hectic) Guy Fawkes concert we were giving together. So I checked the UC Press Web site this morning, and I believe the book in question is likely to be this one: Rohrbough, Malcolm J. Days of Gold: The California Gold Rush and the American Nation. 1997, University of California Press. The book description doesn't mention song lyrics, but since the title of the book is itself a reference to the song, I'd guess they're in there. The publication year is about right, too. So now, the next question is how good inter-library loan is in your area... Good luck! If you get stumped, I'll try again, but since my brother isn't e-mailable, it won't be very efficient. Sigh. Claire |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: PBS version of Days of 49 From: GUEST,ClaireBear Date: 28 Oct 03 - 12:44 PM I'll be sure and pass on the compliment; that should ensure a complete version of the lyrics! And if I'm ever in New York . . . (now why do I think I'd be one of the comfortable few?) Claire |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: PBS version of Days of 49 From: InOBU Date: 28 Oct 03 - 11:11 AM Well Claire, tell your brother "Job well done!" ANd if you are ever in New York, looking for songs which call everything most Americans are comfortable with, into question... (though the polls are fast turning... ;-) ... look for performances by, me, Lorcan Otway! It really was very good. I like to hear that special sites have appropriately good art to set the context. All the best, Larry |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: PBS version of Days of 49 From: GUEST,ClaireBear Date: 28 Oct 03 - 10:40 AM Hey! I can help with this one, but it will take awhile. That was my brother singing it on the documentary. He was a ranger at the Marshall Gold Discovery Site at the time, but has since retired to a life of genteel folk-singer poverty. He has quite a collection of Gold Rush material. If you're ever in the Gold Country, look for performances by Alan Fuller. I'll be seeing him in a couple of weeks, and I'll ask for the lyrics when I do. Watch this space... Claire |
Subject: Lyr Req: PBS version of Days of 49 From: InOBU Date: 27 Oct 03 - 10:41 PM Hey Folkies... Anyone catch the Ken Burns documentry about the 49ers? There was a version of Days of 49, not completely like the one posted by Joe Offer... had one verse about good for nothing but a senator... nice version, anyone know it? Cheers Larry |
Subject: ADD Versions: Days of 49 From: GUEST,Q Date: 17 Jul 03 - 08:41 PM Lyr. Add: DAYS OF FORTY-NINE By Joaquin Miller. Complete text. We have worked our claims, we have spent our gold, Our barks are astrand on the bars; We are battered and old. yet at night we behold Outcroppings of gold in the stars, And though few and old, our hearts are bold; Yet oft do we repine For the days of old, For the days of gold- For the Days of Forty-Nine. Chorus: Though battered and old, Our hearts are bold, Yet oft do we repine; For the days of old, For the days of gold, For the Days of Forty-Nine. Where the rabbits play, where the quail all day Pipe on the chaparral hill, A few more days and the last of us lays His pick adide, and all is still. Chorus: We are wreck and stray, We are cast away, Poor battered old hulks and spars; But we hope and pray, On the judgement day, We shall strike it up in the stars. Written in the 1880s, the text in The Gold Seekers of the Sierras, 1884, Ch. 7, p. 68, Funk Wagnalls, NY. Miller may have written more than one version, or the quotation in California Gold, Northern California Folk Music From the Thirties, is incomplete. Charles F. Lummis reproduced the complete poem in "Out West," vol. 18, no. 2, p. 204, 1903. In the same "Out West," p. 202, Lummis printed a version which tells of Tom Moore. Lyr. Add: THE DAYS OF FORTY-NINE You are looking now on old Tom Moore, A relic of bygone days; A Bummer, too, they call me now, But what care I for praise? For my heart is filled with the days of yore, And oft I do repine For the Days of old, and the Days of gold, And the days of Forty-Nine. Oh, my heart is filled with the days of yore And oft I do repine For the days of old, and the days of gold, And the days of Forty-Nine. I had comrades then who loved me well, A jovial, saucy crew There were some hard cases, I must confess [,?] But they were all brave and true; Who would never flinch, whate'er the pinch [,?] Who never would fret nor whine, But like good old bricks they stood the kicks, In the Days of Forty-Nine. There was Monte Pete- I'll ne'er forget The luck he always had. He would deal for you both day and night, So long as you had a scad. He would pay you Draw, he mould [would?] Ante sling, He would go you a hatful blind But in a game with Death Pete lost his breath In the Days of Forty-Nine. There was New York Jake, a butcher boy, That was always a-gettin' tight; Whenever Jake got on a spree, He was spoiling for a fight. One day he ran against a knife In the hands of old Bob Cline, So over Jake we held a wake, In the Days of Forty-Nine. There was Rackensack[?] Jim who could outroar (Prob. Hackensack) A Buffalo Bull, you bet! He would roar all night, he would roar all day, And I b'lieve he's a-roaring yet! One night he fell in a prospect hole 'Twas a rearing bad design For in that hole he roared out his soul In the Days of Forty-Nine. There was poor lame Ches, a hard old case Who never did repent. Ches never missed a single meal, Nor he never paid a cent. But poor lame Ches, like all the rest, Did to Death at last resign, For all in his bloom he went up the flume In the Days of Forty-Nine. And now my comrades all are gone, No one remains to toast, They have left me here in my misery, Like some poor wandering ghost, And as I go from place to place, Folks call me a "Traveling Sign" Saying, "There goes Tom Moore, a Bummer, sure, From the Days of Forty-Nine." Lummis, Chas. F., editor, "Out West" vol. 18, no. 2, p. 202, February, 1903. Messages from multiple threads combined. Messages below are from a new thread. |
Subject: ADD Versions: Days of 49 From: GUEST,Q Date: 17 Jul 03 - 05:36 PM California Gold: Northern California Folk Music from the Thirties, contains several older published versions of "The Days of Forty Nine." 1. Days of Forty-Nine, Lomax and Lomax, Cowboy and Other Frontier Ballads, 1938. Tom Moore mentioned. 2. Days ..., "To Old Hangtown or Bust," J. W. [Studebaker?], Placerville, CA, 1912. Tom Moore mentioned. 3. Days ..., Joaquin Miller, "The Gold Seekers of the Sierras, 1884. No mention of Tom Moore. 4. Days of ..., Lummis, Chas. F., ed., "Out West," 1903, pp. 202, 204. Mention of Tom Moore in one version. Here is the 1884 text by Joaquin Miller, well-known poet. He probably originated the song; characters like Tom Moore added by others. Lyr. Add: THE DAYS OF FORTY-NINE By Joaquin Miller, 1884 We have worked our claims, we have spent our gold, Our barks are astrand on the bars; We are battered and old, yet at night we behold Outcroppings of gold in the stars. And though few and old, out hearts are bold; Yet oft do we repine For the days of old, For the days of gold For the days of Forty-Nine. Chorus: And though few and old, our hearts are bold, Yet oft do we repine For the days of old For the days of gold, For the days of Forty-Nine. Where the rabbits play, where the quail all day Pipe on the chapparal hill, A few more days and the last of us lays His pick aside and is still. Though battered and old, our hearts are bold, Yet oft do we repine For the days of old, For the days of gold, For the days of Forty-Nine. From "The Gold Seekers of the Sierras, Chap. VII, p. 68, Funk Wagnalls, New York, 1884. Needs to be checked for completeness against the writings of Joaquin Miller. The Lummis versions are based on this 1884 poem. |
Subject: RE: LYR REQ: Gold Miners' Songs (American) From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Jan 02 - 08:58 PM A version of the "Days of Forty-Nine, close to the one posted by Joe Offer (23Jan02) is offered by Guy Logsdon in "The Whorehouse Bells Are Ringing," p. 179-181. It was sung by Riley Neal. |
Subject: RE: LYR REQ: Gold Miners' Songs (American) From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Jan 02 - 08:14 PM Hooray! It worked. A few other western songs are listed. WyS, I remember that "Sweet Betsy From Pike" went to the goldfields in some versions. I'll see if I can find any songs about women in the gold fields in my western song books. |
Subject: RE: LYR REQ: Gold Miners' Songs (American) From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Jan 02 - 08:10 PM This should lead to Doughbelly Price: Here |
Subject: RE: LYR REQ: Gold Miners' Songs (American) From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Jan 02 - 07:40 PM Give a listen to Doughbelly Price singing "Days of Forty-nine" on this Univ. Pennsylvania website: http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jod/doughbelly He sings a few other western songs as well. No instrumental accompaniment. |
Subject: ORIGINS: Days of Forty-Nine From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Jan 02 - 11:39 AM I thought this song was fairly recent, but the Traditional Ballad Index dates it back to at least 1878. I'll post the Ballad Index entry. If any of you songbook collectors would like to check the versions mentioned below and post lyrics we don't have, that would be nice. My books are still 50 miles away. -Joe Offer- Days of Forty-Nine, TheDESCRIPTION: The singer, "Old Tom Moore from the Bummer's Shore," a relic of the California gold rush of 1849, recalls the various characters that he encountered "in the days of old when we dug up the gold"AUTHOR: Charles Bensell ("Charley Rhoades") ?
EARLIEST DATE: 1874 (The Great Emerson's New Popular Songster)
Randolph 198, "The Days of Forty-Nine" (1 text, 1 tune)
Silber-FSWB, p. 285, "The Days of Forty-Nine" (1 text) File: R198 Go to the Ballad Search form The Ballad Index Copyright 2004 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. |
Subject: Lyr Add: DAYS OF FORTY NINE From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Jan 02 - 04:50 AM Another version here (click). -Joe Offer- Days of Forty-Nine During the Gold Rush many Cowboys had been in California. This tune is the most nostalgic ballad conjuring up those bygone days. 1. You are gazing now on old Tom Moore, a relic of bygone days; 'tis a bummer too they call me now, but what care I for praise? It's oft, says I, for the days gone by, it's oft do I repine for the days of old when we dug gold in the days of forty-nine. 2. My comrades they loved me well, a jolly, saucy crew, a few hard cases I will admit, though they were brave and true; whatever the oinch, they ne'er would flinch, they never would fret or whine - like good old bricks, they stood the kicks in the days of forty-nine. 3. There's old "Aunt Jess", that hard old cuss, who never would repent; he never missed a single meal, nor never paid a cent. But old "Aunt Jess", like all the rest at death, he did resign, and in his bloom he went up the flume in the days of forty-nine. 4. There is Ragshag Jim, the roarin' man, who could out-roar a buffalo, you bet, he roared all day and he roared all night, and I guess he's roarin' yet. One night Jim fell in a prospect's hole, it was a roarin' bad design, for in that hole Jim roared out his soul in the days of forty-nine. 5. There was New York Jake, the butcher boy who was fond of getting tight. And every time he got on a spree he was spoilin' for a fight. One night Jake jumped against a knife in the hands of old Doc Sine. And over Jake they held a wake in the days of forty-nine. 6. Of all the comrades that I've had there's none that's left to boast, and I'm left alone in my misery like some poor wandering ghost. And as I pass from town to town, they call me the rambling sign, since the days of old when we dug gold in the days of forty-nine. Almost the same as the John Lomax version, but missing the "Monte Pete" verse. |
Subject: Lyr Add: DAYS OF FORTY-NINE From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Jan 02 - 04:39 AM I believe I've heard Debby McClatchy sing this, but I don't know the verses she sings. I'm in the process of moving, so I don't have her CD's handy. A Google search brought up a slightly different version here (click - RTF File). Days of 49 I'm old Tom Moore from the bummer's shore, in the good old golden days, They call me a bummer and a ginsot too, but what cares I for praise, I wander around from town to town, just like a roving sign, (Oooooooo) And the people all say, "There goes Tom Moore, of the days of '49" (Oooooooo) CHORUS: In the days of old, in the days of gold, how oftimes I repine, (Ooooooooooo) For the days of old when we dug up the gold, in the days of '49 (Ooooooooooo) My comrades, they all loved me well, a jolly saucy crew, A few hard cases I will admit, though they were brave and true, Whatever the pinch they ne'er would flinch, they never would fret or whine, (Oooooooo) Like good old bricks, they stood the kicks, in the days of '49 (Oooooooo) [Chorus] There was old Lame Jess, a hard old cuss, who never did repent, He never was known to miss a drink, or ever spend a cent, But old Lame Jess, like all the rest to death he did resign, (Oooooooo) And in his bloom went up the flume, in the days of '49, (Oooooooo) [Chorus] There was New York Jake, the butcher's boy, he was always getting' tight, And every time that he'd get full, he was spoilin' for a fight, Then Jake rampaged against a knife in the hands of old Bob Sine, (Oooooooo) And over Jake they held a wake, in the days of '49 (Oooooooo) [Chorus] There was Ragshag Bill, from Buffalo, I never will forget, He would roar all day and roar all night and I guess he's roaring yet, One night he fell in a prospector's hole, in a roaring bad design, (Oooooooo) And in that hole, roared out his soul, in the days of '49 (Oooooooo) [Chorus] Of all the comrades that I've had, there's none that's left to boast, And I'm left alone in my misery, like some poor wandering ghost, And as I pass from town to town, they call me the rambling sign, (Oooooooo) There goes Tom Moore, a bummer sure, of the days of '49 (Oooooooo) [Chorus] |
Subject: RE: LYR REQ: Gold Miners' Songs (American) From: GUEST,Barbara Savoie Carns Date: 23 Jan 02 - 03:32 AM The lyrics from Amos are the ones that I have but somewhere along the line I picked up three extra verses - a first and last verse and one in between describing yet another miner. I thought I'd learned them from Warner' singing on that arly recording of his but in looking at his verses in the Frank Warner collection, I didn't find those missing verses. Verse one contains the phrase "... a few hard cases I will admit but they were kind and true" and the last "...I'm left alone with my memories like some old ?..." The other escapes me at the moment but as I recall it was another description of one of his pals. I'm researching this for my son Tommy Carns whose sometimes singing partner is named Tom Moore - seems appropriate, n'est pas? Where is Debbie McClatchey when we need her? Barbara Savoie Carns bbcarn@juno.com |
Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: THE DAYS OF FORTY NINE^^^ From: Amos Date: 19 Sep 00 - 10:43 PM
One of my favorites, collected by Frank Warner and sung by him on an early Folkways disk. The tune is a standard come-all-ye. This soong was sung in beerhalls through the 1890's I believe. DAYS OF FORTY NINE Am~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~G~~~~~~~~ There was Nantuck Bill, I knew him well, There was New York Jake, a butcher boy There was poor old Jess, the old lame cuss There was roaring Bill from Buffalo |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Days of Forty Nine From: Pene Azul Date: 10 Jun 00 - 05:01 PM Thanks Jeri, Somehow I missed that. PA |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Days of Forty Nine From: GUEST,Gene Date: 10 Jun 00 - 04:57 PM I have one recorded by Arthur "Guitar Boogie" Smith called [THE FOOL'S OF '49]
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Days of Forty Nine From: Jeri Date: 10 Jun 00 - 03:21 PM It's also in the DT here. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Days of Forty Nine From: richardw Date: 10 Jun 00 - 01:09 PM There are version with many more verses.One of the great goldrush songs. As a matter of interest I we just recorded it on our new CD, Rough But Honest Miner, Richard Wright, vocals and Ken Hamm on guitar. richard
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Days of Forty Nine From: GUEST,Banjo Johnny Date: 10 Jun 00 - 02:46 AM Hi again Pene - thanks for your help! As you see, I got the title mixed up. Got your tip on the line break for next time. Johnny |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: The Days of Forty Nine From: Pene Azul Date: 10 Jun 00 - 02:42 AM See Gold Miners' Songs
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