Gardening can be dangerous

Subject: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 09:27 AM

Hello, everyone. I recently saw a message from someone concerning thread creep and asking why folks don't just start another thread if they want to talk about something else instead of changing the subject. Having been guilty of doing this but also thinking that what I spoke of might be helpful to someone, I think it bears repeating.

I seem to remember that quite a few of you enjoy gardening. Just a few days ago, one of my neighbours lost two fingers because he was trying to remove a stick from under his lawn mower without turning it off. I'd just like to say to those of you who like to garden, please:

Keep your tetanos vaccination up to date; don't wear jewelry while working in your garden; wear a good sunscreen; when mowing lawns, wear socks, shoes, trousers and preferably a long-sleeved shirt; drink enough water while gardening during hot weather; watch out for things like poison ivy, sumac or oak and learn how to identify them; make sure garden tools are in good working order; don't stay out in the sun during the hottest hours of the day; keep animals and children away from things like mowers and garden products. . . . . . and so on and so forth. Sorry if this sounds obvious or patronising, but I hear about garden accidents all the time over here in rural France. Nearly a hundred people die of tetanos contracted while gardening in this country every year! Be careful and . . . happy gard

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 09:43 AM

Agreed, Auxiris. I impaled myself on a rake while running shrieking from an earthworm the size of Kansas. But my tetanus shot was up to date and the neighbors agreed to forget the incident.

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 09:59 AM

Hi, Sinsull; I forgot to mention that tools such as rakes should be placed points down or, better yet, be hung back up in the tool shed when not in use. Glad to hear it was an earthworm and not a coral snake or something! I'll always remember Gamble Rogers reciting:

"Red on black, friend of Jack; red on yellow, kill a fellow; black on head, you're dead."

cheers, Aux

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,art
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 10:43 AM

a proper sort of gardener?

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 01:35 PM

We do some really stupid thing while gardening or working in the yard don't we?

A few years ago, Karen got 6 stitches in a finger from cutting back some lavender. Evidently she couldn't tell which was which. Her Dad, a real dumbass of major magnitude, lost half a foot under his mower. Some dimbulb that used to live down in the next block filled his mower with gas while it was running. A teacher at the school slashed his knee REAL badly when a chainsaw kicked back. Weedeaters throw up a ton of stuff and we get real cavalier with them. Not to mention good ol' Poison Ivy. Karen got into some of it and I still can't find anywhere its growing....but its there.

Pave your yard.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 01:44 PM

I ran a children's garden for years and once decided to put in some cleome - tall, white flowers and bean pods filled with seeds to collect for next year.

HOWEVER - the wind took over and the stuff spread all over the formal gardens too making me very popular with the "garden ladies" and later with the police.

Be forewarned, cleome looks very much like marijuana. Between the local teens hopping the fence to steal plants and the police tapping on doors to check on our garden, I was in serious trouble. Garden Ladies have no sense of humor.

They also sputtered and steamed when the pumpkin vine got out of control, climbed a pear tree (which I had donated) and produced pumpkins in the limbs. I love gardening.

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Vixen
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 01:46 PM

Dear Aux--

I've been looking for this mnemonic for AGES!!! Thank you...can you tell me which snakes it's referring to???

V

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 01:52 PM

I am not Aux, but it is coral snakes and milk snakes.

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 01:52 PM

Coral snake.....very deadly, and a variety of King snake which is not.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Bert
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:23 PM

SINSULL,

I bet your local teens, got a surprise when they tried to smoke the stuff. And I know the police have a reputation for being a little slow, but not being able to tell cleome from marijuana!! That's a good one.

I think I'll grow some cleome right away. I'll make sure that the neighbors report me a few times. Then when the local constabulary gets fed up with checking on me I'll be in the clear to grow some marijuana.

Bert. (Heh! Heh! Heh! in my best villains voice.)

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:30 PM

I wanted to raise money for the Children's Garden by potting small plants and selling them with no claim as to what they were. I got voted down. Some nonsense about antagonizing the local dealers (and they didn't mean nurseries). Incredible how dangerous gardening really is.

My favorite "stupid gardening idea" involves two neighbors who decided to trim the hedge between their homes with an electric lawn mower. Believe it or not, they both picked it up, held it over the hedge and proceeded to cut off nine fingers apiece. The EMAs had a hell of a time putting the puzzle back together.

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Pene Azul
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:43 PM

There must be a song here somewhere. Hmmmm...

Watch how you handle that mower
You could chop off a finger or toe or
You might get too careless and fidget
And sever your masculine digit

Sorry,
PA

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Gary T
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 03:02 PM

I recall hearing that years ago Sears got sued (successfully, I believe) because some fool did what Sinsull described above with a Craftsman mower, and after all, there wasn't any warning not to do that!. Since then, of course, mowers supposedly have warning label advising to not pick them up while they're running.

My question is, how stupid do you have to be to try that?

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Rosebrook
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 03:45 PM

Last year, I was doing some digging to replace plumbing line and needed the pruning clippers to cut away some roots. Well, that one odd-colored root turned out to be an electrical line. ZOWEE! Good thing I was using the rubber handled clippers!

Careful whatcha clip!

Rose

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 03:56 PM

One that gets me on gardining safety is I have seen people using strimmers/brush cutters or whatever other names they go by without using eye protection. I once smashed a car window (my parents car) when a piece of stone flew up - believe me, if a bit does kick out the wrong way, it is potentially very dangerous.

Jon

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 04:09 PM

Heard the same about banjo strings tuned too tight, Jon. You can lose an eye that way.

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 04:10 PM

My garden when I moved here was full of giant hogweed. Huge things, the one next door is presently in full flower, and stands a good 6 feet tall. Has big leaves like a rhubarb but jagged, and is quite harmless unless you try to cut it down on a sunny day. Get some of the sap on your hands and then expose the hand to sunlight, and you have your own little flesh eating compound.... really great stuff to have with children around - NOT!!

My local doctors' surgery has the highly poisonous aconitum growing outside it..... commonly known as Monks Hood, it has dark purple flowers shaped like hoods, and is very poisonous. Suppose the surgery is the right place for it to grow!!

LTS

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Penny S.
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 04:30 PM

Living near the old medicine fields of a much taken over philanthropic drugs firm, there used to be a number of plants of Deadly Nightshade growing around the town. I haven't looked lately. Some of them were rather near the old location of the folk club!

Penny

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 05:31 PM

When we moved in here, there was Delphinium (aconite) all over the yard. Took two seasons to get it dug up, but it is all gone now. A person can break his neck falling out of a rocking chair, I guess the biggest problem us Common Sense.........Think before you Do!!

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 10:13 PM

Wish I had you around before I decided to plug the TV into a grounded outlet and then screw in the grounding screw. The brass plate dropped on the plug and shorted and I woke up on the other side of the room. Now I call the super to change a light bulb.

I have a problem with electricity. A few years ago in a snowstorm I stopped to make a phone call from a pay phone in the Village (Greenwich). I got a minor shock when dialing and thought I had imagined it. The a jolt went through me and I dropped the phone screaming. It was a crowded street and in typical New York fashion they all pretended not to notice the demented woman screaming in the slush on the ground and trying to avoid the swinging receiver.My hand had a small burn. I struggled to my feet, recovered my phone book and briefcase and found another payphone to report to the phone company that I had almost been killed (If I had had a heart condition I might have). The response: "That's not our phone. Go back and dial 'O'. Their operator will help you." When I suggested that I would probably get another shock, I got "I'm sorry. We can't help you."

And you thought gardening was dangerous.

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: rangeroger
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 12:05 AM

I have definitely learned to use eye protection when using a string weed trimmer.In one Park I worked in,Springtime was always a joy as the grass and weeds would be 3 feet high where I couldn't get to them with the mower.Of course the dogs loved the high grass too, and there is nothing like getting into a pile of fresh dog crap with your trimmer at full throtle.
rr

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 12:59 AM

Have dogs,been there, done that, not funny.

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: ol'troll
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 01:18 AM

And nothing beats running your lawnmower over a ground-wasp's nest. Especially if you are as allergic to the blasted things as I am!

Let's hear it for asphalt.

troll

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 01:34 AM

Yeah troll, I hear ya'............

So, for the rest of you, here's some advice. Never mow over a colony of ground hornets while wearing baggy shorts without underwear. It'll make you do some serious struttin' and that's a fact.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Rollo
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 01:46 AM

I was out in the fields one day and felt a certain pressure down below the stomach, so I went to the hedge, opened my zipper and started business. What I hadn't seen was the wire running along between some big farn weeds. And what I also hadn't recogniced was the yellow box about ten metres to the right which was connected to this wire. Well. When the trembling stopped finally I found I had not only had one of nastiest experiences man hopes not to have but I had to change trousers AND shirt, not having being able to hold direction any longer.

I assure you, cows know why they only once try to break an electric fence.

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 02:05 AM

Yeah Rollo, I seem to have been THERE too. After hitting a ball out of bounds at a local golf course, the girl I was with decided to play another. Coming from a family that ALWAYS went looking, I magnamiously said I'd be happy to retrieve it. I put my hand on the fence post and stepped across the low fence. My inseam is 30" and I can now say with some accuracy that the fence height was probably about 31". It was a shocking experience and I reassessed which balls had my highest priority on the spot.

And speaking of rakes (back up the thread) and golf, common courtesy demands that you rake the sand trap and leave the rake PRONGS DOWN. This can ruin an otherwise fine round and result in giving this answer when asked, "How was your round?"

"The best two balls I hit all day was when I stepped on a sand rake."

Spaw

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: ol'troll
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 02:13 AM

Spaw. In re. the baggy shorts, AMEN BROTHER!!!

troll

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Grab
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 09:10 AM

Re the dog crap, that's a big problem in winter when you're building a snowman, as I remember. Roll your snowball around the garden a bit, and you end up with unpleasant brown bits, and shite all over your gloves.

Grab.

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 09:40 AM

I've done the wasps nest one but fortunately it was only my ankles that got stung (several times). I don't react as badly as some but I do have to take anti-hyst-whatsitscalled? tablets to bring the swelling down.

Jon

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 10:40 AM

This has to be the only place in the world where a Gardening chat turns into urinating on high voltage cables. What would Martha Stewart say? HMMMM Probably "I have a recipe for fried meat balls...."

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 06:09 PM

Oh 'Spaw, once I get over the hysterics, I'll send sympathy - not a happy bunny picture there!

And try hand cutting a (admittedly rather small) lawn, whilst kneeling, with the knowledge that there are 11 or more cats, not including your own 2, that use it as a sort of public lavatory. Living dangerously was never so fraught......

LTS

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 06:26 PM

THis is great you guy's!! Smith & Hawkin has been after me to write a gardening book.. I think the tytle alone will sell a ton of copies..I like "GArdening Can Be Dangerous" but how about "Adventures in GArdening"<>><> That mite be another great name.More soon, Guy

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 07:06 PM

How about the Rakes Progress with suitable illustration....

Compost Mentis?

A Gardeners lament for her fingernails??

OK, I'll go back to bed now....

LTS

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 06:04 AM

Hello, everyone. . . Have been off line (yes, gardening) for the last two days. I have to admit having laughed at the various descriptions of garden and other mishaps, though not the accidents themselves, especially things like mowing over wasp/hornet nests, since I too am allergic to the damned things. I hadn't mentioned the dangers of strimmers flinging objects about, but thanks those of you who did. . . went straight out and bought eye protectors so that I can use them the next time I tackle the weeds in the orchard!

cheers, Aux

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 07:13 AM

agrees with the advice...

I did some gardening this weekend, and sorted out my over grown herb garden.

I noticed the next day, that I had lots of specs on my fingers....

And a little digging around I discovered, that I am plastered with thorns even though I had gloves on.

So have spent many a few hours since pulling them out, and cursing my neighbour for being worse at keeping his weeds down than me. They were his blasted thorns .

Ella

Sore fingers and not playing the guitar for a while

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 04:15 PM

Ella, I'm sorry to hear about your misadventure while weeding out your herb garden. What on earth were the weeds that gave you all the trouble? I had similar problems with thistles that were growing in and around my experimental iris hybrids, as I can't wear gloves when weeding the iris crowns 'cause gloves catch on the leaves and break them. Ended up with thistle spikes in my fingers and couldn't play instruments OR do any more weeding for a few days.

cheers, Aux

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 04:59 PM

Forgot to mention that the coral snake look-alike is the scarlet king snake:

". . . your principal asked that I remind you once again that those of us who live in the tropic zones should always be aware of the DIFFERENCE between the dread coral snake and his harmless and colourful cousin, the scarlet king snake. . . "

(Gamble Rogers, speaking about "Nostalgia")

cheers, Aux

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: roopoo
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 03:43 AM

I've just PURPOSELY planted an aconite! Foxgloves, datura and laburnum are all bad too

Liz - the worst thing with kids and Hogweed is that the little darlings like to use the stems as pea shooters!

The worst accident so far in the garden with me (bearing in mind that being female I may have a bit more ground-clearance when it comes to fencing!) was when I decided to clear what had been an old apology for a rock garden and make it into a normal bed. My house is built on the site of an old barn. It was pulled down just over 100 years ago, and a pair of semi-detached cottages built (Victorian "in-filling", now one house). Being built on the old fold-yard/barn area, there isn't much in the way of top soil before all the rubbish underneath (12-18 inches). I went in with a sprung steel fork and hit a half-brick. It wasn't until the next day that the jarring in my wrist bore fruit: I had my forearm strapped for three weeks, and for the first week I could barely write. It was at the end of that time I started playing the melodeon wearing both straps to take the strain.

I've come to terms with my largely awful (sub)soil, and I just keep lobbing on pelleted poultry muck, organic compost and free horsemuck from my obliging neighbours. I'm hoping that spuds might break up some of the claggy stuff this year. Seaweed extract didn't really help.

I have got a really weird book which was written during WW2 in England and published by a small independent publisher. It's hilarious, and deals with this guy's attempts to garden when he knows absolutely diddly-squat about anything, but thinks he does. I think at one point he managed to flood the garden! "Tubers and Taradiddle - or The Gardener's Entertainment" by Donald Cowie, published 1944 by The Tantivy Press, Malvern.

By the way, there is another, published by one of the daily newspapers at the same time, called "Patsy's Progress". It deals with a young married couple and how mum teaches Patsy to cook, while dad shows her husband how to garden. It was wonderful reading for me as a child, but my mum hasn't got it any more. It was written in strip cartoon style, and the book is probably the collection of what was printed in the papers. (There's a copy in our village and I know who has it!) Anyone got a copy they want to part with?

mouldy

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 11:33 AM

All I can say is that I sincerely hope we all survive the summer with nothing worse than a sunburn or two and busted fingernails! One of the other people who has a vegetable garden just below my iris garden in central France tells me that we can't expect anything good out of a year with 13 moons. . .

cheers, Aux

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 02:48 PM

Aux,

You said that for Spaw's benefit, didn't you? Let's see how long it takes him to come up with a solution to the 13 moon problem.

SS

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 06:02 AM

Well, yes, Sinsull . . . I was sort of hoping for a smart remark or two. Knew I was taking a chance when I mentioned moons.

cheers, Aux

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 03:19 AM

Well what do you expect for the final year! Doesn't that make one of them a blue moon? Will it affect my bay tree? - Actually, all four trees in my garden are burgeoning - the bay has gone from being a twig to a four foot leafy thing, the Christmas tree actually has needles on it for the first time in 2 years, the Pittisporum will need pollarding soon and the holly tree has so many berries, the birds will eat themselves sick on them.

Then there are the two yew trees in pots - The Church of England decided to do 'Yews for the Millennium, and propagated a whole bunch of trees from a couple of sources that are guaranteed 1000 years or more. This is all part of a project (thanks to David Bellamy) to get yews back into churchyards. I've 'acquired' two of them, for my church, and they reside in my garden in pots. They've doubled in height in 6 months...... My first church in the village I grew up in, has a yew that is at least 600 years old. They were planted to keep cows off the tombs, and as the most important people were buried 'nearer to God' i.e., at the East end of the church, that's where most of the single yews will be found. Trouble is, not many churches, particularly city churches, have space for a yew tree these days - they can spread across 60 feet and drain the water table.... great when your foundations crack! Besides, building regulations state that you can't knowingly plant a tree so close to a building that it will interfere with the foundations.

LTS

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 09:00 AM

Hi, Liz. The neighbour gardener didn't say what colour the moon would be, only that we "shouldn't expect anything good from it". Our garden(s) seem to be in fine shape in spite of dire predictions, I must say. Glad to hear that your trees are doing well. . . are the yew trees that you speak of the same type of tree that bows were made from? Amazing to think they should live that long!

Yet another (admittedly obscure) warning for those of you who like to wear a rolled-up bandana around your forehead to keep sweat out of your eyes: be careful what colour you choose. Learned the hard way early this morning that some stinging insects apparently appreciate colours like yellow or orange. I'm just back from the hospital--yep, had to call out the emergency folks 'cause my anti-venom kit was expired (check the expiration dates, those of you who are unfortunate enough to be allergic to insect stings)--and my right eye is still swollen nearly shut from stings received before I could reach the house. So much for warning everyone else to be careful! Live and learn.

cheers, Aux

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 09:15 AM

Well if you will dress as a giant wasp, what do you expect! Hope you are better now, I'm an in between case, my next wasp sting may be painful, or it may be life threatening! Oh, the joys of anticipation....

I've found that wearing dull green or blue works best. The darker the colour, the less atractive it is. And don't ever wear a dark dress with big white spots or daisies printed on it - you will be smothered!! The contrast of white on dark is really attractive to butterflies, bees and wasps. Using a citrusy smelling deoderant often helps, All Spice (ah, remember that?) was best at repelling gnats and mosquitoes, but Lynx and that one that supposedly has strangers giving you flowers are very nice to bees....

Staying neat the compost heap is probably not a good idea.

Mind you, they say wasps eat greenfly, so they are good creatures. Takes all sorts.

LTS

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 09:23 AM

Yes, Aux, bright colors do attract the little devils. Re: the bites and stings. I found out a couple of years ago that I am allergic to spider bites.

I had received a severe sunburn while on vacation in Antigua.A few months later I found a strange growth on my arm and had it tested immediately. My doctor refused to give me the diagnosis over the phone - not a good sign. In his office, he preceded the lab reports with "This has to be a mistake". Supposedly I had a rare form of skin cancer and had weeks to live. However, I would have been comotose if the diagnosis were correct. Several tests and specialists later, it turned out that I had been bitten by a common house spider and the growth was a reaction to it. It disappeared after a few months and I kept the lab reports to remind me of the fragility of my world.

White reflects light and heat and doesn't attract bees. It's tough to clean after a sweaty day in the garden (I for one hate those "Gardening Ladies" who come in as clean as they went out). I tend to wallow in the dirt and have dirty finger nails even with cotton AND plastic gloves on.

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 09:34 AM

OK, so how do the little buzztards know when I'm wearing my green dress with the white tye dye blobs on then. I had seven bees on me at one point.....!

And yes, it is the yew that English Longbows are made of. You'll have to wait about 300 years before you make any out of my two trees though....... Altogher now - 'You made me love yew'........!

And as for gardening ladies - that's just it, they are ladies who wouldn't know an asparagus trench if they fell into it, have never mixed concrete with their feet and think that double digging is a sort of cocktail..... I have muddy fingers even as I type - but for once in the UK, it is actually too hot to go outside!

LTS

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 03:50 AM

Hello, Liz and Sinsull. . . saw your messages last night, but was still feeling kind of shaky (shock, said the medics) so I apologise for not having manifested my presence then. Thanks for the useful advice; I just didn't stop to think that I shouldn't be putting a bright coloured thing on my head yesterday morning. . . will stick to brown/khaki/navy blue or, why not, army camouflage garments from now on, promise! I also now have a new (in date!) anti-venom kit and supply of anti-histamine pills should I get zapped again. The rest of you who are allergic to insect stings, I hope you'll learn from my misfortune! It's a jungle out there!

cheers, Aux

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 06:45 AM

Glad you are feeling better, take care from now on and stop that naughty rolling in honey.....!

Don't you think though, that camouflage might prove a bit awkward if anyone want to prune the shrubbery - you might find yourself short of a limb or two......

LTS

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: GUEST,Auxiris
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 03:51 PM

Feeling much better indeed now, thanks. More concerned about the painful impact last year's horse chestnuts make on various parts of the body when whipped up off the ground by the strimmer than whether or not someone will trim off one of my limbs because I'm wearing camouflage, though. . .

cheers, Aux

Subject: RE: Gardening can be dangerous
From: rangeroger
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 11:34 PM

With the creeping movement North of the Africanized honey bees from South America ( Killer Bees ) people are learning to not wear black when near them.Many of the deaths were to people wearing black clothing,including white with black polka dots, and witnesses reported the black colors appeared to enrage the swarms.
rr