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Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat - Hi, I, Aye, or what?

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LEATHERWING BAT
THE HAWK AND THE CROW


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Tune Req: Leatherwing Bat (11)


Whippoorwill 15 Jul 97 - 03:29 PM
Sharon 15 Jul 97 - 04:09 PM
dick greenhaus 15 Jul 97 - 04:46 PM
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Ira 07 Dec 00 - 11:10 PM
Bill D 08 Dec 00 - 12:23 AM
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GUEST,Bruce O. 08 Dec 00 - 04:22 PM
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Desert Dancer 21 Mar 03 - 09:23 PM
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Subject: Leather-winged Bat
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 15 Jul 97 - 03:29 PM

I can't find a reference to this song on DT. I remember hearing Burl Ives sing it on one of his early (78rpm) albums, but haven't heard it in years. The first verse goes something like:

I, said the little leather-winged bat, I'll tell you the reason that; The reason that I fly (cry?) in the night Is because I've lost my heart's delight.

Another verse started, "I, said the woodpecker, sitting on a limb...," but the rest of it is lost in the haze. Can somebody help?


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: Sharon
Date: 15 Jul 97 - 04:09 PM

I checked in my Burl Ives Song Book - 1953. A pretty extensive collection, but it's not in there. Any other Burl lIves tunes you want???


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 15 Jul 97 - 04:46 PM

It's there. Try a search for bat.


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 15 Jul 97 - 05:20 PM

Got it. Thanks, Dick. You, too, Sharon.


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Subject: Leather Winged Bat--help w/lyrics
From: GUEST,Mrbisok@aol
Date: 07 Dec 00 - 09:07 PM

I'm working with the version of this song performed by the Smith Sisters. I need help with these lines:
    Said the hawk unto the crow one day
    So why do you in nourning stay?
    I was ___________ and it didn't grow back
    And ever since... OK -- I know this

    Well the next "harked up?" "jumped up?" was...the little Jenny wren,
    Oh what I'd do if I were a man
    In case one love should rise and go
    I'd wear_________________________
-- please help me fill in the blanks. Thanks


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Subject: RE: Leather Winged Bat--help w/lyrics
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 07 Dec 00 - 10:27 PM

Hmm. Went and found the version in the DT and it doesn't have either of those verses.

Now I'm vexed. Will see what I can find...

I've heard it "Next to come was the little jenny wren" but that was years ago at girl scout camp.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE HAWK AND THE CROW
From: harpgirl
Date: 07 Dec 00 - 10:53 PM

...is it this one?...

THE HAWK AND THE CROW

Said the hawk unto the crow one day
Why do you in mourning stay?
I was once in love and I didn't prove fact
And ever since I wear the black

cho: Ri-the-diddle, ri-the-diddle, ri-the-diddle-dum
Ri-the-diddle, ri-the-diddle, ri-the-diddle-dum
I was once in love and I didn't prove fact
And ever since I wear the black

And next there spoke the Willy Wagtail
I was once in love and I did prevail
I was once in love and I did prevail
And ever since I wag my tail

And next there spoke the little brown thrush
Who was sitting in yon holly bush
The way to court I've heard them say
Is to court all night and sleep the next day.

And last there spoke the Jeannie Wran
Do you know what I'd do if I was a man?
For fear that one would wriggle and go
I would wear two strings upon my bow

From Folksongs of Britain and Ireland, Kennedy
Collected from Liam O'Connor 1953


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Subject: RE: Leather Winged Bat--help w/lyrics
From: Ira
Date: 07 Dec 00 - 11:10 PM

Try this link: http://www.contemplator.com/child/birdsong.html It is the longest version I have seen, but It doesn't have your stanzas.


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Subject: RE: Leather Winged Bat--help w/lyrics
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Dec 00 - 12:23 AM

stanzas to that song proliferate like verses to "Old Time Religion",,,they are short, easy to construct, and everyone has had a go at adding a couple...look at a big list, pick YOUR favorites, and sing...


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Subject: RE: Leather Winged Bat--help w/lyrics
From: BanjoRay
Date: 08 Dec 00 - 03:31 PM

I think Pete Seeger used to sing
In case one of them should rise and go
I'd get me a new string to my bow

It is, however, a long time since I heard it!

Cheers
Ray


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Subject: RE: Leather Winged Bat--help w/lyrics
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 08 Dec 00 - 04:22 PM

There were a lot of verses by the end of the 17th century, as there were already 3 versions of the song: "The Woody Querristers", "The Birds Harmony", and "The Birds Lamentation". I've given the one (The Woody Querristers) that looks to me closest to traditional versions in the Scarce Songs 1 file on my website (Mudcat's Links). Also interesting is "The Birds Noats on May Day Last" where the birds relate to each other the doings of young (human) lovers they had observed.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE LEATHERWING BAT
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 08:46 PM

Aye, said the little leather-winged bat
I'll tell you the reason that
The reason that I fly in the night
Is because I lost my heart's delight

How-de dow-dy diddle-oh day
How-de dow-dy diddle-oh day
In the ho-do-dee de-diddle-de-oh

Aye said the woodpecker sittin' on the fence
Once I courted the handsome wench
She got saucy and from me fled
Ever since then, my head's been red

How-de dow-dy diddle-oh day
How-de dow-dy diddle-oh day
In the ho-do-dee de-diddle-de-oh

Aye, said the bluebird as she flew
If I were a young man, I'd have two
One got saucy wanted to go
I'd have a new string for my bow

How-de dow-dy diddle-oh day
How-de dow-dy diddle-oh day
How-de dow-dy diddle-oh day
In the ho-do-dee de-diddle-de-oh


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 09:23 PM

Like they said, it's here, under Leatherwing Bat.


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 10:09 PM

It's a nice little song, one my Dad used to sing to us at bedtime.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: masato sakurai
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 10:31 PM

Another version is THE HAWK AND THE CROW.

See also The Traditional Ballad Index: Bird's Courting Song, The (The Hawk and the Crow; Leatherwing Bat).

~Masato

Bird's Courting Song, The (The Hawk and the Crow; Leatherwing Bat)

DESCRIPTION: Various birds talk about their attempts at courting, and the effects of their successes and failures. Example: "Said the hawk to the crow one day, Why do you in mourning stay, I was once in love and I didn't prove fact, And ever since I wear the black."
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: before 1733 (broadside, Bodleian Harding Douce Ballads 2(243b)); other broadsides appear to date back to the seventeenth century "Woody Querristers" in the Roxburge collection
KEYWORDS: bird courting nonballad
FOUND IN: Ireland US(Ap,MW,NE,SE,So)
REFERENCES (14 citations):
Randolph 275, "The Crow Song" (5 texts, 1 tune, but only the first three texts are this piece, with the "B" and "C" texts mixing with "The Crow Song (I)")
BrownIII 152, "Birds Courting" (3 texts plus an excerpt; the "D" text may be mixed); also 156, "Said the Blackbird to the Crow" (the "D" text mixes this with "The Crow Song (I)")
JHCoxIIB, #20, pp. 170-171, "Pourquoi" (1 text, tune, probably amplified as it carefully has birds of all colors including some rarely encountered in nature)
Scarborough-NegroFS, p. 193, (no title) (1 fragment, probably this)
SharpAp 215, "The Bird Song" (2 texts, 2 tunes)
Kennedy 295, "The Hawk and the Crow" (1 text, 1 tune)
Lomax-FSUSA 4, "Leatherwing Bat" (1 text, 1 tune)
Sharp/Karpeles-80E 73, "The Bird Song" (1 text, 1 tune)
Botkin-NEFolklr, pp. 573-574, "Bird's Courting Song" (1 text, 1 tune)
Abrahams/Foss, pp. 90-91, "Bird Song" (1 text, 1 tune)
Silber-FSWB, p. 397, "Leatherwing Bat" (1 text)
BBI, ZN968, "Give ear you lads and lasses all" (?); ZN2037, "Oh says the Cuckoo, loud and stout"; ZN2038, "Oh says the Cuckoo loud and stout"
DT, LEATRBAT* LEATHBA2*
ADDITIONAL: Bell/O Conchubhair, Traditional Songs of the North of Ireland, pp. 49-51, "The Hawk and the Crow" (1 text, 1 tune)

Roud #747
RECORDINGS:
Virgil Sandage, "The Birds' Song" (on FineTimes)
Pete Seeger, "Leatherwing Bat" (on PeteSeeger09, PeteSeegerCD02) (on PeteSeeger32)

BROADSIDES:
Bodleian, Douce Ballads 2(243b), "The Woody Queresters" or "The Birds Harmony" ("Oh! says the cuckoo, loud and stout")[some words illegible], T. Norris (London), 1711-1732; also Douce Ballads 1(17b), "The Birds Lamentation"; Douce Ballads 3(110a), Douce Ballads 3(108a), "The Woody Choristers" or "The Birds Harmony" in two parts
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "Hind Horn" [Child 17] (tune)
cf. "The Crow Song" (floating lyrics)
cf. "The Old Man at the Mill" (floating lyrics)
cf. "The Bird-Catcher's Delight" (tune, per broadside Bodleian Douce Ballads 1(17b))
NOTES: Cox's "Pourquoi" title is, in effect, the French term for "Just So Story"; Cox applied it because the piece he collected (in Missouri, though from an informant born in Kentucky) had no title. - RBW
File: K295

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The Ballad Index Copyright 2014 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle.


Copy-pasted from the link cited above.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 10:55 PM

Folks - there are some "strange-things" going on at the MudCat.

Why is this very well-known thread ---- so short?

This is a "classic song " resurected by an unknown "GUEST"

Perhaps, it is the "Laugh-Kat's" weekend to be a clone?

Burl Ives Song in America, First Edition, 1962, Wayfarer Music Co. Inc. has Leather Wing Bat on page 113,114,115. Acknowledgment is given to Southern Music from their folio Children's Songs

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

I smell a kat trying to catch a gargoyle....hear pussy, pussy, pussy?


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: masato sakurai
Date: 21 Mar 03 - 11:17 PM

Also in The Burl Ives Sing-Along Song Book (Watt, 1963, p. 98; lyrics only).


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: Hippie Chick
Date: 22 Mar 03 - 04:29 PM

There's a good version on the album Peter Paul and Mommy by P. P and Mary.


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: Bruce
Date: 22 Mar 03 - 05:10 PM

A nice version was done by Phil Cooper and Margaret Nelson on their 1995 CD The Only Dance We Know. Phil has been know to hang out here on occasion ... hi Phil ...


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 22 Mar 03 - 05:25 PM

See the Contemplator for more verses of this old song- "The Bird Song." No, the bat isn't a bird, but this is a folk song.

Contemplator: The Bird Song

Tracing it to "Three Ravens" in Child may be stretching a bit. "Says the Blackbird" is a minstrel version acc. to Contemplator.


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 22 Mar 03 - 05:34 PM

More verses in thread 18549: Bird Song
Contemplator suggests that it goes back to the 17th century- See Bruce Olsen, Scarce Songs 1.


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Subject: RE: Leather-winged Bat
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 22 Mar 03 - 05:47 PM

Bruce Olson site, Little Yellow winged Bat or "The Woody Querristers": Little yellow winged bat (I hope)

Scroll to Little yellow winged bat.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE WOODY CHORISTERS (from Bodleian)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 02:50 PM

No one has posted the 17-early 18c. song, mentioned in Pepys, which is perhaps the earliest containing the Leather-winged bat verse. I have copied this from the Bodleian Collection, with additions from the 17th c. "The Woody Querristers" which is included in the Olson website (linked above).

Lyr. Add: THE WOODY CHORISTERS
Tune: The Bird-catchers Delight

Introduction:
When birds could speak, and Women they
Had neither good nor bad to say,
The pretty Birds then fill'd with Pain,
Did to each other thus Complain.

Oh! says the cockow, loud and stout,
I fly the country round about;
While other Birds my young ones feed,
And I myself do stand in need.

Then says the sparrow on her nest,
I lov'd a Lass but it was in jest;
And ever since that self same Thing,
I made a vow I ne'er would sing.

In came the Robin, and thus he said,
I lov'd once a well-favour'd maid;
Her beauty kindled such a Spark,
That on (her-sic) my breast I bear the Mark.
*[my]

Then said the Lark upon the grass,
I lov'd once a Country Lass;
She would not hear her true Love sing,
Although his Voice would please a King.

Then said the Black-bird, as she fled,
I lov'd one, but she is dead;
And ever since my Love I [do] lack,
This is the Cause I mourn in Black.

Oh! said the bonny Nightingale,
Then must I end my mournful tale;
Whilst others sing I sit and mourn,
Leaning my Breast against a Thorn.

Oh! [Ah!] says (?) the Water-wagtail then,
I ne'er shall be my self again;
I lov'd one but could not prevail,
This is the Cause I wag my Tail.

Then said the party-colour'd Jay, [pritty-colour'd]
My dearest Love is fled away;
And [in] Remembrance of my Dear,
A Feather of ev'ry Sort I wear.

Then said the Leather-winged Batt,
Mind but my Tail [tale], and I'll tell you what
Is the Cause that I fly by Night;
Because I lost my Heart's Delight.

Then said the Greenfinch, as she flew,
I lov'd one that prov'd untrue,
And since he can no more be seen,
Like a Love-sick Maid I turn to Green.
[Green-Bird]

Then did [begin] the chattering Swallow,
My Love he's [she's] fled, but I would not follow,
And now upon the Chimney high,
I sing forth my poor Melody.

Oh! says the Owl, my Love is gone,
That I so much did doat upon;
I know not how my Love to follow,
But after her I hoop and bollow. [hollow]

*[Then says the lapwing as she flies,
I search the Meads and the Skies:
But cannot find my love again,
So about I flie in deadly pain.]

Then says the Thrush, I squeak and sing,
Which doth to me no Comfort bring;
For oftentimes I at Midnight
Record my Love and Heart's Delight.

The Canary Bird she then came in,
To tell her tale she did begin;
I am of my dear Love bereft,
So I have my own Country left.

The Goldfinch [Chafinch] then began to speak,
For Love, quoth she, my Heart will break,
I grieve so for my only dear,
I sing but two Months in the Year.

Then quoth the Magpy, I was cross'd
In Love and now my dear is lost;
And wanting of my Heart's Delight,
I mourn for her in Black and White.

Oh! says the Rook, and eke the Crow,
The Reason why in Black we go,
It is, because we are forsook,
Come pity us, poor Crow and Rook.

The Bulfinch he was in a rage,
And nothing could his Wrath assuage;
So then in Woods he would not dwell,
But spends his Time in a loansome Cell.

Thus you have heard the Birds Complaint,
Taking delight in their Restraint;
Let this to all a pattern be,
For to delight in Constancy.

Second Part

Once I down lay
One morning in May,
My hands they being coupled fast;
My Heart did rejoice,
To hear the sweet Voice
Of the Birds singing as they did pass.

First the Nightingale,
Told all in good Part,
In the following Words most plain;
Prithee kind Heart,
Take all in good Part,
And love when thou art lov'd again.

Then spoke Titty Tom,
There's many a Man,
Whose Notes change nine Times in a Day.
Oh! then said the Reed,
There's many Women,
That do change as often as they,
Then replyed the Crow,
If it always be so,
Upon Proof I will forfeit my Head;
For a Man so unjust,
No Woman can trust
Until the same Day he be dead.

Then spoke the Magpy,
Give me Reason why,
You so rashly judge of all Men;
To which said rhe lark,
I do speak from my Heart,
That Women are far worse than them.

Softly spoke the Dove,
I rejoice'd once my Love,
My Love he was loving and kind,
Oh! reply'd the Rook,
I'.. be sworn on a book,
Such another you never will find.

Then spoke the hoary Jay,
I care not one Straw,
Since that I can choose my own mate;
Reply'd the old Thrush,
You shall have her in a Bush,
Or take her in a lower rate (?).

Oh! then said the Duck,
May you have better luck,
Than a Man that once I did know;
When he was from Home,
Came another in's Room,
Since we frequently hear the Cuckow.

Douce Ballads 3(108a); undated, but more clearly printed than T. Norris, London, 1711-1732, Douce Ballads 2(243b).

*[ ] additions from Olson, Scarce Ballads I. "This expands the earlier "The Birds Harmony, Pepys, IV, 268, published by Mary Coles, Vere, Wright, Clarke, Thackeray and Passinger (1681-2). This latter was sung to "The Delights of the Bottle" and has six-line stanzas. Later is another version," The Birds Lamentation," Printed by P. Brooksby, (1685-96), Pepys IV, p. 269."

http://users.erols.com/olsonw/SONGTXT1.HTM


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat
From: Joe_F
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 07:39 PM

It's also in the regrettably out of print _Coffee House Songbook_ (Oak, 1966), under the title "Leatherwing Bat (The Bird's Song)" and attributed to "Singers in the Tetons and New Orleans". Here are some odd stanzas:

Hi, said the jaybird sitting in the tree,
When I was a young man I had three,
Two got saucy and took to flight,
And the one that's left don't treat me right.

Hi, said the blackbird sitting on a chair,
Once I courted a lady fair,
She turned fickle and turned her back,
Ever since then I've dressed in black.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 08:29 PM

Two verses from Ozark Folk Songs, Randolph, sorted out from "The Crow Song," # 275. Verses from other songs often combined in North America. The sex of the singing bird often changed to male.

Well, says the peckerwood as he flew,
When I was young I courted too,
But she grew fickle and from me fled
An' ever since then my head's been red.

Oh said the bobwhite in the grass,
Once I courted a fair lady lass,
But she grew fickle and took to flight,
Ever since then I holler bobwhite.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat
From: Big Jim from Jackson
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 10:27 PM

Burl sings this on his "Wayfaring Stranger" album.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 11:12 PM

I got the version Margaret and I recorded from Cadzell's book. Picking and choosing the verses we should do. We re-recorded it with Kate Early adding some harmonies just recently. We would introduce the song as sometimes being called Congress of the Birds, not Congress for the Birds, that was this country... Who says traditional songs aren't relevant.


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Subject: RE: Leather Winged Bat--help w/lyrics
From: Seng
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:32 PM

What do the lyrics mean, "I would wear two strings upon my bow"?


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Subject: RE: Leather Winged Bat--help w/lyrics
From: KateG
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 10:04 AM

"two strings upon my bow" euphemism for having two lovers, neither of which knows about the other.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat - Hi, I, Aye, or what?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Oct 14 - 02:25 PM

The Digital Tradition version of this song is the one I've heard most often. I'd swear that it starts with the word "Hi" in most verses, but I've also seen it "I" and "Aye." Which is most common, and is there a correct one? To me, "I" just seems wrong. Am I right. Or was I wrong all along? And did I know I was wrong? (oh, wait, that's another song...)

Here's the DT version:

LEATHERWING BAT (DT)

Hi said the little leatherwing bat
I'll tell you the reason that
The reason that I fly in the night
Is because I lost my heart's delight

Howdy dowdy diddle all day
Howdy dowdy diddle all day
Howdy dowdy diddle all day
Lo lo lee da diddle lee o

Hi said the red bird sitting on a fence
Once I courted a handsome wench
She got saucy and from me fled
And ever since my head's been red

Hi said the bluebird as he flew
Once I courted a young gal too
She got saucy and wanted to go
And I got me a new string for my bow

Hi said the robin as he flew
When I was young I had two
If one wouldn't love me, the other would
Don't you think my notion's good

Hoot said the owl with eyes so bright
A lonesome day, a lonesome night
Thought I heard a pretty gal say
Court all night and sleep all day

Oh no no said the turtle dove
That's no way to gain your love
If you would have your heart's delight
Keep them awake both day and night

Hi said the little leatherwing bat
I'll tell you the reason that
The reason that I fly in the night
Is because I lost my heart's delight

@animal @kids @courtship
recorded by Dildine Family
filename[ LEATRBAT
TUNE FILE: LEATRBAT
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat - Hi, I, Aye, or what?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Oct 14 - 02:30 PM

Here's the version proposed for the Rise Again Group Singing Songbook. And I think it's wrong, just wrong....

Leatherwing Bat

"I" said the little leatherwing bat
"I'll tell to you the reason that
The reason that I fly by night
Is because I've lost my heart's delight"

Howdy dowdy diddle-dum day (3x)
Hey le lee-lee lie-lee low

//: Dm C / Dm F / - Dm / A* ADm :// (*extra beats on cho)

"I" said the blackbird sittin' on a chair
"Once I courted a lady, fair
She proved fickle & turned her back
And ever since then I've dressed in black"

"I" said the woodpecker sittin' on a fence
"Once I courted a handsome wench
She got scared & from me fled
And ever since then my head's been red"

"I" said the little turtle dove
"I'll tell you how to win her love
Court her night & court her day
Never give her time to say o-neigh!"

"I" said the bluejay & away he flew
"If I were a young man I'd have 2
If one were faithless & chanced to go
I'd add the other string to my bow"

trad. (English)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat - Hi, I, Aye, or what?
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Oct 14 - 03:25 PM

I've run across it in a number of song books and I know a couple of people who sing it. I have never heard it sung with anything other than, "Hi, said the (whatever)...."

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat - Hi, I, Aye, or what?
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Oct 14 - 03:33 PM

The words that Joe posted at 13 Oct 14 - 02:25 PM look real familiar to me, including the variation in the later verses. That's pretty much the way I've always seen / heard it.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat - Hi, I, Aye, or what?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 13 Oct 14 - 05:45 PM

"Which is most common, and is there a correct one?"

Burl Ives sang "Hi".

So did PPM, according to some printed versions: others give "I".

Judy Collins singing it on The Muppet Show (1977) well worth finding on You Tube; but she is greeted with "Hi" to begin each verse by the puppet of the creature concerned; so hardly a knockdown proof one way or other.

The Duhks sing "I".

Tommy Makem sang "Hi" on Bard Of Armagh, as I hear it.

I certainly recall "I" in a standard songbook I had once -- one of the famous ones. Possibly Sandburg's "American Songbag"?

Google "Leatherwing Bat lyrics" & you will find the index page that comes up about evenly divided.

But as to "a correct one". Come, now, Joe. "CORRECT"? I ask you:- Is that a concept to be applied to a traditional song?

Regards
≈Michael≈


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat - Hi, I, Aye, or what?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 14 - 01:03 AM

I KNEW I wouldn't get away with using the word "Correct," Michael....

I'm not saying what's correct, but "I" is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat - Hi, I, Aye, or what?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Oct 14 - 04:58 AM

Well, Joe, as another old song put it --

"Don't tell I, tell 'e!"

(Adge Cutler & The Wurzels 1968)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Leather-winged Bat - Hi, I, Aye, or what?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 14 - 02:16 PM

Whatever the "right" answer might be, I won my case - the editors of the Rise Again songbook agreed to use "Hi."

-Joe-


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Subject: ADD Version: Leatherwing Bat (compilation)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 14 - 03:51 PM

So, here is the version I submitted (but may change later). It's a compilation of verses I like best. It includes some verses that give equal billing to the distaff side. I hope that doesn't lapse into the Rise Up Singing first-edition political correctness (later corrected).

LEATHERWING BAT

Hi, said the little leatherwing bat
I'll tell you the reason that
The reason that I fly by night
Is because I lost my heart's delight

CHORUS
Howdy dowdy diddle-dum day (3x)
Hey le lee-lee lie-lee low


Hi, said the woodpecker sitting on a fence
Once I courted a handsome wench
She got saucy and from me fled
And ever since then my head's been red

Hi, said the blackbird sittin' on a chair
Once I courted a lady fair
She proved fickle & turned her back
And ever since then I've dressed in black

Hi, said the little bird so blue
Once I courted a young gal too
She got saucy and wanted to go
And I got me a new string for my bow

Hi, said the robin as she flew
When I was young I had two
If one wouldn't love me, the other would
Don't you think my notion's good

Hoot, said the owl with a head so white
A lonesome day, a lonesome night
Thought I heard some pretty gal say
She'd court all night and sleep all day

Oh no no, said the turtle dove
That's no way to gain his love
If you want to gain your heart's delight
Keep him awake both day and night

Hi, said the little leatherwing bat… ]


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