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Do 'tits book bands'?

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Subject: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Marion
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 09:11 PM

Do you think that a musician's appearance has much of a bearing on their chances of success in the music world?

Marion

PS If anyone's wondering about the "tits book bands" quote, it's from the movie Fame.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Mbo
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 09:17 PM

Merv Griffin was wildly popular as a performer in his time, but his face was rarely ever seen. In the video for "Run Around", Blues Traveler's very first song, the band was shown only for a few seconds...I guess lead singer John Popper though that if the kids all saw a 300lb man with a harmonica, they might think it uncool..but they slowly became more visible and became more possible, and suddenly it was real people making music, not just skinny pretty-boys.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Bud Savoie
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 09:31 PM

I don't get the thread title. I'm not sure I want to.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Brendy
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 09:31 PM

Spice Girls?

And all the clones?
It certainly helps, anyway.

Never wanted to have a pair, though.
It must be strange.

B.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Mbo
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 09:34 PM

That should be popular, not 'possible'.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Lox
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 09:34 PM

Miles Davis used to play with his back to the audience, being quite stubborn about not being there to be looked at, but to be listened to.

Unfortunately, that was over 20 years ago. Music is all about sponsorship these days, and you need models to wear the right clothes and sell the right soft drinks.

You might make a living, but you're not going to be Bono unless you look like Britney. (you may find that last sentence strange, and thats because it is. You get my drift though I hope)


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 09:39 PM

Well I'd like to say no but in all honesty, if I was booking a band, all other things being equal, a good looking female band member would encourage me to book them. I wonder how many of us can honestly say that we are not influenced to some degree or other on the subject of looks and physical attraction. I suspect that even though many people will argue that they are not, it is pretty well impossible for most of us to be completely impartial.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 10:42 PM

Brendy-

Strange indeed. On the other hand, some of us on the other team have a difficult (didn't say hard) time understanding how you manage your equipment. ; )

Carol


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: campfire
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:21 PM

A radio announcer here once said Phil Collins was proof you DON'T have to be attractive to become a rock star. (I don't know how Phil Collins felt about that statement)

campfire


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Brendy
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:25 PM

Wire brush and Dettol, Carol. It's yer only man

B.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Mbo
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:31 PM

There was this cool movie..can't remember the name..anyway, it was about these 4 girls who had a punk band, and used their looks and slutty clothes to get booked, then they'd go onstage and sing THEIR kind of music, sortoff a reflective hard edged singer songwriter style. But they start off every concert by raising their fists in the air and screaming "WE DON'T PUT OUT!!!" That was so cool! Tits may book bands, but it may have nothing to do with your style of music.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Oversoul
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:33 PM

My last "online" girlfriend told me she had had two breast reduction operations and still was not happy. I asked her why she just didn't have them both done at the same time. I never heard from her again. She liked "Backstreet Boys" and progressive blugrass. Was that a loss? Hmmm?


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Branwen23
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:50 PM

yes, tits book bands.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Lox
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:55 PM

Phil Collins?

Genesis?

1970's?

He's had over 25 years to become established. Give us someone contempotary. (remembering that 1990 was 10 years ago)


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Groucho Marxist (inactive)
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:57 PM

Mbo,

You say that Merv Griffin's "face was rarely ever seen." What makes you think that? Merv had a daily television show for many years. His face was constantly seen.

Groucho


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Mbo
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:58 PM

It was before that. I read about it in Paul Harvey's "Rest of The Story" book.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Oversoul
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 12:10 AM

...glands book bands, life goes on. Be jealous of folks with great intonation!


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Ely
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 12:25 AM

I think so, but maybe I'm just a disgruntled homely girl. I got ousted by a tall, winsome strawberry blonde who didn't know old-time guitar backup from a hole in her head.

I suppose I must favor a certain look in guy musicians, too, but I think I'm inclined to find them considerably more attractive once they prove they can play.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Mbo
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 12:34 AM

Aw, Ely, don't say you're homely. Beauty is subjective. And there's a lot more to being beautiful than physical appearance. From what I've heard, you are beautiful, and I don't think a visual image of you would change than. Sigh...If we could all be judged by things other than looks...

--Matt


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Bagpuss
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 04:37 AM

I saw the Belle and Sebastian spin off band, Looper last year. They played in darkness, with the lights on the audience.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: GUEST,Hoot & Fidget
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 07:20 AM

This thread seems to be about 2 related, but different subjects. Does sexuality book bands (Britney, Spice Girls) and does appearence, in general book bands, (Merv Griffin, Miles Davis).

IMHO I'd have to say that sexuality does play more of role than simple appearence. Whether it actually gets you in the door or keeps you out is another issue. I know of people who are contemptuous of Kathryn Tyckell's publicity photo -- the one of her in the leather jacket with the rather sultry/bewildered look on her face: I know others who more-or-less salivate.

As for appearence in general, I remember a friend of mine commenting how Garth Brooks didn't look like a CW singer; short, and kinda chunky. I'm looking at a picture of Kate Rusby on Hourglass and she's not what I'd call "stunning"; attractive, certainly. Of course, what ultimately grabbed my attention was the stunning musical and performance talent all of the above -- Tyckell, Brooks and Rusby -- display. Is it perhaps more accurate that appearence, and for that matter sexuality, counts more towards starting out than it does in continuing a career?


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: guinnesschik
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:25 AM

Dunno 'bout the question of do "tits book bands", but I know they're good for collecting money in the tip jar! We openly exploit our busty singer (since she doesn't play an instrument) and send her around with the tip jar as the rest of us rip into a jig or reel. Works for us!

;-)


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Raptor
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:45 AM

Shania Twain : Popular
Reta McNiel : Unheard of


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Lady McMoo
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:48 AM

Many of the people who I or bands I've been in have been booked by have turned out to be right ***s, if you'll pardon the expression. We're still owed $1200 after 18 months by one particularly slippery individual.

Peace

mcmoo


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Bagpuss
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:49 AM

Well the bloke who books bands at my local is a complete tit!!

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:55 AM

Not the genre we generally discuss on the Mudcat, but I think it is interesting what happened to the rock band Heart when their lead singer (Ann Wilson) put on weight. In my opinion she had perhaps the best female rock voice ever -- I can't think of any other woman in rock who had or has the emotional range and power of Ann Wilson. But when she stopped being so damn attractive to the male audience members, the band plummeted.

This may be true to a lesser extent in folk and acoustic music, but it's still a factor, in my opinion. Guys have it easier, as there is somewhat less attention paid to their looks generally, and popular culture accepts a number of different male types as being attractive. But unfortunately, when it comes to commercial success, looks are a factor.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: guinnesschik
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:59 AM

Damn, then we're not getting anywhere!


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:07 AM

I think its in the same category as whizzin' in the shower. Its very common, but nobody admits it.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Mini Me
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:09 AM

Well, call me slow , but I'd book Dave Van Ronk and Rick Feilding anytime, even though both have incredible figures.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Grab
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:16 AM

It'll certainly have a bearing on success in the Top Ten, MTV, pop world. Appearance is everything, as every manufactured boy- or girl-band shows - good looks are much more important than being able to sing, cos all the shows are just miming, songs are written by other ppl, and the producer can make anyone sound good (doubt _that_, and think of Shane McGowen who's got no more voice than a creaky door).

But whether you succeed in _music_ is a different thing altogether...

Grab.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Bagpuss
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:23 AM

I dont think I got your Shane McGowan comment. Surely youre not saying he made it by looks?...

Hell of a songwriter though.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: GUEST,KingBrilliant
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:47 AM

Well I think its entirely fair that all those people with big tits & good looks should be popular - its compensates for not having great personalities like what us plain types have. (joke btw)

Kris (no tits or looks to speak of - and not in the least bitter about it, honest)


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: JenEllen
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 11:36 AM

I just got back from a festival that was split most decidedly in half. The Yuppie types that were down for the weekend tended to hang around the willowy ToriAmos wannabe stages, while the rest of the crowd hung around stages featuring pepperpot schoolteachers with autoharps. Depends on what you are looking for I guess. If you go to see tits or hear great music. Personally I am a great fan of those non-angst ridden folks who are comfortable with who they are.

Got me a big footed woman
I'm a big-footed woman's man
She stands so solid, stands so strong
Because her tootsies are two feet long
Ya know a big-footed woman
Won't ever sing the blues
If ya wanna love me, honey can't you see
You gots ta wear big shoes

~Elle


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Mbo
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 11:41 AM

My kinda song, Elle!


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 11:50 AM

hmmm now

I don't know about this one...

I'd like to think NOT but who knows.

I hope it is NOt the case for my group...

But then the lead is rather hairy idividual (not me of course)

hell, it takes all sorts...

have done some awful gig venues and some lovely ones. Awful ones usually = yukky leary men that need a swift sharp verbal sorting out...

Ella

has a gig this Sat hopefully at non leary place though who knows....


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: GUEST,KingBrilliant
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 12:36 PM

Does anyone remember the thread proximity game? How about teaming this one up with the thread named : She Just Ain't Built That Way

Kris


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Kim C
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 02:39 PM

Well, this is an interesting discussion. I think it just depends on several factors, namely what kind of music you are playing and what type of venue is involved. I said to Mister once, that one of the things I liked about the bluegrass and folk markets is that they are based more on sheer talent than, as Travis Tritt once said, an ass-wiggling contest.

People who sell records because of their looks will not continue to sell records over an extended period of time, because they are not serious musicians with good, sturdy songs. People who sell records because of their talent will generally do so much longer.

Someone mentioned Ann Wilson - now, I was never a huge Heart fan, but it seems to me that their record sales dropped off because their sound had mellowed out quite a bit, and not necessarily because Ann put on weight. But it could have been a combination of both, I suppose.

How many records has Aretha Franklin sold during her career?


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Brendy
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 02:42 PM

Fine set of tits, though.

B.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Irish Rover
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 02:57 PM

SEX SELLS! it aint right but it is truth. young don't hurt either. unfortunatly I'm Neither!


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Hollowfox
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 04:57 PM

Bagpuss, don't you mean that the bloke who books your band is a total boob? *BG*


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: sophocleese
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 05:43 PM

I haven't trained mine to do anything other than produce milk for the kids when they were babes. Nice though they are I don't think I'd trust them to book anything.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Mbo
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 05:52 PM

That's alright soph, cause the rest of you makes up for any lack you think you may have!


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Kim C
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 06:10 PM

Well, I must say, that after many years of resisting, I finally bought a push-up brassiere. :) It doesn't work well in a corset, though, and that's usually what I'm wearing when I perform. heeheehee


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Mbo
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 06:51 PM

**swoon**


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
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Date: 05 Sep 00 - 07:44 PM


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:20 PM

I don't know if tits bbok bands. But I do know that if you put "tits" in the subject line, you'll sure get a lot of responses from Mbo.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Brendy
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:26 PM

*LOL*

B.


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:34 PM

Mbo only may click here


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:47 PM

......crap! I'm sure Mbo could find those sites if he chose...and now you have offended MANY others who would NOT want them....KNOWING that practically everyone will click it!

No restraint in your cleverness?..Practice, please


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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:49 PM

for those who haven't yet...it is a very explicit picture of a woman...your choice...and I hope Joe deletes it

(no...I'm not a prude, I just think it's out of place, even as humor)


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