Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Froodo Date: 14 Sep 00 - 04:59 PM No wonder I never get any gigs... |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: GUEST,cynical realist Date: 14 Sep 00 - 04:48 PM Just a reality check here - good looks are an advantage in ALL lines of endeavor, not just music. Sad but true, hardwired into our primitive brains, affected by advertising, but still something we all deal with. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: GospelPicker (inactive) Date: 14 Sep 00 - 03:54 PM There's a few things I find reassuring... Scruggs has a big gap in his teeth ala Letterman. Dylan has a big nose that his voice goes through. Woody Guthrie was known to not bathe sometimes for quite a while on end. do t*ts book bands? who cares when your idea of talent has much more to do with what comes out of your heart than out of your bra? GospelPicker |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Mbo Date: 14 Sep 00 - 09:46 AM Sledge--YEAH YEAH! Did I ever mention that their song "Closer" was the reason I wanted to write my own music. I wrote my first song about a week later. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: sledge Date: 14 Sep 00 - 02:53 AM Looks must help at some point, case in point, the Corrs. Tits I dont think influence people that much, case in point, the Corrs, those girls are so flat they are almost inverted. I am not just saying that, I have looked long and hard at many photos of them, I will continue to do so just in case I got it wrong. Sledge(who has been away from home for too long) |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: GUEST,Curtis & Loretta Date: 13 Sep 00 - 10:33 PM Absolutely, looks book bands in the mainstream music world (pop, rock, etc), especially in the big-time entertainment business, where dollars are much more important than the music. But in our wonderful, real world of folk, Celtic, old-time, etc., looks don't mean much. Folk musicians are real people and they look like real people, not like "made-up", created for a target audience, plastic people. We're always swimming upstream. I love it. Loretta Simonet |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Sep 00 - 04:54 PM Naw...police book bands. Like the time Jim Morrison exposed himself to a large audience and got arrested for it. "Book 'em, Dan-o!" That's what the top cop said. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: mousethief Date: 12 Sep 00 - 04:54 PM Here's my take. Tits don't book bands, club managers book bands. Club managers book bands in order to get people to come to the club, pay the cover charge, and buy food/drinks. Thus, club managers will book whatever band they think will attract an audience. If they think tits will attract an audience at their club, they will book tits. If they think ugly people doing fabulous music will attract an audience at their club, they will book ugly people doing fabulous music. And so forth. It's really a measure of what the club managers think their potential patrons want to see/hear. How to change it? Easy. Go to lots of shows with good music. Refuse to go to shows where the music is lousy but the singer is shapely. Club managers, being business people, will book what sells.
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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: wildlone Date: 12 Sep 00 - 03:12 PM IN my hummble estimation tits do not book bands but |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Steve Latimer Date: 12 Sep 00 - 02:57 PM Blind Desert Pete, unfortunately you've come up with the best example of yes they do. How a no talent tramp like Madonna can appeal to anyone on a musical level is beyond me, and probably beyond her, but she knew that if she did a strip show and sang at the same time it would sell. The only thing missing from her stage show is the metal pole. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: GUEST,blind desert pete Date: 12 Sep 00 - 02:23 PM If madonna looked like say mamma cass she would starve waiting tables. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Lena Date: 07 Sep 00 - 08:22 PM Oh,look sells.I have a couple of examples,but it's a personal opinion and some mudcatters love the gals I would quotate...Look does sell.how many performers change their shirt before coming on stage?!But we should make a distinction between clothing/tits and real glamour.Now,glamour sells .Not sex.Sex doesn't charm as much as a glamourous female performer.And male performers as well....Although I must say that if I see a folk musician jump up on stage wrapped in a particular fashon I scratch my head and think...so what,mate?! |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Naemanson Date: 07 Sep 00 - 09:44 AM I'd like to think I wouldn't book an act based on looks. I'm certain I haven't made any choices along those lines yet but being a guy and knowing my weaknesses I'd hate to be put on the spot. If you look at the entertainment industry as a whole it's easy to see that sexy looks will prevail. Our little corner of the entertainment world cannot be totally immune. But I like to think our corner is more enlightened and that when the choice comes along we are at least able to question our choices and make the right ones sometimes. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Raptor Date: 07 Sep 00 - 08:55 AM WOW Hot topic |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: guinnesschik Date: 07 Sep 00 - 08:32 AM Marion: I really don't know about our singer, but as fiddler and singer, I give a kick-ass performance on such days. If I'm not performing, life just seems to be a bit easier at that time. However that should really be a seperate thread. However, her "girls" always look cute and young, and there's always a fair share of leches in the audience. I'm currently writing a parody of "Dirty Old Town." Gonna call it "Dirty Old Men." |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: tar_heel Date: 07 Sep 00 - 06:45 AM gee,all i did was tell sandytoes how much i loved her and then you run garbage like this? |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Marion Date: 06 Sep 00 - 04:02 PM Hey Guinnesschik, you should ask your singer if she gets more tips on the fertile days of her cycle. Apparently there's been a study showing that waitresses get more tips when they're fertile - something about the pheromones that accompany ovulation. Here in Cape Breton, there are many accomplished traditional fiddlers, and fiddle connoisseurs have a variety of favourite performers. But there are two who really stand as having achieved mass popularity: Natalie McMaster, who is young, beautiful, and female, and Ashley MacIsaac, who is young and has established a "badass" image. Now it's possible that these two also happen to be the best two fiddlers on Cape Breton - I'm not enough of a connoisseur to tell the difference between a good fiddler and a great one. But I have a feeling that the vast majority of their fan base aren't connoisseurs either, and wouldn't be able to recognize Natalie's or Ashley's playing by the sound alone. Marion |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: CarolC Date: 06 Sep 00 - 12:32 AM Andres, ;-) Carol |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Escamillo Date: 05 Sep 00 - 11:49 PM I'm fed up with people who doesn't care about the quality of my art, and keep calling me just for my sex-appeal. Andrés - (oh, please Wyo, Carol, Kat, don't spray out your salad all over the keyboard)
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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: CarolC Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:44 PM I'm not a professional performer, but my experience in life has been that while the "tits factor" may open certain kinds of doors for you, it can make it very difficult to be taken seriously. I'll never forget the time my son was marching as a Cub Scout in a Memorial Day parade, and an antique car full of antique veterans started hooting and shouting suggestive remarks at me while I was standing by the side of the road, watching the parade. My son was there, for Pete's sake. And I wasn't dressed suggestively at all. Women tend to take you less seriously as well. Carol |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Bill D Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:30 PM "Is there something about the phrase "Mbo only may click here" that you did not understand? "...yep...WHY is that phrase out where everyone can see it? Mr. Guest...you know very well what a link like that does. Like "Do not post to this thread"...... my problem? Bad taste and bad judgement displayed all to often in here. You want Mbo to see that picture?...use YOUR name and send him a PM..... (don't usually get this riled...but DAMN!)
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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: GUEST Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:19 PM What's your problem, Bill D? I clearly said that the link was for Mbo, and only for Mbo. Since your name is not Mbo, you were just sticking your mouse where it does not belong. Is there something about the phrase "Mbo only may click here" that you did not understand? |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Bill D Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:49 PM for those who haven't yet...it is a very explicit picture of a woman...your choice...and I hope Joe deletes it (no...I'm not a prude, I just think it's out of place, even as humor) |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Bill D Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:47 PM ......crap! I'm sure Mbo could find those sites if he chose...and now you have offended MANY others who would NOT want them....KNOWING that practically everyone will click it! No restraint in your cleverness?..Practice, please |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: GUEST Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:34 PM Mbo only may click here |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Brendy Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:26 PM *LOL* B. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: GUEST Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:20 PM I don't know if tits bbok bands. But I do know that if you put "tits" in the subject line, you'll sure get a lot of responses from Mbo. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: catspaw49 Date: 05 Sep 00 - 07:44 PM |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Mbo Date: 05 Sep 00 - 06:51 PM **swoon** |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Kim C Date: 05 Sep 00 - 06:10 PM Well, I must say, that after many years of resisting, I finally bought a push-up brassiere. :) It doesn't work well in a corset, though, and that's usually what I'm wearing when I perform. heeheehee |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Mbo Date: 05 Sep 00 - 05:52 PM That's alright soph, cause the rest of you makes up for any lack you think you may have! |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: sophocleese Date: 05 Sep 00 - 05:43 PM I haven't trained mine to do anything other than produce milk for the kids when they were babes. Nice though they are I don't think I'd trust them to book anything. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Hollowfox Date: 05 Sep 00 - 04:57 PM Bagpuss, don't you mean that the bloke who books your band is a total boob? *BG* |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Irish Rover Date: 05 Sep 00 - 02:57 PM SEX SELLS! it aint right but it is truth. young don't hurt either. unfortunatly I'm Neither! |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Brendy Date: 05 Sep 00 - 02:42 PM Fine set of tits, though. B. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Kim C Date: 05 Sep 00 - 02:39 PM Well, this is an interesting discussion. I think it just depends on several factors, namely what kind of music you are playing and what type of venue is involved. I said to Mister once, that one of the things I liked about the bluegrass and folk markets is that they are based more on sheer talent than, as Travis Tritt once said, an ass-wiggling contest. People who sell records because of their looks will not continue to sell records over an extended period of time, because they are not serious musicians with good, sturdy songs. People who sell records because of their talent will generally do so much longer. Someone mentioned Ann Wilson - now, I was never a huge Heart fan, but it seems to me that their record sales dropped off because their sound had mellowed out quite a bit, and not necessarily because Ann put on weight. But it could have been a combination of both, I suppose. How many records has Aretha Franklin sold during her career? |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: GUEST,KingBrilliant Date: 05 Sep 00 - 12:36 PM Does anyone remember the thread proximity game? How about teaming this one up with the thread named : She Just Ain't Built That Way Kris |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 05 Sep 00 - 11:50 AM hmmm now I don't know about this one... I'd like to think NOT but who knows. I hope it is NOt the case for my group... But then the lead is rather hairy idividual (not me of course) hell, it takes all sorts... have done some awful gig venues and some lovely ones. Awful ones usually = yukky leary men that need a swift sharp verbal sorting out... Ella has a gig this Sat hopefully at non leary place though who knows....
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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Mbo Date: 05 Sep 00 - 11:41 AM My kinda song, Elle! |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: JenEllen Date: 05 Sep 00 - 11:36 AM I just got back from a festival that was split most decidedly in half. The Yuppie types that were down for the weekend tended to hang around the willowy ToriAmos wannabe stages, while the rest of the crowd hung around stages featuring pepperpot schoolteachers with autoharps. Depends on what you are looking for I guess. If you go to see tits or hear great music. Personally I am a great fan of those non-angst ridden folks who are comfortable with who they are.
Got me a big footed woman ~Elle
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Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: GUEST,KingBrilliant Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:47 AM Well I think its entirely fair that all those people with big tits & good looks should be popular - its compensates for not having great personalities like what us plain types have. (joke btw) Kris (no tits or looks to speak of - and not in the least bitter about it, honest) |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Bagpuss Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:23 AM I dont think I got your Shane McGowan comment. Surely youre not saying he made it by looks?... Hell of a songwriter though. Bagpuss |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Grab Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:16 AM It'll certainly have a bearing on success in the Top Ten, MTV, pop world. Appearance is everything, as every manufactured boy- or girl-band shows - good looks are much more important than being able to sing, cos all the shows are just miming, songs are written by other ppl, and the producer can make anyone sound good (doubt _that_, and think of Shane McGowen who's got no more voice than a creaky door). But whether you succeed in _music_ is a different thing altogether... Grab. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Mini Me Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:09 AM Well, call me slow , but I'd book Dave Van Ronk and Rick Feilding anytime, even though both have incredible figures. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: catspaw49 Date: 05 Sep 00 - 09:07 AM I think its in the same category as whizzin' in the shower. Its very common, but nobody admits it. Spaw |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: guinnesschik Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:59 AM Damn, then we're not getting anywhere! |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Whistle Stop Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:55 AM Not the genre we generally discuss on the Mudcat, but I think it is interesting what happened to the rock band Heart when their lead singer (Ann Wilson) put on weight. In my opinion she had perhaps the best female rock voice ever -- I can't think of any other woman in rock who had or has the emotional range and power of Ann Wilson. But when she stopped being so damn attractive to the male audience members, the band plummeted. This may be true to a lesser extent in folk and acoustic music, but it's still a factor, in my opinion. Guys have it easier, as there is somewhat less attention paid to their looks generally, and popular culture accepts a number of different male types as being attractive. But unfortunately, when it comes to commercial success, looks are a factor. |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Bagpuss Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:49 AM Well the bloke who books bands at my local is a complete tit!! Bagpuss |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Lady McMoo Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:48 AM Many of the people who I or bands I've been in have been booked by have turned out to be right ***s, if you'll pardon the expression. We're still owed $1200 after 18 months by one particularly slippery individual. Peace mcmoo |
Subject: RE: Do 'tits book bands'? From: Raptor Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:45 AM Shania Twain : Popular Reta McNiel : Unheard of |
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