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Subject: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Zebedee Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:23 PM OK, I have some peas. I want to have some 'mushy peas.' What do I do? Looking at the packaging on a can of Mushy Peas, I find out that said peas are 'processed' but quite what that 'process' is is not mentioned. Does anyone know? Any advice appreciated. Zeb |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: mousethief Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:25 PM What exactly are "mushy peas"? I've never heard of them in this corner of the li'l ol' USA.
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Llanfair Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:30 PM To make mushy peas you need to start with dried peas. Soak overnight as per instructions with the tablets that come with them. Drain and rinse, then boil to within an inch of their lives with a little mint. A knob of butter, then mush them---lovely. Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Zebedee Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:37 PM Llanfair, Thank you - I feel sure that I can dry my peas, but what are these 'tablets' that I need to boil them with? Zeb |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Jon Freeman Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:40 PM Here is a recipe I found on the internet:
225 g dried marrowfat peas In a large basin, soak the peas overnight (or for at least 4 hours) in three times their volume of cold water, with the bicarbonate of soda. Rinse the peas well and put them into a medium saucepan and cover with cold water. Bring to the boil and thenreduce the heat to simmer for approximately 1 1/2 - 2 hours stirring from time to time, until the peas are cooked and have fallen to a softened mush. If they appear too wet, continue cooking over a low heat to drive off any excess moisture, but take care to keep stirring, to prev nt them burning on the base of the pan. Beat in the butter, salt and pepper to taste. Yield: 4 servings Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Peter Kasin Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:40 PM Ditto here. Is it like a thick pea soup? Or do you want to know how to cook peas so they're mushy? If that's the case, if your market has dried peas in bulk, go for split peas and simmer them in a little less water than the recipe for split pea soup calls for, for about three hours. They'll end up very thick and mushy. Great with simmered carrots and onions, which soften after a long simmer, as well. Making a large pot of it and freezing it instead of making it fresh each time will shave off hours of extra cooking time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Peter Kasin Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:42 PM With split peas, it's not necessary to soak them before cooking. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Skipjack K8 Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:44 PM How does the home brewer achieve the day-glo green colour? Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Zebedee Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:45 PM Many thanks, this is really useful. But can someone expain what 'marrowfat' or 'split' peas are? I'm sure that they must have been 'normal' peas once... Zeb |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: DougR Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:46 PM Chantyranger: thanks, that sounds very good and I'm gonna try it. I, too, had never heard of mushy peas. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: mousethief Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:47 PM Split peas are dried green (or yellow) peas. They shell them, and then the two halves fall apart, causing them to be "split." They are the base of Split Pea Soup, an American delicacy (best brand: Anderson's). Dunno what those others are.
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Jim the Bart Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:49 PM Take some regular peas and keep them in your shoe for about a month. Then throw them away. You'll thank yourself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Jon Freeman Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:52 PM According to my dictionary: Marrowfat pea - a rich kind of pea, called also the Dutc admiral pea. split-pea - a dried pea deprived of its seed-coat and thus broken across at the embryo. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Peter Kasin Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:55 PM Jon, you mean split peas come from deprived backgrounds? No wonder it takes so long to soften them up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Peter Kasin Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:57 PM I forgot to add that the carrots should be very finely chopped so that they'll blend in with the peas when they cook and soften better. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Greyeyes Date: 23 Oct 00 - 06:06 PM Mushy peas are not usually made with split peas, but with whole dried peas, marrowfat being a particularly large variety much favoured for mushing. Personally I'm not keen, but if you mix in enough butter they're just about edible, and a staple in the north of England (I'm a southern softie, prefer petit pois). |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Morticia Date: 23 Oct 00 - 06:40 PM remember to add lots of pepper........this is the one of the few instances where I prefer white pepper to black......otherwise they will give you awful indigestion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Max Tone Date: 23 Oct 00 - 06:40 PM Don't Bother, they're green mush. Folk in the NE of England eat them out of tins, occasionally, but usually out of late-nite chip shops, with soggy chips, (---ffffffloppy fRENCH fRIES -- to you US linguists) Imagine green refried beans! Rob |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Cobble Date: 23 Oct 00 - 06:44 PM Hey Greyeyes petit pois just don't go with steak and kidney pie or good old fish and chips!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Greyeyes Date: 23 Oct 00 - 06:50 PM Mushy peas don't go with anything. A surefire way to ruin a good bit of battered cod or a decent pie. I prefer my veg fresh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Jon Freeman Date: 23 Oct 00 - 08:00 PM Just wondering whether there is a N/S divide on this one and if so where it is. I am Shropshire born and don't care much for mushy peas although in fairness, I have only tried the chip shop variety. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Micca Date: 23 Oct 00 - 08:53 PM Bron, you remind me of my friends description of Superman "legs of Iron, Fists of steel and a knob of butter"****BG*** On the mushy peas subject... they are disgusting and make me heave, I don't like pease pudding either.. a puree of legumes is a no-no for me, Dahl too....... VOM... |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: DougR Date: 23 Oct 00 - 09:11 PM On the other hand ...maybe not. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Cobble Date: 23 Oct 00 - 09:12 PM Jon There appears to be a N/S devide here. Mushy peas are best cooked and eaten at once, the chip shops keep them stewing, ugg!! Talking about chip shops I once saw fried Mars Bars for sale in a chip shop in Scotland, this sounds disgusting, any one out there tried them? How do they keep the chocolate from going all goooooeeee?? Mrs. Cobble |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Jon Freeman Date: 23 Oct 00 - 09:13 PM Maybe it is just the chip shop peas I don't like then and I would like "real" mushy peas, I've never thought about it but I love Dahl and I would imagine I would enjoy the split-pea soup. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Thyme2dream Date: 23 Oct 00 - 09:39 PM I saw the fried Mars Bars, but was afraid to try them-and I thought America was bad with all our drive thru junk food nonsense! I loved most chip shop food, but it was durned hard to find a healthy snack there! oh no...now I'm missing Stovies too! |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Mrs.Duck Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:16 AM Does noone watch the ads? First you take a pea and separate mit from all the other peas. Then you remind it of the good old days in the pod with the family. When you have reduced it to tears you pop it into a tin and hey prest 'mushy peas' It must be true I saw it on the telly!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Oct 00 - 08:55 AM Marrowfat peas are the ones left over when all the petit pois have been taken out. They're the really fat buggers that no one really likes except me (I'm weird, I like sprouts too....). Boil 'em to buggery, add salt, pepper, enough butter to drown a cat and mash em up... yummmmmmmmmm. The dayglo green can be achieved by adding a drop of food colouring if you really must have it. The original colour comes from the preservatives and colourings added to make the grey green mush look appetising. Mushy peas should not be the odd fat squishy pea sitting in a green puddle. The whole should resemble mashed potatoes or oatmeal/porrige. And I'm a confirmed southron, so the N/S divide is meaningless. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Steve Latimer Date: 24 Oct 00 - 09:46 AM Here's a vote for Mushy Peas from a Canuck. I was introduced to them many years ago when I was in England and Scotland. I can't imagine haveing a Pub Pie without them. They are nothing like split peas. They are much bigger, almost like a green Chick Pea. Several British style pubs and a few Fish & Chip places in Canada offer them. St. Andrews Fish & Chips in Scarborough is an authentic Scottish F&C shop and make good ones. They are not mashed, just boiled until they become mushy. But then again I love Split Pea Soup, Green Pea soup, Lentil Suop, and Navy Bean Soup, all of which are hated by a lot of people I know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Oct 00 - 09:56 AM I'm with Micca......Although I will eat them out of politeness, there is nothing you can do with a pea that's going to make it worth a damn. when I eat them at all, I prefer them whole and undercooked since I can swallow them without chewing the mushy little bastards. A friend recently served up a split pea soup that I remarked on as being quite good. She then told me it was "Split Pea" and I asked what the recipe was. As I expected, by the time all the other stuff was added, the peas were less than 10% of the recipe!!! I tried the same recipe using corn, just for laughs, and it was better! And HEY FOLKS.....We will deep fry anything here in the states. Can you eat it? If so, batter it up and THROW IT IN THE FAT!!! My current favorite is deep fried pickles. The Bananas and Ice Cream are both interesting too. Spaw
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Steve Latimer Date: 24 Oct 00 - 10:27 AM 'Spaw, Is there anything less healthy than deep fried Pork Rinds. I have to admit, I've been known to get a bag or two when I'm in West Virginia. I've told this story on the 'cat before, but I think it's worth repeating here. On the trip that I discovered Mushy Peas I was touring England and Scotland with a Canadian Hockey team. There were a few guys on the team of Italian extraction. They weren't crazy about Pie and Peas which we'd pretty much been living on, so when we stopped at a Fish & Chips shop near the England/Scotland border they were pretty excited to see Pizza on the menu and ordered it. The owner went to the freezer, pulled out a frozen pizza and threw it into the same deep fat fryer that he did the Fish and Chips in. Now I've always been willing to try just about anything, but I passed on that. Apparently it was absolutely terrible. So Mars bars don't surprise me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Jon Freeman Date: 24 Oct 00 - 11:27 AM Wow Liz, I always knew I was weird but didn't know it was because I love sprouts. I also love cabbage and spinach -is there any hope for me? Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: SINSULL Date: 24 Oct 00 - 11:49 AM I had mushy peas with my first lunch in Australia. It was fascinating to watch the natives push them onto the back of a fork and eat them. Yum - with lots of pepper. Also love Pea Soup - my own is best and lentil soup. Or mushy lentils with rice. The Indian restaurants here fry lentil cakes - iddly? not my favorite. Fried Mars Bars sounds disgusting but in my youth I was known to imbibe in Frozen Milk Shake Bars. They stuck an ice cream stick into the candy bar and froze it. Works with Milky Way too. Thanks for the recipe Jon. I will try it once the weather turns cold here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Oct 00 - 11:54 AM Steve, if you occasionally succumb to the pork rind thing, the little family owned butcher shop in my little village here makes their own and they are FAR superior to the commercial fare......including some flavors. The "Salt and Vinegar" has GOT to be the MOST unhealthy thing I can think of but man alive are they good!!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: okthen Date: 24 Oct 00 - 03:21 PM just to be pedantic (I get so little chance) petite pois are a seperate variety cheers bill |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Greyeyes Date: 24 Oct 00 - 03:26 PM I too love split pea soup ( my recipe involves a lot more than 10% pea) and dahls, and sprouts, and cabbage. I am in fact a complete omnivore. I eat things which make ordinary mortals spew at the thought, including wobbly bits of animals barely cooked. The fact that I can't stomach mushy peas will give those of you who haven't tried them an idea of just how repulsive they really are. Incidentally Scottish chippies also sell deep fried haggis which I quite like, needs plenty of brown sauce tho'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: mousethief Date: 24 Oct 00 - 03:32 PM I love deep-fried pickles! I was very wary when my southern belle wife pressed them upon me (at a real dive of a diner in Townshend, Tennessee), but was quickly converted. I also like split-pea soup and petit pois (frozen not canned) and creasy/greasy greens (tie-in to Pink Anderson thread).
Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Lepus Rex Date: 24 Oct 00 - 03:38 PM Ewww, is this some sort of British food? Do you put Marmite on it? ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Greyeyes Date: 24 Oct 00 - 03:53 PM Marmite could only improve it, but it would be a waste of Marmite. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: mousethief Date: 24 Oct 00 - 04:01 PM Bite your collective tongues! And don't knock it till you've tried it. Both fried pickles and greasy greens are from the American South.
Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Greyeyes Date: 24 Oct 00 - 04:09 PM Sorry, I thought we were still on the Mushy peas. Fried pickles and greasy greens sound great. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: mousethief Date: 24 Oct 00 - 04:13 PM Oh, my mistake. I didn't realize the thread had crept back to its starting point! You're right, mushy peas sound dreadful.
Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Cobble Date: 24 Oct 00 - 05:33 PM In defence of mushy peas, they can be a veeery moooving experience!!!! Mrs cobble |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: mousethief Date: 24 Oct 00 - 05:35 PM So can Metamucil, Mrs. C, but that doesn't make it part of my diet! :-)
Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Cobble Date: 24 Oct 00 - 05:48 PM Touche..... Mousethief Mrs C |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: hesperis Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:29 PM Mushy peas sounds good! Thanks for the recipe! Of course, I love split pea soup. There's this place up in Huntsville that makes really good pea & bacon soup, it also has the world's best - well, maybe not the absolute best, but pretty d*mn good - fries and gravy. Oh, it is SOOOOO good! Has anyone else had spanakopita? I hope I remembered how to spell it. It's spinach and cheese wrapped in this gorgeous pastry. You can get it at Kensignton Bakery in Toronto, if it's still around. (I haven't been there in about 5 years or so.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Sorcha Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:38 PM I make spanokopita, and what I make is better than you will get in any restaurant!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: mousethief Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:39 PM Sorcha, can you come over to my house? Do you make taramasalata too?
love that Greek food, |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Sorcha Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:42 PM No, but I do mean dolmas. Grape vines in the back yard.....will go look up tarasmaswhatever. |
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Subject: RE: BS: How can I make 'mushy' peas? From: Sorcha Date: 24 Oct 00 - 06:59 PM mousethief--YUCK UGH GROSS That stuff has fish roe in it!! |