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Fire in Praise's Home

Seamus Kennedy 11 Dec 00 - 12:46 AM
Ebbie 11 Dec 00 - 01:11 AM
Haruo 11 Dec 00 - 02:22 AM
bflat 11 Dec 00 - 03:57 AM
Liz the Squeak 11 Dec 00 - 06:02 AM
McGrath of Harlow 11 Dec 00 - 06:55 AM
sophocleese 11 Dec 00 - 07:48 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 11 Dec 00 - 08:45 AM
wysiwyg 11 Dec 00 - 08:56 AM
Troll 11 Dec 00 - 09:08 AM
katlaughing 11 Dec 00 - 09:16 AM
CamiSu 11 Dec 00 - 09:23 AM
jeffp 11 Dec 00 - 10:39 AM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 11 Dec 00 - 11:11 AM
Seamus Kennedy 11 Dec 00 - 12:00 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 11 Dec 00 - 12:00 PM
wysiwyg 11 Dec 00 - 12:59 PM
mousethief 11 Dec 00 - 01:08 PM
Brendy 11 Dec 00 - 01:14 PM
Morticia 11 Dec 00 - 01:17 PM
Brendy 11 Dec 00 - 01:19 PM
Melani 11 Dec 00 - 01:24 PM
mousethief 11 Dec 00 - 01:29 PM
Morticia 11 Dec 00 - 01:34 PM
Brendy 11 Dec 00 - 01:34 PM
mousethief 11 Dec 00 - 01:39 PM
Morticia 11 Dec 00 - 01:39 PM
Melani 11 Dec 00 - 02:11 PM
Bill D 11 Dec 00 - 02:15 PM
Peter K (Fionn) 11 Dec 00 - 02:52 PM
McGrath of Harlow 11 Dec 00 - 02:58 PM
Brendy 11 Dec 00 - 03:03 PM
mousethief 11 Dec 00 - 03:24 PM
Kim C 11 Dec 00 - 03:35 PM
Gypsy 11 Dec 00 - 03:42 PM
Megan L 11 Dec 00 - 04:28 PM
wysiwyg 11 Dec 00 - 04:29 PM
mousethief 11 Dec 00 - 04:35 PM
wysiwyg 11 Dec 00 - 04:47 PM
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wysiwyg 11 Dec 00 - 04:53 PM
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Wesley S 11 Dec 00 - 05:35 PM
mousethief 11 Dec 00 - 05:37 PM
Kim C 11 Dec 00 - 05:42 PM
Bert 11 Dec 00 - 05:48 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 11 Dec 00 - 05:48 PM
The Walrus 11 Dec 00 - 05:56 PM
Helen 11 Dec 00 - 06:38 PM
CamiSu 11 Dec 00 - 06:45 PM
wysiwyg 11 Dec 00 - 07:30 PM
Burke 11 Dec 00 - 08:07 PM
Morticia 11 Dec 00 - 08:21 PM
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Morticia 11 Dec 00 - 08:30 PM
Burke 11 Dec 00 - 08:40 PM
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Burke 11 Dec 00 - 08:47 PM
GUEST,lenny 11 Dec 00 - 09:07 PM
Ebbie 11 Dec 00 - 10:10 PM
Melani 11 Dec 00 - 10:41 PM
Gypsy 11 Dec 00 - 10:50 PM
Brendy 12 Dec 00 - 01:00 AM
wysiwyg 12 Dec 00 - 03:22 AM
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Subject: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 12:46 AM

The Mudcat situation seems quite small today as our family has just, by the grace of God, come through a little house fire from Tuesday afternoon. A wall-mounted gas heater had some tiny little fitting gave way and gouts of flame were blowing out the vent and rushing up from the heat outlets. We are in cleanup mode for the foreseeable future-- the brick main house is smoky but the fire itself was confined to a wood frame addition used for storage and laundry (total loss).

The fire was within 5 minutes of entering the main house, according to the volunteer firemen, and they were only able to contain it becuase the neighbor who saw it as it got underway threw buckets of creek water on the house and flagged down a passing gas company man to shut off the gas. We rent; the owner and we are both insured. No one was hurt. Pets OK. We were at a motel just one night and the landlord got essential utilities going the same night as the fire so the pipes would not freeeze and so we could have our home. And... our houseful of instruments, sound equipment, recorded music, and several hundred music books--- all untouched, all intact, all here to help us feel better as we clean up. In fact I played slide geetar hymns today in one low moment.

The Red Cross chapter I managed until November 1 helped us and we are asking that anyone wanting to help us please remember their local Red Cross this year. It is fire season.... and many suffer so much more than we. The next county over had a fire just last night with a fatality. We are so blessed, and so many are helping.... we're surrounded by loving neighbors to meet every need as it comes up, and I think the casseroles are about to start arriving. And we like the smell of a nice campfire... so we pretend we are on vacation, camping out in a nice warm house!

There is a lot more I would say but we only have the one phone line and I have to be quick and keep the line clear. The rest of the inbox is full of things to review and I am about to issue a group-message about the fire. Seamus, could you please be a dear and just copy and paste my remarks above on the fire at the Mudcat? From me and Hardiman the Fiddler?

Your CDs are wonderful to clean house by while keeping one's chin up, too. Oh and I got a new copy of the Donna Missigman CD, so you should be hearing her version of Bheir Me O and Red Red Rose before too long.... God willing and the creek don't rise!


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:11 AM

So GLAD that that the loss isn't greater. I'll send up a prayer for jangled nerves, OK? Bless you.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Haruo
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 02:22 AM

Seamus, is that you Praise? Glad to hear everybody's okay! I'll say a prayer for you all and give the Red Cross something.

Liland


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: bflat
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 03:57 AM

I have experienced the havoc of fire and I am sorry that you will have to also. But,I am glad you are well physically and your property damage is limited. It is only natural that you will experience some low moments. Try to find the joy through the caring community which surrounds you.

bflat


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:02 AM

Hell's teeth child, narrow escape! Got a smoke alarm?? Bet you'll get one now!! Hope all is well, thank heaven that nothing more was damaged.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:55 AM

God moves in some mysterious ways.

At least the fire has got praise back here again - and the instruments, music books and pets (and Hardiman) all OK; and the neighbours have come through as proper neighbours.

For a moment reading this I did a double take, and thought that praise had tranmsmogrified into Seamus Kennedy...


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: sophocleese
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 07:48 AM

Good to hear from you Praise, sorry it had to be through a fire, glad that you're okay and that things are getting better again after the scare and mess.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:45 AM

Bummer! Glad you are safe, Susan & Hardi.
RtS


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:56 AM

Thanks Seamus, and thanks everyone.

When I asked Seamus to paste this from e-mail for me I was not sure I would ever come back to Mudcat, for I have been far and wide since last here and some of the pastures, frankly, are pretty green. And in some ways it would have been better to leave things here alone. But I did want my old MudBuds to know.... I could not have said exactly why... I just did. I thought when the thread pooped out Seamus would just e-mail it to me.

But now, what Max said yesterday about his removal of a thread and about why he did it and how he felt about it afterwards.... Max apologized to us all for doing what is his absolute right to do-- because he had violated his own sense of what's right. I've done that too and if Max of all people can acknowledge a mistake, how can I do less?

I have some things to clear up... and being here will never be the same. But I hope to have your encouragement to all parties involved in "the late unpleasantness" to clear things up. I'll go first.

Kat, I am sorry. I did not treat you as I should have, starting a long time ago, and I am sorry for all the misunderstandings that I can see now flowed out of that. I've found a good place to write about a lot of the things I used to write about here. I hope to see some of your writing there sometime as well. I'll PM you with the rest unless you want to give me your new e-mail address.

Micca, you tried hard to do something right with a wrong situation. God love you! I wish we had known each other better going into it, so that what we discussed might have had a sounder footing.

To everyone else who had an opinion about what occurred.... please, no "voting." There was a lot going on that I cannot go into without violating ethics I hold dear. Let us clear it up ourselves, OK?

Oh and watch out for that Emily Littella. She has a lot of stress to work off and you may see more of her.

Max... thanks.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Troll
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:08 AM

EASTERN ONION TELEGRAPH SUSAN and HARDI Come home. All is forgiven. Love,Mother.

troll


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:16 AM

We had a house catch on fire once, when we were renting. The fire cheif said if we hadn't been awake we would have all died of smoke inhalation before anyone knew what was happening, neighbours were too far away with too many trees between us.

I am really glad to hear you, the critters, Hardiman, and your music are okay, Susan. And, thank you for the other things you've written. I wish you well, as always.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: CamiSu
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:23 AM

Susan and Hardiman--

It looks like God was taking care of you, and I'm sure will continue to do so. ...and welcome home!

CamiSu


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: jeffp
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:39 AM

Welcome Back! Glad to hear you, the animals, and the instruments are all OK.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 11:11 AM

Best wishes to Praise and all the clan there.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 12:00 PM

Hey guys, gimme a break! It was the first time I ever did a cut and paste, and I forgot to put in an introductory note. It's a scary thing when you try something for the first time. McGrath, we can see where your priorities lie: instruments, books, pets and Hardiman saved from the conflagration.*BG* All the best. Seamus Oh, yes. Welcome back, Praise.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 12:00 PM

Thank God you are all safe. Lets hope this Christmas will be the best ever for you all; and that you will not let this dampen your spirit. Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 12:59 PM

Yeah, give Seamus a break! I wish you could all hear the phone message he left me a few weeks ago asking me very sweetly to come back to Mudcat. I told Hardi that night, "God must work extra hard to save the Irish: with the voices He gave them, we'd follow wherever they lead-- heaven or hell!"

That voice has been working in me ever since! He's dangerous! If I COULD be transmogrified though I'd be glad to be Seamus-- then I would have that voice!

Thanks everyone. You won't see as much of me as you did before but I'll be around some.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:08 PM

Yikes! Thank goodness you are all safe, and (selfishly) thank goodness you're back here in Mudcatland!

Alex


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Brendy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:14 PM

"God must work extra hard to save the Irish.."

What the FUCK's that supposed to mean, you pretentious bitch?


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:17 PM

God must work extra hard to save the Irish *BG* that's probably because we need the most work.Glad you are all alright,Susan.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Brendy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:19 PM

Speak for yourself, Morticia

B.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Melani
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:24 PM

Praise-glad it wasn't worse. There's nothing like a good scare to put your priorities in order--though yours probably were anyway.

Brendy-that comment is offensive and unnecessary.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:29 PM

Jeez, Brendy, take a cold shower or something. You seem to infer that Praise was saying that the Irish NEED extra work to be saved; I didn't take it that way at all. And I am Irish, so that's not an issue. I thought she was saying that God gave the Irish such a lovely accent so more would -- Oh hell, why should I even argue with someone who is irrationally angry? Take a cold shower and come back and we can talk.

Did you know that legend has it that St. Patrick will refuse to enter heaven until all the Irish are in?

Alex


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:34 PM

He'll be waiting awhile for me, poor thing :) Maybe Brendy was being a bit tongue in cheek there guys, I know I was and I'm sure he knew it too.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Brendy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:34 PM

Alex...go steal a rodent, or something. And you're right, Melani, it was offensive and un-necessary. She should know better.

And I personally don't give two shits what ANY of you think about my reaction.... in advance.

B.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:39 PM

Obviously you don't care what people think about you, or you wouldn't make such a fool of yourself.

Praise was trying to say something complimentary about the Irish accent. Twisting it into an insult is stupid.

But you don't care what I think, so you probably won't be reading this. If you respond, I will know you really DO care. Which I suspect.

Alex


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 01:39 PM

Look Brendy, I'm sorry if I offended you, I certainly didn't mean to. It never occured to me that anyone would see what I said as anything other than a little harmless fun.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Melani
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 02:11 PM

Brendy, you know what I meant. I'm sorry you're having a bad day. At least be glad your house didn't catch fire.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 02:15 PM

...since Brendy doesn't care about anyone's opinion, I'll barely note that I have seldom seen such a big chip on anyone's shoulder.....*shaking my head*....

would you care to enlighten us as to what DOES please you, Brendy?.........

(dunno why I'm doing this post, *shrug*...'taint gonna help)


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 02:52 PM

Praise, I loved the dramatic effect of the delayed entrance, rather than posting the first message yourself! But what's with the limited appearances, you old tease? In fact why come back at all, now you've found the grass is greener somewhere else?

On the whole, I'm happier to see Brendy back, fit and well (apart from the sore head).


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 02:58 PM

It's a bit the way black people probably get irritated at times being told what a great sense of rhythm they have.

But don't shy off from us again, praise. There's always a little blood being shed on the Mudcat, but no harm done.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Brendy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 03:03 PM

No chips, no bad day, house on fire many times, nothing/nobody offended me 'cept what I quoted.

What's with the Inquisition?

B.

MUSIC pleases me, Bill
99's
(the odd 69)
REAL butter (as opposed to that vegetable-oil nonsense)
Soda Farls.
Beef sausages.

Want a few more?


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 03:24 PM

What do you care?


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Kim C
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 03:35 PM

Now, y'all be sweet. There ain't no call to be ugly.

Is that really you, Sugar Dog?!!!?! So grateful the angels were looking out for you. Merry Christmas!


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Gypsy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 03:42 PM

Praise, still don't know why you've left, but am so sorry to hear about your home. Glad that all are safe. Still miss your postings. Brendy, perhaps you should read what you write, before posting. Seems to me that postings I have seen of yours indicates that you are pretty well spoken.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Megan L
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:28 PM

Hey Praise sorry I didn't get the chance to miss you (family nightmares) not long home. Fires are nasty things but it would hve been a whole lot nastier if you left us. Don't feel up to writing much just now but will hold you in our prayers.

M.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:29 PM

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~S~


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:35 PM

Um, okay, Susan.

The first five *'s mean "See, what did I say about black hole of negativity?"

The next 34 *'s mean, "What are you talking about, negativity?"

No, even I can't keep it up that long.

Time to go get some Viagra, perhaps....

Alex


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:47 PM

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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:49 PM

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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 04:53 PM

HALF A DAY BACK AT THE MUDCAT AND ALL IT TOOK WAS ONE NASTY LITTLE SHIT TO MAKE ME CRY SO HARD I COULD NOT BREATHE, OR SEE, OR THINK, OR EVEN PRAY!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Parson
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:00 PM

Hi Praise, good to hear from you again & glad to know that you and Hariman are AOK. Hope you will be joining us on the Mudcat more often. Would you be willing to PM me with your E-mail, just in case you should decide to do another "disappearing act?" I'd like to be able to stay in touch with another "Preacher Family."

To the Mudcat in general. I don't know any of the history behind any ill feelings toward one another. I will only say as my Mom used to say to us children, "Yall play nice, now!"

Seasons Greetings to all.

Randall


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Wesley S
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:35 PM

Praise - When I have a "nasty little shit" I take a little Pepto and feel better right away. Here's hoping you're "in the pink" soon. This place is better with you than without you. There will always be people with negative attitudes in the world. And they will always see in other people what is really in their own hearts. It's our job and duty to rise above it. Take a deep breath, dry your eyes , pray a little, sing a good song { or three } and come back soon.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:37 PM

Hear, hear! What Wes said.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Kim C
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:42 PM

ditto.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Bert
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:48 PM

Glad to hear that you and yours safe. Take no notice of the stupid ones Praise me darlin'

Luvya.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:48 PM

Love and warmth (but no more fires or flames!)


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: The Walrus
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:56 PM

Praise,

All are safe? Then in the words of the hymn, "Now Thank We All Our God..."

Walrus


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Helen
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:38 PM

Hi Praise,

Nice to see you back here again - alive and well, with all instruments, spouse, music etc alive & well too.

I'll e-mail you. Love & light, Helen


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: CamiSu
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 06:45 PM

Susan, look at all the ones glad to have you back, and ignore the one screaming for attention! This is your thread and no one can hijack it from its intended purpose. As well, no one can hijack your God-given joy. God is pouring out those blessings so deep, and you don't have to do anything but let it in!

BIG HUG.

CamiSu


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 07:30 PM

Thanks all.

Just wondering-- now that this thread, like too many I am in, has been hijacked:

How many times do you really expect my husband to put up with coming home and finding me flat out because of Mudcat? How many times do you expect him to mop up the tears and hang on tight for the shakes, just so YOU can have me here again? How many times do you think I will give time that should be his, to this, excuse me, cycle of shittiness?

And when do we shake the dust off our feet and withdraw our blessing from the house?

I'll tell you this much. I have NO idea why I came back to look at this thread once more. If I knew that, I think I'd deal with all this a whole lot better.

And why all this outpouring of warm fuzzies for ME? Hey! I have JESUS! Why does your outpouring not go to BRENDY? He must have an awful lot of sore spots if I can rile him up without even trying. Who offers love to Brendy? Does that fall to me, too? How many Brendy's can I reach out to at one time with the limited time and energy and faith I have? Never mind wisdom and forebearance!

When the ugly stuff catches me off guard-- and it does, and it takes a lot of my resources (God's really) to work my way back to my MIND.... can't some of you, who say you love ME so much, go love-up the ones who are so nasty? I mean, PRAY for me, but WRITE to Brendy!

Yeah. That's what I want if you want me to be here. I want a Love Team that will spot the uglies and go love their socks off. Six good snugglers. PM me and sign up. Heck I can even train you. Yuh. If I knew you'd do that every time they come after me... I could just BE here.

What I hate most about this? IT MAKES ME GET CAREFUL. It scares me. It actually holds me back. And NOT in a good way. I hate it when that happens!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Burke
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:07 PM

Praise, glad to have you back. When you & Joe were both gone the Mudcat hymn mavens were seriously depleted.

Thanksgiving indeed for the near miss on that fire. I hope the smoke damage was not too bad.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:21 PM

Susan, I think you've maybe made the mistake that others have made, it isn't you Brendy is mad at, it's me, for a flippant remark I probably shouldn't have made, at least that's my interpretation on events.......I could be wrong, it isn't unknown.......but if I am, so what? What is one mans opinion against those who clearly care about you?


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:21 PM

I'm outnumbered now by nice e-mail and PM messages wanting nice reasonable answers, and I appreciate it, but right now I have to keep my attention on dealing with this fire and stuff, and not let anything, including Mudcat, toss me back in the soup. It takes too damn much right now to be here. Elect someone among yourselves to e-mail me the thread later on, OK? Minus the shit. Yeah. Just send me the parts that are good for me.

Please. No more mail about why and how to be here. Please, this time, honor that request, ALL of you. Just.... would you try to assume I may actually know what I need?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:30 PM

Then why re-appear? I don't mean to be critical Susan, but either this is a good place for you or it isn't.If it isn't, then you need to look after yourself by staying away.......simplistic perhaps but only giving you back what you told me when I was stressed out,


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Burke
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:40 PM

Morticia, he's mad at Praise. Both of you posted messages just about the same time. His is just before yours, but probably appeared while you were reading & typing.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:43 PM

but he says, speak for youself, Morticia that suggests to me that I am who he is in a pet with.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Burke
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 08:47 PM

I'm talking about the message before your's, not his reply to you.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: GUEST,lenny
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 09:07 PM

A simple check of Brendy's past postings will show a consistent M.O. You're talking to others, and suddenly, the ambush. Does wonders for a nice thread doesn't it? Just ignore it if you can Praise and Morty, you've both proven your worth here.

Len Evans


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:10 PM

He's Irish, you know. *BG*

Hey! Put that down! I'm Irish too, you know!

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Melani
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:41 PM

Praise, please try not to feel so bad because someone acts like a jerk. People have only so much capacity for handling stress, and if you've passed your limit, try to ignore him and concentrate on the people who wish you well.

I will send him my good wishes as well, and maybe eventually he won't be so quick to take offense where none was intended.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Gypsy
Date: 11 Dec 00 - 10:50 PM

Gee, i appreciate it when people say they miss me. Sorry. But you do have (as always) a very valid point. Easy to love people that you like, but perhaps more important to love them that might have more pain undealt with


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Brendy
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 01:00 AM

"that's probably because we need the most work"...to whit, I replied "Speak for yourself".
That was all, Morty. Everyone is the best judge of how much 'saving' they require. There were a load more ways to say what everybody thinks she said (though she never did explain, herself)

A quick search on Praise's posts reveals a certain M.O. too....if you can ever get the page to load, and those ********s summed it up quite nicely, for me.

I have nothing against the woman, personally; she's just had a fire to deal with, and that's a pain in the arse, especially at this time of year. But then she comes over here and starts striking matches.

OK, Praise, we're all pretty much broken up about your troubles, and I understand that in such stressful times, one can often seek comfort in that great sofa of the celestial analyst. But overdoing it is zealotry, and you, my dear, are guilty of that. Over and over and over again

Don't be so presumptious of God, or 'The Irish', and whatever you do, don't assume the mantle of 'Saviour'. Not on my part, and certainly not while I'm reading these threads.
There's enough Pharisees at the altar, and far too many saviours on His cross, Praise. Do something else, instead of sitting there on your sanctimonius, bible-belted ass.
You deserve all the criticism you get. I may do as well.

But at least I realise that, and take it (when it's intelligently enough rendered), and maybe, perhaps, even learn from it.

As I said...think what you will. At least I am affording you all the opportunity to do that. Praise doesn't.

B.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 03:22 AM

I just had the BEST time sending Brendy a LOVELY long PM! He raises so many interesting points! We have LOTS to talk about, don't you think? We can get it all worked out-- aw, somebuddy, tell him I'm not so bad! Not here though! PM-- he's shy! (He, right? Aw gee-- She????? I'm so far behind on Mudcat!)

Does anyone have an e-mail address for Brendy? ooooh! I can't WAIT to get this ALL cleared up!

Brendy, I hope you'll write back! E-mail is SO much easier....

Parson, you too! It's motormice@hotmail.com. Now bear with me. I have weeks of fire stuff ahead.

But I always LOVE to hear how people are doing!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: GUEST,Lepus_Rex (Have to get my cookie...)
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 04:23 AM

Yugh, fire sucks, Praise. Glad to hear no-ne's hurt, though...

Asfor the OTHER topic... Nice way to quote yourself, McDickweed (Brendy). You left out the 'fuck' and 'pretentious bitch' parts, though. I bet you get your ass kicked regularly in real life. Nah, I doubt you've got the balls to say that shit in real life:P

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Brendy
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 04:51 AM

Yeah right, Leprous. Anything you say.

B.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: GUEST,Lepus_Rex
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 04:57 AM

Glad you agree. :)

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: CarolC
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 05:02 AM

Merry Christmas, everybody.

Carol


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Brendy
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 05:03 AM

;)

So...when are you going to be in my neck of the woods, then, to test this theory of yours?

B.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 05:09 AM

Heh, I dunno, Brendy. You can take down bereaved women with ease... but me? Naaah.

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Brendy
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 05:17 AM

Yeah...well my heart bleeds, Leps.

Go and have a wank, or something, and get rid of some of that testosterone you are ejaculating liberally over us.

;)

B.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 05:18 AM

Eww. I'm going to bed.

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Brendy
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 05:22 AM

It's always a good place to do it....

....so I'm told.

Goodnight, squire!

B.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 08:15 AM

Of all the money that e'er I spent
I've spent it in good company
And all the harm that ever I did
Alas it was to none but me
And all I've done for want of wit
To memory now I can't recall
So fill to me the parting glass Good night and joy be with you all


No need to take it all so heavy.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 08:36 AM

Praise,
I am sorry about the fire - it is a frightening business. And I am glad to see you back. Gosh, I hope I haven't said anything to upset anyone.
Mary, still practicing irony.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 08:52 AM

I've eaten cheese that was more mature than some of the comments popping up here. Puns, satire and humourous asides are something; obscenities, backstabbing and abuse are completely different and should be kept for PMs.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Kim C
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 11:22 AM

A very astute member of my reenactors' list calls fall/winter Cranky Season.... for some reason, around October, everyone's tempers start flaring over the least little thing. For us reenactors, it's because many of us will have no events to go to for the next few months and we're BORED... plus the stress of the holidays and the new year and all that.

I am not going into the fray. Rather I will send my best wishes to all of you, Brendy included. I hope each and everyone of you will have a lovely holiday season!


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: GUEST,Lyle
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 12:15 PM

Normally I not only stay out of threads of this nature, but for some reason I read these, and I'm glad I did. Why?

Because of a line from Liz the Squeak, who said:

"I've eaten cheese that was more mature than some of the comments popping up here."

Liz, that is a classic that I will remember forever!! Thanks!

Lyle


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 01:49 PM

Where Praise asks And why all this outpouring of warm fuzzies for ME? Hey! I have JESUS! Why does your outpouring not go to BRENDY? I would answer Because I like you, Praise! You and I have had differences of opinion about a lot of things, some of them gods, but hey, I've always liked YOU, even while I might have not shared your opinion... and there is nothing more frightening than fire, I am SO glad all the important parts of your life survived! I've never had to survive a fire, but I know a lot of people who've lost a lot to it, and it is devastating. I wish you the best during your difficult recovery (and it is difficult to recover from nearly losing EVERYTHING - yeah, yeah, all is safe and you ought to be happy but you still have the shakes, and they've been hard-earned. Perhaps it wasn't just the Mudcat that made you cry - perhaps we were just the last straw -- I say We even though I have only just read this thread, as I had somehow misunderstood that it was about Praising a Fire in One's Home...)

I'll try to find a phrasing for my wish for you that isn't telling you how to feel or act, I dislike that too - how about I hope that you can give yourself a break for a while and allow yourself, and Hardiman too, to be closer to basket cases than you might be thinking you ought to be?

Boy that's hard. If it doesn't make sense the sentiment is Cut Yourself Some Slack (but without any imperatives in the mood).


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 03:22 PM

Yeah, well I like Praise, and I like Bendy too, cantankerous bastard as he may be at times - mostly in what I feel, is the right direction. Not always.

Being a global community has its price. There are real differences in the way people interact. What's meant as a compliment gets taken as an insult or put-down. Warm fuzzies are all very well, but as Les Barker says "Nobody hugs a hedgehog"

Anyway, having a fire and not getting anyone killed and your most precious possessions unscathed - that's more important than some grouchy words.

As Rabbi Lionel Blue puts it, "Don't take it so heavy."


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 05:39 PM

Posts acknowledged. Busy with insurance.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Amergin
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 05:40 PM

Take care of yourself, Susan.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Helen
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 06:22 PM

Here is a cut & paste from Praise in reply to an e-mail I sent her. Here reply first, my e-mail second. She said I could post it here for her.

Helen ************ Oh H--,

tHIS MADE FOR GOOD CLEANSING TEARS WHEN i FIRST SAW IT EARLIER THIS EVENING. Ooops! Sorry.

I could not get to the water you saw, many miles away, a childhood refuge in such times, remembered now once you'd evoked it. But you reminded me that I re-found that stream and its long rambling ravine, a few years back, when I finally got brave enough to go look, in pilgrimage, to see if any trace remained.

So, the water you saw became our creek running along the driveway, freshened by an unexpected heavy winter rainstorm which has been dropping tons of water on our burnt (but thank-God-just-TARPED) roof over the addition... Never call a 70-year-old country carpenter out just to LOOK to see what's needed when rain is due. He's sure to go up there in the dark and climb over unsupported roof over vanished rafters... with two strapping sons... and do the job in the rain! Well, they put that roof on years ago; I guess he knows where he can let his grown boy-babies step.

I got out back just in time to see them take down the gallant farm bell from its massive and now-unsupported 6-foot post, unburnt rope and all, so they could tarp over that spot good and snug. Then, because I asked, they laid it to rest for now on my slate front porch floor right outside the window to my left as I write.

The bell.... my friend and favorite storyteller tells a story about a farm bell from his childhood, a bad emergency one day.... this one has always been a link to that time and season of my life when home was in the Illinois flatlands of cornfields. We tame house-tenants have used "our" bell to ring home wandering teenage sons for dinner... I am sure it has rung help from neighboring farms in many a past emergency. I like knowing that it sits in tolling range from my front door as we *speak*. I believe the clapper which fell out a few years ago was replaced by a piece of iron scrap Greg found in the basement, some milkbarn refuse rusting away that we honored by making it work in a new way! Or did he find the real clapper the next year in the yard, and put it back? I can't recall.... I'll have to look.

The bell belongs way high to echo from the bowl of hills that surround this still-worked farm... but until it can be restored to its place, I may just hang it by the door if the carpenter will go back up for the metal swing-bracket!

The water sound of the rain falling off our part of the house gives a very secure feeling as I let the day ebb in these words... a waterfall unimpeded by gutters comes as the roof reaches saturation, and it creates a loud snapping sheet outside the bay window that crouches dry under the roof overhang there. It makes the sound it always makes in such a rainfall, like we are fine....

And we have a saying here when people ask us for a commitment-- "God willing and the creek don't rise." When this creek rises a certain amount and runs at a certain speed, it means that the county is at near-flood at several points. Thank God the Red Cross disaster response for this very large, rocky-runoff-zone county is no longer ME, MYSELF, AND I. Now, when the creek rises, it goes back to being my friend who I sat beside while I watched the rabbits play in the shed.

~Susan

----Original Message Follows---- To: Susan Hinton Subject: Re: Hinton Family News Flash Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:01:06 +1100

Hi Susan,

I'm shocked to hear about your fire but so happy that you and Hardiman, the instruments, your pets etc are ok A near miss is a wonderful thing - when you get over the shock. It reminds you of what you hold most dear in your life.

I know that you are probably suffering already from Post Traumatic Shock Disorder (PTSD) after your recent negative work experiences, and hypersensitivity to pain and other traumas is a part of that so everything seems magnified a thousandfold.

To look up info on PTSD have a look at Tim Field's site on workplace bullying http://www.successunlimited.co.uk/PTSD/index.htm

Hang in there, find ways to get yourself back in balance - emotional, mental, spiritual and physical balance - including your adrenalin therapies. I will send you lots of Reiki.

I just had a feeling/intuition that you need to be near running water, maybe a creek or stream through a beautiful untouched green landscape. Just "drink" in all of it, get lost in it. The sounds and sight of the water and the surrounding landscape will help you to find your inner peace again, or at least to find out which direction to look for it again. The sound of the water can also help to stop your brain from overacting, thoughts going round & round in your head without stopping.

I know that you will reach your own inner balance again -- [deletion, SH] ... You are a determined lady and you have the love and support not only of Hardiman [Greg] and your nearest and dearest [family], but also of a huge number of Mudcateers, all cheering you on, including me.

Just picture us all dressed in cheerleader's outfits. What a scream!

Love & light,

H.


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 09:26 PM

Helen flung love halfway 'round the world and brought a still-unfolding peace to what had been a really awful day.

I choose to learn from HER.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Dec 00 - 11:13 PM

Smoke damage to the computers may take me offline at any time. I'm mostly using this 486 to deal with the insurance claim and find a good electronics restoration service to vet the Mac I had just bought and not started using. I really appreciate those friends who are willing to paste-post for me from e-mail. Thank God for Hotmail, accessible from anywhwere.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 01:02 AM

Sorry I wasn't more help with this and other crap, but, need we say I have indeed been busy? Nahhhhhhhh, whatcha?


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Subject: RE: Fire in Praise's Home
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Dec 00 - 02:29 AM

Aw bes/bud, your account with me is always paid up, don't you know that yet?

~S~


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