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Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?

Peter T. 06 Jan 01 - 03:37 PM
Nynia 06 Jan 01 - 03:43 PM
Jon Freeman 06 Jan 01 - 03:43 PM
CarolC 06 Jan 01 - 03:44 PM
MMario 06 Jan 01 - 03:54 PM
Gary T 06 Jan 01 - 03:55 PM
McGrath of Harlow 06 Jan 01 - 03:55 PM
CarolC 06 Jan 01 - 03:58 PM
MARINER 06 Jan 01 - 04:13 PM
GUEST,Sarah 06 Jan 01 - 04:56 PM
Jon Freeman 06 Jan 01 - 05:05 PM
Jeri 06 Jan 01 - 05:09 PM
GUEST,The bloke in the corner 06 Jan 01 - 05:13 PM
Llanfair 06 Jan 01 - 05:15 PM
Jeri 06 Jan 01 - 05:18 PM
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Long Firm Freddie 06 Jan 01 - 05:24 PM
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Subject: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Peter T.
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:37 PM

Speaking of evil secret cliques: How many Mudcatters are left handed? I am for one. (I am of course trying to relate beauty, genius, and difficulty with handling standard scissors together....). Anyone play their musical instrument differently as a result?

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Nynia
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:43 PM

Hey count me in Peter, at least I write left-handed. For some reason I play guitar and sports like golf right-handed. Just like to be different I guess.


Nynia


:-)

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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:43 PM

I think that similar subjects have cropped up here before but I am a left hander who plays right handed.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:44 PM

Oh! Oh! Me Me!! I'm left handed! Does this mean I get to be part of a secret clique?

(I do not play my instrument differently as a result. Playing an accordion is like patting your head rubbing your belly and dancing a jig all at the same time. It doesn't matter which hand you pat with and which hand you rub with.)

Carol


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: MMario
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:54 PM

leftie also. I don't think I sing any differently then right handers...


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Gary T
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:55 PM

I'm lefty and I play left-handed guitar.


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:55 PM

What about left-footers?


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 03:58 PM

McGrath of Harlow, what instrument do you play with your left foot?


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: MARINER
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 04:13 PM

Both myself and my wife are left handed, our 4 children are right handed, but our grandson is left handed. I'm told that two lefties create a right handed child. I'm learning the 5 string right handed ,not easy. In Ireland left handed people are called CIOTOGS,(emphasis on the O) Mariner


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: GUEST,Sarah
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 04:56 PM

I don't understand: aren't most instruments inherently left-handed? At least most stringed instruments -- the most dexterity is required of the left hand. Therefore and hence, think of how naturally advantaged we are!

I guess I get to be in the secret clique (oh boy! oh boy!), where the fun part is watching right-handed people try to use my scissors.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:05 PM

Scissors... It wasn't until I was about 30 (1990) that I found out why I struggled so much with scissors. I just hope that people, especially teachers, are more aware of the problems left handed people can have with everyday objects that are (usually) designed for right handers.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:09 PM

Technically, I'm ambidextrous, but I've always thought of myself as left handed. I write and eat leftie, but play instruments and throw things rightie. I use tools such as screwdrivers, wrenches and hammers with both.


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: GUEST,The bloke in the corner
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:13 PM

As a cuddy-wifter (Geordie slang for being left handed) I've got a left handed guitar, octave mandola, bouzouki and banjo, the last two of which I changed myself. It's a real problem if you came to music late in life (at 42 in my case) when it's just not on to learn to play right handed. There's much less choice with left handed instruments, and when I bought my octave mandola the nice man at the Music Room altered it for me. BUT - thank God for the harmonica, being left-mouthed is no problem, and I'm definitely ambidextrous when it comes to the Bodhran. Perhaps I'm in a clique all of my own...


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Llanfair
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:15 PM

I think we've had this discussion before!! I write left-handed, but do everything else right-handed.
Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:18 PM

Jon, my mom realized I was having problems with scissors and went looking for a pair of left-handed ones. By the time she found them, I'd learned how to use them right-handed. I don't ever think it'll make me famous, but I can use either leftie or rightie scissors with either hand...


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Midchuck
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:21 PM

I am also left-handed, but play guitar "right-handed." I agree that it actually makes more sense early on, since the left hand has to do more complex stuff than the right, in the early stages of learning to play; at least if you're doing folk stuff.

My wife is also left handed and plays fiddle right handed.

We have one right handed child and one more or less ambidextrous one.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Long Firm Freddie
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:24 PM

I do things requiring accuracy (writing, playing darts, snooker, moving chess pieces) left handed.

Anything requiring brute force and ignorance (eg playing guitar Freddie style) I do right handed.

Shooting (rifles or archery) I do left handed, but right eyed.

Scratching my right elbow I do left handed.

Finding my backside takes both hands.

LFF


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:28 PM

Jeri, I do use scissors right handed and a pretty much the same as you when it comes to being able to use both hands equally well and have no problems with the tools you mentioned before. I do however find I can get finer control with my left hand than with my right, e.g. writing.

I would suspect that left handers tend to be more ambidextrous than right handers because they have had to learn to do many things "the wrong way round". My concern is more one that many people may have been thought to be clumsy, etc. for reasons that people, especially teachers should be aware of such as the usage of a right handed tool with the left hand.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Matt_R
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:31 PM

Not me!


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: GUEST,Sarah
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:33 PM

My first grade teacher sent me home in tears the first day of school, insisting I write with my right hand. My mother was in the principal's office in war-paint the next morning. End of problem. It really relies on the parents and their understanding that it's perfectly normal and NOT something to be "overcome."

On the other hand (oops, sorry...), it's much easier for me to teach a right-handed child how to tie his shoes. I don't have to get behind them, 'cause I tie shoes left-handed.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:35 PM

Matt, did we say that a right hander could post to OUR seceret clique?

You are nothing but a SCUMBAG!!!

Jon


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: GUEST,Sarah
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:37 PM

Now, Jon, don't we need a token righty? Or a mascot? Matt-the-Mascot of the the Secret Clique...I like it.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:47 PM

OK Sarah, I'll go along with that.

Jon

(Nearly falling off his chair laughing at the idea - I've not quite learned how to LMAO yet - it stays put)


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: GUEST,Sarah
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:55 PM

Also, we ought to consider Secret Decoder Scissors.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 06:07 PM

"Cuddy-wifter"? I like that.
Yep, I'm left-handed and proud of it.

You will notice that left-handers are a majority among the people who provide technical help around here.
If you've watched the Help Forum lately, you might think that majority is one hundred percent.
Of course, if I'm left-handed, one would think that JoeClones™ would also be...

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Matt_R
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 06:16 PM

Yeah, but what hand do I use when I'm alone and...opps...forget it.


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: JenEllen
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 06:17 PM

Yup..I'm a leftie along the same lines as Jeri. And for the bow/rifle I shoot left-handed but right-eyed. Drove my surgery instructor in college crazy because I use the scalpel left-handed, but tie sutures with my right.

The kicker was last summer when I broke my left wrist. I had to live right-handed for a few weeks and nearly went round the bend because of it. All the little things you become accustomed to seem nothing but clumsy.

~Jen


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 06:23 PM

Elizabeth Cotton was left-handed and played a guitar strung the right-handed way, I believe - with some very interesting results.

Have many left-handed guitarists tried playing their right-handed fruiends' guitars. I've tried it with left-handed guitars (being right-handed), and it's a real bugger - but there aren't as many guitars around strung left-handed so the chance doesn't come up so often.

I've been dying to get hold of a mandolin strung left-handed style, ever since someone on another thread pointed out something that had never occurred to me - the tuning EADG on a mandolin is the same as the lower strings on a guitar, but back to front


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: GUEST,Sarah
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 06:59 PM

Elizabeth Cotton learned to play the guitar upside down and backwards, because she was using her older brother's guitar without his permission and she didn't think there'd be time to restring it twice.

Matt, as long as you don't get weird and tie yourself up, I don't think it matters.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 07:39 PM

I have both a left hand and a right hand- does that count?

Eb


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Ribbit
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 07:45 PM

We're all born left-handed, people become right-handed when they commit their first sin. Maybe we should have a Mattscot? *BG* runnin and duckin in Maine Thom the leftie


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 08:19 PM

I should not say this in front of all you lefties- but I have always suspected that left-handed people are smarter? more intuitive? cleverer? than righties. I don't really know where I got the idea. (Certainly not from observation.*BG*)

For the record, I am decidedly right handed.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 08:28 PM

This is obviously a Communist conspiracy and I will be reporting you to Col. MAV and The Conservative Cavalry who will deal with such treasonous behavior in a tried and true American way.........they will don their hoods and bedsheets and hang your leftist asses from a tree in front of a fiery cross!!!!

Well, either that or they'll spend the time trying to grab their ass with either hand..................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: GUEST,Sarah
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 08:29 PM

Ebbie, obviously you are a person of great discernment. But we're just playing it down so as not to be too obvious. We want to leave the pods around surreptitiously.

Sarah (no longer a guest so I can be certain of qualifying for the Secret Clique.)


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Sourdough
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 08:44 PM

I play guitar clumsily right handed. Does that qualify me? Also, some of my best freiends are Lefties.

Sourdough


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: okthen
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 08:44 PM

This whole thread seems very SINESTER to me

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: kimmers
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 10:05 PM

I write and eat leftie, play instruments rightie, and throw (if you can call it that) rightie. I bat leftie and use a pool cue leftie, and used to fence leftie.

I use my laptop's touch-pad with my right hand. This means I can eat or write with one hand and surf with the other. This is a dangerous thing.

I noticed a *lot* of lefties in med school. Coincidence?


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 10:37 PM

A lot of people think that stringed instruments are inherently left-handed because, to begin with, the difficult bit to learn is the (lefthand) fingering.  In fact, the really complicated part belongs to the right-hand, whether picking, bowing, or whatever, as most people eventually discover.  Although my mother and brother are lefthanded, I've always been predominantly righthanded, like my father -it seems to average out like that in families that have both.  I began to learn to play the guitar once, but that was tuned upside-down for a left-hander; at the time it seemed quite natural, but I don't think I could do it now.  I've always suspected that the hammered dulcimer ought to be set up with the bass in the lower left rather than right; as it stands, it does seem like an instrument for lefties.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: aussiebloke
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 10:40 PM

Sinister indeed...

I believe that I may be the proud owner (and player) of the worlds only left-handed lagerphone-bow.

The 'Men-Of-God' - at the Christian Brothers College I attended years ago offered to convert me from a happy enough lefty to a 'God-Fearing-Righty' when I attended their paedophile infested violent place of incarceration er, fine learning establishment, at the ripe old age of 11 or so.

Thankfully, my parents declined their offer, the Brothers were left to curse and mutter amongst themselves and failed on both counts - leaving me without a potential stutter or worse, and with sufficient coordination intact to become a percussionist, if other 'catters will accept that word for 'he-who-bangs-and-shakes-things'.

I am not ambimousterous - I resort to driving a right placed mouse with my left hand using a crossover technique.

Cheers

aussiebloke - shameless player of bodhràn in public...


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 10:53 PM

Malcolm, I miss your reasoning on the HD.........I'm a rightie and I find no problem with the right side bass rail. As a matter of fact, since I have greater "accuracy" (for lack of a better word) with my right, its easier to grab a course over there as needed without looking. In playing harmonies using the bass rail, I suppose there is a danger of having a harder strike with my right hand, but I really have never found that to be a problem.

Can you explain a little more about what you meant?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Sarah2
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 11:34 PM

Can't agree, Malcolm: I've always found it easy to do picking patterns, bowing, etc. with my right hand, where a delicate touch is needed, and the walking around and forcing my fingers into reaches on the fretboard or into new chord positions with my left hand. I don't play an instrument that requires bowing any longer, since I lost custody of the upright, but I don't remember having trouble with the bow.

I'll give you one point, though: I still can't hold onto a flat pick with my right hand; it just flies off across the room after three or four licks. So I finger pick of necessity.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 06 Jan 01 - 11:40 PM

I have no problem holding the flat pick with my right hand. I did when I first started but I soon got over that although I have no idea what I changed to achieve it - it just happened. I still have problems with slipping picks when y hands are hot and sweaty - my remedy is to roughen the surface with a bit of sandpaper such as a match box but there are many others.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 12:04 AM

there are places who specialize in product for leftys...here are a couple

http://www.lefthandpublishing.com/

http://www.lefty.co.nz/

not for me, though...I am SO right-handed I can barely pick my nose with my left hand


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 12:07 AM

Sarah:  Fair enough; though the majority of instruments were certainly designed with the assumption of right, not left-handedness.  Lefthanders do seem more dextrous (if you'll excuse the term) with their less-favoured hand than do righthanders, generally because circumstances force them to be.  Mind you, there isn't much I can't do with my left hand (except as described below!), though I've never taken the time to learn to write or draw accurately with it, having been lucky enough not to have needed to.

'Spaw:  Really just that I always seemed to find myself having to cross hands in what was, for me, an uncomfortable fashion.  I was trying to play melody with my right hand and bass with my left -as you'd do on a keyboard- but having the bass on the right was, for me, the opposite of what seemed like a natural setup; it would have felt more natural to me, at the time, to have started with the lowest note at bottom left and the highest at top right, as in most stringed instruments.  That's the best I can manage by way of explanation, and I never became an accomplished enough player to get beyond that, though I still intend to get the thing set up and working again one day...

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Crazy Eddie
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 12:35 AM

Scissors? HAH! Easy Peasy!
If you really want to have fun get yourself a left-handed corkscrew. Then ask a "dextrous" person to open the wine! Left-handed can-openers are good too. So, when do we get to take over the world, and make everyone do things OUR WAY? HA HA HA HA HA (Sound of Evil Manic laughter)


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: campfire
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 01:02 AM

Finally a clique I can be in!!! Left-handed, play rightie; use that as an excuse for not being very good (LOL)

campfire


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Gary T
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 01:25 AM

I always figured if there were a real overall advantage to most people in doing guitar chording/fingering with their dominant hand, then all the righties would want lefty guitars. Most righties, in my experience, wouldn't even consider playing a lefty instrument.

Lefties vary in how strongly, and often in what areas, they want to do things left-handed (I have a pretty strong sense of dominance--just holding a guitar in the right-handed manner feels extremely awkward, so I never considered playing right-handed). Factor in our having to do a fair amount of right-handed things in this world, and the scarcity of left-handed instruments, and it's no wonder that a number of us play guitar right-handed.


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 02:02 AM

This is really strange, how many lefties are string players......or musicians in general.

I can hammer, eat,almost anything except write and play fiddle leftie. I am definitely Right Ambi; I am also "left eyed"....

Daughter Kate is just the opposite. Mostly Leftie, but Right Eyed. She can do everything right handed except write......and the big problem around here is not scissors but the damn manual can opener. She just can't use it at all.

(I know kat will kill me for this, but.......try getting a rifle up to your right shoulder and using the scope left eyed........doesn't work real well. Just as well I don't want to kill things anymore!)


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Quincy
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 06:41 AM

Me and Jimi Henrix never had any problems with our left hands!!!

Yvonne


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Subject: RE: Secret Clique:How Many LeftHanded MCers?
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 07 Jan 01 - 07:35 AM

Scorcha...you sure she can't use the can opener the way I can't use the clothes iron? ;-)


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