Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs

Subject: Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs
From: Haruo
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 01:04 AM

As a proud Ross (SPEM SVCCESSVS ALIT!!!) I'm looking for songs specially associated with my Clan, and/or with the Earldom of Ross or County Ross & Cromarty, or our eponymous promontory. In Gaelic, Lallans, Latin or English. Any suggestions welcome (but of course I've already got the ones a search for Ross in the DigiTrad turns up)...

Liland

Subject: RE: Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs
From: Calach
Date: 10 Jan 01 - 04:07 AM

Hi there, edinburgh calling......
My girlfriend from Kansas has a Ross grandmother, she'd be interested...
In the meantime, I'll ask around the folkclubs here and see what I can dredge up for you.

Subject: RE: Clann R=s - Clan Ross songs
From: Thyme2dream
Date: 13 Jan 01 - 04:30 AM

Okay-refreshing this since Im interested too...(the aformentioned g/f in Kansas) Anyone have any suggestions? Keep askin Ian!

Karla

Subject: RE: Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs
From: Haruo
Date: 13 Jan 01 - 01:43 PM

Thanks, Karla. The only "Ross" song I knew growing up as one was an advertising jingle, "Doctor Ross Dog Food is Doggone Good!" Not much of a heritage!

Liland

Subject: Refresh
From: Haruo
Date: 14 May 01 - 07:31 PM

Hope springs eternal (a fancy way to say "refresh")...

Subject: RE: Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 May 01 - 07:46 PM

Go here,(Walshaw's web wide abc index) and wait patiently for it to load, then you will find Roslin Castle, 3 choices for Ross Castle and Ross Reel. If you don't have an abc program to translate let me know and I'll do something.......

Subject: RE: Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs
From: pattyClink
Date: 15 May 01 - 03:55 PM

Well, music just will not stay in family lines, it wanders from house to house... not like a nice respectable tartan!

Only useful hint I can offer is get a detailed map of where the folks came from, write town town names, Loch names, rivers, etc. and start punching them in the DT one at a time, see if anything hits...

Also, there is a wonderful book (one of O'Neill's?) which relates little bios of the great Irish pipers and other musicians. So, does anybody know of a similar work which might be mined for Scottish musicians of the Ross persuasion? You might find they wrote some stuff which survived.

Subject: RE: Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs
From: MARINER
Date: 15 May 01 - 06:57 PM

Re Ross musicians. One of Irelands best malodeon players was the late George Ross, from Wexford town.

Subject: RE: Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs
From: Haruo
Date: 15 May 01 - 08:08 PM

Actually part of my ancestral lore as a kid was the notion that if my Ross ancestor had only stayed Scotlandside, and if Bonnie Prince Charlie had only prevailed at Culloden Moor, I would be in line to be the hereditary piper to the Scottish Throne. If there were anything (however rarefied) to this it might suggest that there were indeed Ross composers (though they might not have written their compositions down) in my line. ...

Sorcha, thanks. I don't have an abc program, but I will get one as soon as I'm functionally online (presently supposedly pending addition of about 5Mb to my RAM) at home.

Liland

Subject: RE: Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 15 May 01 - 09:15 PM

Roslin Castle won't get you very far; it was originally called The House of Glam(i)s, and got its new name from a new song that Hewitt set to it.  This was published in the first volume of the Scots Musical Museum.  Burns wrote his song The Gloomy Night Is Gath'ring Fast (1786) to the same melody, but when this was published in volume 3 of the Musical Museum, it was set to another tune, as Hewitt had already bagged the preferred one.  But for this chance, it could as easily be called today Gloomy Night.  For a little bit more on the tune, which later became popular in America, see  Roslyn Castle

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 15 May 01 - 09:22 PM

I should also mention that a search for ross at  The Fiddler's Companion  will get you plenty of stuff to look into.

Subject: RE: Clann Ròs - Clan Ross songs
From: Haruo
Date: 18 May 01 - 11:33 PM

Thanks!

Líolaind