Help: Unusual Devon songs

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: Hawker
Date: 14 Feb 01 - 04:42 PM

Deni, It's not that I find it BORING, I also find it riveting, but after a couple of hours you get a bit sleepy, and unlike you I don't do the dots, so I can't work the tunes out easily. Its words and written notes - the notes about the songs are the most fascinating...... now I could wax lyrical about them for ages! - well you know that! I'll see if I can nick father in laws recor at the weekend with thos songs on for you, see you then, Lucy

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: Hawker
Date: 15 Feb 01 - 05:04 AM

Deni, Found it! LP Devon Tradition - An anthology from Traditional Singers - such as Amy Birch, Phoebe birch, Avice Clarke, Noby Clarke, Joe Davies, Harold Gill, Charlie Hill, Brain Holland, Sophie Isaacs, Henry Mitchemore, Tommy OrchardSnr & Jnr, Bii Parnell, Bob Penfold, Nelson Penfold, George Roberts, Jim Sanders & Bob Small. Songs suich as The Exmoor Ram, The Molecatcher, When I was a young man, Head-a-nodding The leg 'o'o the mallard to name a few, Really great VERY traditional stuff.... I'll play it at the weekend if Ned doesn't get called out! Its on TOPIC records, don't know if it is still available.

Also it may be worth chatting to Jackie & Bob Patten who live near Crediton, I will give you their E-mail address at the weekend, they are collectors of Devon tradition and song and have a vast collection that has to be worth fishing through, they may have a few suggestions.

see you soon, Lucy

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: Jo Taylor
Date: 19 Feb 01 - 06:32 PM

Deni, I'm an exile from Devon myself, originally North Devon then Exeter & Chudleigh. Do you know Paul Wilson & Marilyn Tucker in Okehampton who run the Wren Trust? Their projects should give you a bit to go on with. I can think of quite a few other sources, but can't tell which you are familiar with already other than Ken Penney's circle, the Dartmoor Folk Festival crowd... there, you might come across Nigel Sture who some years ago released a cassette called 'Songs of the South Devon Coast' with his then band Rumpus - based near Kingsbridge. Hope this helps.

Jo Taylor

Exiled in France

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: Deni
Date: 21 Feb 01 - 05:41 PM

To Jo Taylor,

Will probably try the contacts you suggest, although, the mudcatters have turned up quite a few ideas. I do see a few of those you mentioned from time to time, and will be at the Pennymoor singaround in June.

Thanks for your help. Shame you are exiled from our misty moors!

Cheers

Deni

Subject: Add: Farmer's Daughter tunes
From: Snuffy
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 08:42 AM

ABC tunes for 2 versions of the Farmer's Daughter have been added in this thread Tune Req: The Highwayman Outwitted

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: Leadfingers
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 09:23 AM

Margarets Waltz and Farewell to Devon were written by Pat Shaw for the Retirement of tHe lady who was heavily involved in EFDSS in devon , Margaret whose surname I cant remember . I have a lovely story that Aly Bain collected M's W in Canada, and on return to UK played it to Pat , who said 'Ah Yes! I remember writing that!'

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 10:50 AM

The lady in question was Margaret Grant; Margaret's Waltz (and the dance that goes with it) were written on the occasion of her retirement as EFDSS representative in Devon (1959).

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 11:06 AM

Deni (or anybody else):

I don't know whether in the last four years or so you've found the tune for Jan's Courting or not. If you still need it, and want it, it's on my CD, The Real Story, and I would on request copy it off and send it as an e-mail attachment. No problem. That offer is good for anyone else who's interested, too.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: Tradsinger
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 03:15 PM

I have just picked up on this thread as I only joined Mudcat recently. I can claim some knowledge of Devon songs from my various sojourns and collecting trips down there. The famous Roud index lists 759 songs collected in Devon, mainly by Sharp, Baring-Gould, Sam Richards and, ahem, me. Bob and Jackie Patten plus Cyril Tawney have all done some song collecting in Devon. Also, look at the work that Martin Graebe is doing currently on the Baring-Gould collection. The lovely Charlie Hill, traditional singer from Dartmoor, told me that he used to sing songs by one 'Jan Stewer' which were rustic-type songs in Devon dialect. These include 'When mother and me joined in' - a great song and 'Out stepped mother and me'. Why has no-one yet mentioned 'Tavistock Goosey Fair'? - cracking song. Then there are lots of songs from Devon travellers (gypsies) including the wonderful Birch/Orchard family of singers, musicians and step dancers. I sing a snatch of the Orchard family version of Broomfield Hill at
http://www.cmarge.demon.co.uk/gwilym/Stepaway.html

I sing 'Jan's Courtship'which I got from a singer who learnt it in Warwickshire, but I note that the words are almost identical to those in the 19 Jan 01 posting. If I knew how to write abc music I would post it, but I don't so I can't.

Happy to chat more about songs from Devon any time.

Gwilym

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: BB
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 12:48 PM

We'll do so at Miskin, Gwilym.

Barbara Brown

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: Tradsinger
Date: 23 Jul 06 - 03:29 PM

Does anyone have a copy of the 'Devon Tradition' LP that they would be willing to either sell me or put onto cassette/CD for me? I would be eternally grateful.

Gwilym

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: GUEST
Date: 30 May 11 - 10:35 AM

A lot of time has gone by since we talked about this Devon Tradition LP. Does anyone know where we can get a copy?did you ever manage to get one Gwilym?



Cheers
Deni

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: Gurney
Date: 30 May 11 - 03:27 PM

Cyril Tawney recorded a LP titled something like 'Traditional Children's Songs from Devon and Cornwall,' which is fully source-accredited, I remember. I have it somewhere.
A call to Rosemary Tawney might result in a copy.

Subject: RE: Help: Unusual Devon songs
From: GUEST,ClaireO
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 09:34 AM

Hi there

I was just reading this thread and noticed the question about the Devon Traditional LP. My parents have a copy in Crediton. I'll be back there in a few weeks and will dig it out. I'm pretty sure I recorded it onto tape a few years back but it's easily done again. Might be able to get it onto the computer this time instead.

Watch this space. ha ha

Claire