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katlaughing 02 Feb 01 - 12:58 PM
katlaughing 02 Feb 01 - 01:03 PM
Wesley S 02 Feb 01 - 01:12 PM
katlaughing 02 Feb 01 - 01:14 PM
GUEST,~Susan 02 Feb 01 - 01:18 PM
katlaughing 02 Feb 01 - 01:20 PM
MMario 02 Feb 01 - 01:20 PM
katlaughing 02 Feb 01 - 01:21 PM
Bert 02 Feb 01 - 01:21 PM
Mark Clark 02 Feb 01 - 01:29 PM
mousethief 02 Feb 01 - 01:36 PM
Roger in Sheffield 02 Feb 01 - 01:42 PM
katlaughing 02 Feb 01 - 02:01 PM
Marion 02 Feb 01 - 02:11 PM
blt 02 Feb 01 - 02:25 PM
katlaughing 02 Feb 01 - 02:40 PM
Lonesome EJ 02 Feb 01 - 03:00 PM
Stewart 02 Feb 01 - 03:02 PM
jeffp 02 Feb 01 - 03:39 PM
Wesley S 02 Feb 01 - 03:47 PM
Pseudolus 02 Feb 01 - 03:59 PM
jeffp 02 Feb 01 - 04:01 PM
Megan L 02 Feb 01 - 04:06 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 02 Feb 01 - 04:53 PM
MMario 02 Feb 01 - 05:03 PM
GUEST, ~S~ 02 Feb 01 - 11:28 PM
MMario 02 Feb 01 - 11:38 PM
GUEST 03 Feb 01 - 11:17 AM
GUEST,Art Thieme 03 Feb 01 - 11:32 AM
GUEST, ~S~ 03 Feb 01 - 01:39 PM
katlaughing 03 Feb 01 - 02:19 PM
John P 04 Feb 01 - 10:31 AM
GUEST,Kernow Jon 04 Feb 01 - 11:53 AM
Mark Clark 04 Feb 01 - 04:58 PM
Dave Wynn 04 Feb 01 - 05:22 PM
wysiwyg 04 Feb 01 - 05:29 PM
John P 05 Feb 01 - 09:10 AM
black walnut 05 Feb 01 - 10:06 AM
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Deckman 05 Feb 01 - 06:39 PM
jeepman (inactive) 05 Feb 01 - 07:30 PM
Ebbie 05 Feb 01 - 08:52 PM
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Subject: Thread for music
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 12:58 PM

You know I love most of the BS threads and I know I don't have to click on them, but there seems to be a preponderance of nonsensical BS threads mucking up the top slots of the forum, SO, at the risk of sounding like an oldtimer, please try to keep this thread for music only and tell us what special songs you've just found or are working on or just heard or whatever, as long as it's to do with music!

Right, then I'll start:

I am learning Jean Ritchie's "One I Love" and hope to be able to play my new dulcimer with it, soon. Have also been singing "Kitty Alone" a lot, as it is simple and beautiful, IMO.

I heard a couple of new ones in Ivan B.'s concert last night, including the cyber-debut of Jeri's beautiful song, "My Mother's Garden", based on a posting of bet's, my sister. Ivan did a superb job of it.

As I've only had my ducli for two days now, I have scads to learn on it, but I've got Go Tell Aunt Rhoady down pretty well.

So what are you working on, etc.?


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:03 PM

Sorry for the duplicate threads. Please post to this one. Thanks


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Wesley S
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:12 PM

Well I've worked up "Hobo's Lullaby" recently and I'm working on a song from a Geoff Muldaur CD called "Just A Little While To Stay Here". Also a Rev Gary Davis tune called "I Will Do My Last Singing In This World Someday". And a friend is supposed to give me the music to "On The Sunny Side Of The Street".


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:14 PM

MOVED FROM DUPLICATE THREAD:

Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: GUEST, ~Susan
Date: 02-Feb-01 - 01:08 PM

Everyone we jam with, usually, is involved with our parish life. Hardi met a fellow from ANOTHER church who jams with people who are all from HIS church. This fellow wanted to try banjo, so Hardi is helping him with that, and it turns out the guy's wife autoharps and wants to try a 21-chord model, of which I have two.

SO, their schedules are crazy like ours, and tonight? If all goes as planned? They are coming over to my NEWLY-CLEANED and re-knick-knacked home, without being PARISHIONERS, late-- at 10PM-- night owl season-- to jam!! That is the hour Hardi and I usually play, once the day has wound down, so it will be great!

There are several other people we plan on doing this with. To hell with getting 12 or more people together once a month! That's fine, but we want to play much oftener and we don't need a whole crowd to do it! And some are playing at a much higher lefvel than others-- so mixing the groups up should be very productive.

One piece we will try is a nice little ditty mudcatter Bernard e-mailed us. I think it's called Dick's Maggot!

Who sez there's no folk scene in our county!! It's at OUR house and I didn't know it!

Do drop in.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: GUEST,~Susan
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:18 PM

The "What Would You Do Differently" thread has a lot in common with this one, too, kat. I hope people will visit both threads for the angles they offer.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:20 PM

MOVED FROM DUPLICATE THREAD:

Subject: RE: Thread for music,
From: Benjamin
Date: 02-Feb-01 - 01:06 PM

I'm working on John Dowland's The Most Sacred Queen Elizabeth, her Gillard and Francisco Tárrega's Danza Mora on classical guitar. I haven't had much time to really learn anything else.


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: MMario
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:20 PM

I've been spending a lot of time lately on recreating a several-generations old crochet project - but spend my copmmuting time practicing songs. Most lately seem to be "weepy" love songs


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:21 PM

MOVED FROM DUPLICATE THREAD:

Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: GUEST,~Susan
Date: 02-Feb-01 - 01:10
Hey kat, too late-- just retitle two of them, then there can be three new music threads-- give each a different emphasis!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Bert
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:21 PM

I've been working on finding chords for all the songs that I know.

As a break from that I am learning McGrath of Harlow's "Blue Clicky Thing", but I'm finding it very difficult to make it my own, I keep finding myself imitating McGrath's accent.


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Mark Clark
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:29 PM

Well, I'm not sure "working" is the operative word in my case but I've started to fool around with a finger picking version of "Take The A Train" and spending a few idle moments messing about with Merle Travis' instrumental version of "e;The Sheik Of Araby". I don't know how these will work out but at least I'm having fun.

Thanks for a music thread, Kat.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: mousethief
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:36 PM

Right now I'm sort of between musical projects. I put new strings on my guitar and am enjoying playing the same old songs with new, smooth, shiny strings. I don't know which direction I'll go next. Probably should learn a new song or two (new to me, anyway). I'd love to learn to play Mississippi John Hurt's "Candyman" but can't find a tab.

Alex


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 01:42 PM

Have you put up a picture of your new instrument yet Kat, I would love to see it

I am still working on everything!!!
Irish tunes for the Irish sessions
English tunes for the English sessions
mainly on the confidence to dive in and play along

Roger


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Subject: Noreen's Posting
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 02:01 PM

MOVED FROM OTHER THREAD:

kat- I'm obsessed with Fear a Bhata at the moment, which is why I resurrected this thread. I think it's quite a long-term project for me, though.

I'm still in love with everything Niamh Parsons has ever done, and have just begun to find out about Stan Rogers- thanks, Dave tam.

Noreen


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Marion
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 02:11 PM

My big project at the moment is playing Maple Sugar (an Ottawa Valley fiddle tune) on the guitar - playing the melody up to speed and adding bass notes with my thumb. This is an ambitious project for me as I don't normally play melodies on guitar - I just strum or pick chords for songs with the occasional extra twiddly thing between sung parts.

Marion


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: blt
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 02:25 PM

Thanks, Kat, for this refocusing effort. I've been a bit turned off by the BS threads.

I'm working on matching a set of new lyrics with a traditional flatpicking or fingerpicking style, and a relatively traditional melody pattern. This means I'm playing around still with a Capo, with the tempo, with harmonies, and with the lyrics. I'd also like to figure out a mandolin part.

blt


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 02:40 PM

Thanks, everyone, and thanks to those of you whose postings I moved. I hope you don't mind.

Roger in Sheffield, thanks, you can read about my duclimer, my very first one(!) and see a picture of it by clicking on the links Spaw and I included, in this thread: Finally found my instrument!!

kat


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 03:00 PM

Wow, a Music thread. Novel idea, Kat.

I have been bending my fingers into all sorts of odd configurations in an effort to learn "Fretboard Logic", a method of guitar that uses only bar chords.

For fun, I've recently taped versions of Townes Van Zandt's Tecumseh Valley and Our Mother the Mountain, along with five of my own tunes played on my 6 and 12 strings and sung by me. Still playing in my Blues Band, Terraplane, and our next gig is the Sports Inn in Denver Feb 16 and 17.


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Stewart
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 03:02 PM

Greetings from Seattle. We just had our first trad (British Isles, Northern Lands) music jam (instrumental & vocal, monthly, first Thurs)last night in Fremont (Wit's End Bookstore). About 9 people incl John P. (of Telynor) with his cittern, Chris R. with her squeeze box and vast repertoire of English and Irish songs, Davie with guitar, flute, Irish tunes and songs, and Julie, a beautiful Irish singer, a couple of fiddle players and two singer/guitarists. Had a great time -- any Seattle trad musicians are welcome to join us.

I'm currently working on some Klezzmer/Yiddish fiddling and singing. Performed Papirosn at the open mic Wed night and am working on singing Shtil di Nakht. And trying to keep up on my Irish fiddling.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: jeffp
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 03:39 PM

I'm working on a solo acoustic version of Steve Earl's Copperhead Road. I used to play on it in the band I was in and we rocked it. It's a bit more of a challenge to find a good way to present it with just one voice and one acoustic guitar, but I think I'm getting there. Now, if I ever do it the same way twice in a row, i'll be there! .......or not.*G*

jeffp


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Wesley S
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 03:47 PM

Jeff - I didn't get to see it but I understand that Copperhead Road worked really well as a bluegrass song when Steve Earle was on the road with Del McCrory.


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Pseudolus
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 03:59 PM

I enjoy the BS threads and I enjoy the music threads. I guess I'm bi-threadial. In any case, lately I've been working on a lot of things. In particular I've been working on Taxi by Harry Chapin. I love the song and printed it out years ago but I've had some difficulty getting it to sound the way I want it to what with just me and my guitar. I'm close, may try it out this Saturday Night.....

Frank


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: jeffp
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 04:01 PM

I saw Steve Earle do it solo with a mandolin one time on TV, I forget what show (many years ago). I liked it then and I'm liking what I'm doing with it now. I'm in the middle of transitioning from playing in a classic rock band to solo acoustic performer. Sort of tightening up the stuff I used to sit around the living room playing and learning more of that type of material. It's really rejuvenating my interest in music.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Megan L
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 04:06 PM

I must be going through a music hall phase just now, this week our friends baby has been sung of to sleep with

When I grow to old to dream

Beautiful dreamer

Bird in a gilded cage

and after the ball is over

Looking at that lot maybe I should pop in for a look at the depression thread.


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 04:53 PM

I just started a new rehearsal season with my chorus so am memorizing words to songs! Sweet Honey in the Rock's "Mae Frances", Ellen Epstein's "Life Comes In," and the good ol' Gartan Mother's Lullabye are taking up most of my time. But I'm also looking around for songs to put on my own solo program which I really wanna do this year.


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: MMario
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 05:03 PM

I will point out to all and sundry that the cure for too many "BS:" threads is start more music threads!!!!!

Find an obscure songbook and post lyrics! (Or tunes) - bring back an old thread that intregued you. Re-open a discussion about a song you love. Ask for interpretations or meanings...

I doubt if there are very many people out there - lurking or contributing - who don't have *SOMETHING* to share musically.


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: GUEST, ~S~
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 11:28 PM

... and they DID come over, and it was GREAT!

CRS tip-- carry post-it notes. "Wildwood Flower? In A, right? I always... No? In D? Oh what's that chord change you added right there.... uh..... what's that... oh yeah...."

Scribble the chord changes on the post-it; fits anywhere; take 'em home and voila! Your own mini=songbook!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: MMario
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 11:38 PM

so are you going to introduce them to the cat? *evil chortle*


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 11:17 AM

I tried, before they left. Computer is not their medium. But when I get the new one that can do PalTalk....

~S~


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 11:32 AM

Kat,

Thanks for this easy-going music thread. We did need that --just so folks won't forget.

Lately, I just listen since picking is a thing of the past for me. Mainly trad-leaning songs. CISCO HOUSTON is on my cassette player right now --- tapes I made of a TV show he hosted for CBS back in 1959 -- a one-time program called Folksound U.S.A. Also featured on this was Frank Warner (the great collector & a fine singer too), Joan Baez-very young, Earl Scruggs & Lester Flatt, John Lee Hooker doing his "Tupelo Flood" song---John Jacob Niles and other nice stuff too.
But I always listen to a ton of jazz too. (I'd love to be reincarnated as Lester Young.)

Thanks again, Kat. Nice to see.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: GUEST, ~S~
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 01:39 PM

Tonight I will lead the service music at church for the first time since before the fire. I am once again looking forward to what had become a strain. Friendships which have intensified in the last several months have a lot to do with it. (You know who-all you are.... thanks more than I can say.)

~S~


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Feb 01 - 02:19 PM

Art, glad to see you made here. I was thinking about you and a couple of others, especially, when I started this one. Thanks and that sounds like one helluva tape you're listening to! BTW, did you check out the other one I started, "Finally Found My Instrument!!"? I think you'd enjoy it, too.

Thanks to everyone else, too.

kat


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: John P
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 10:31 AM

I just started a new band that I am very excited about, and am talking to someone about joining my "regular" band and bringing in lots of new skills and sounds. The new band will be doing quirky dance tunes from all over Europe, with cittern (me), fiddle (Isla Ross), melodeon (John Kreiger), and wind instruments (Anna Peekstok). We are starting with a couple of Dutch tunes and a couple of Breton tunes. We don't even have a name yet.

When I'm not busy with that, I am learning to play the oud, writing a book arrangements of original tunes for small harp, and working up acousitc folk-rock arrangements of some medieval Spanish music.

Since I work for a company that builds musical instruments and has a large acoustic music store, I am involved with some sort of musical activity pretty much all the time. I love it.

John Peekstok


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: GUEST,Kernow Jon
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 11:53 AM

Thanks for this thread kat.
I'm busy practicing with a new small band (a splinter from the bigger one).
Have recently had the pleasure of meeting and hearing Sarah Grey, lovely banjo and vocals and last night met up with Cyril Tawney, hadn't seen him for 25 years.
All the best KJ


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Mark Clark
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 04:58 PM

John P, Where can one learn to play the oud? For that matter, where can one buy an oud? Do you think a westerner can learn to play dubka music?

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 05:22 PM

Trying for the 5th or 6th time to learn "The Setting" (an Irish emigration song I heard by The House Band). Can't seem to get it to performance quality and don't know why....

It's not particularly sophisticated or technically difficult but it just won't get there. Does this happen to everyone? (I hope so ..It hapens all too often to me).Nice thread.

Spot


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Feb 01 - 05:29 PM

Spot-- have you tried letting it be a different song than the one you have in your head? If you just turn your mind loose to re-create it as yours?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: John P
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 09:10 AM

Mark Clark, I am teaching myself to play the oud. I bought it at the acoustic music store I work at in Seattle. Yes, I think westerners can learn to play any music they want, it just takes a while to get there if the music is different enough from what we are used to. I'm using the oud for medieval, French, and some Bulgarian music.
John


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: black walnut
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 10:06 AM

KJ....where did you see Sarah? She's a great lady. I had the pleasure of getting to know her a bit at The Woods Music and Dance Camp a few summers ago.

Kat and threaders....
I'm too busy teaching music to do much music for myself these days. But in the car, driving hither and yon, I find myself singing some of my favourites, such as "All the Diamonds", "Another Train", "Raglan Road", "Sweet Maggie Gordon", "The Blackest Crow", "Braw Sailing", "Come to Light", "How can we be like the Lilies of the Field"....as well as a few songs I've written myself.

I'm joining a new songwriting group which has its first meeting in a couple of weeks....maybe that will inspire me to write another song. I've done most of my writing so far at the piano....I feel that I need a new song to go with the dulcimer, and maybe one for the harp....

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 12:32 PM

Thanks WYSIWYG...I will try that this week and let you know. This means having to be creative and not the usual copyist I hide behind...Tough call for Doggy!

Spot


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Deckman
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 06:39 PM

Hi Kat ... thanks again for the gentle thread. At 63, I'm dealing (and NOT very well) with caring for my elderly parents. Dad is 92, Mom is 87. What this means is that my time is VERY limited. As I deal with their aging issues, I'm increasingly drawn to pick up the old martin and return to the olde ballads that comfort me ... Braes of Yarrow, Peter Amberly, Pretty Saro, etc. I've always said that my favorite songs are like OLD FRIENDS. I return to them, time and time again, and they never let me down. Thanks for the topic. CHEERS, Bob Nelson


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: jeepman (inactive)
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 07:30 PM

Deckman, you have said it very well.Old songs and familiar tunes are like friends you call upon from time to time for help, relaxation and assurance that the world is still OK. I stay lost for hours with my Banjo and guitar.

I commend you on obviously caring so much for your folks. We should all be so lucky. Jeepman


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 08:52 PM

Today while two of us were waiting for a third mandolin player to join us, he did a bit of fingerpicking on my guitar. Do you know a bluesy tune called Buckdancer's Choice? Neat, neat tune. I'd like to learn it on mando, although he said he'd only heard it done on guitar. Has anyone heard it done on another instrument?

Eb


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: jeepman (inactive)
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 09:04 PM

What kind of Martin, Deckman? Year of birth? Jman


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Mark Clark
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 09:56 PM

Ebbie, You can hear Mudcatter Michael Kaye playing "Buckdancer's Choice and other tunes by following the link. I've always enjoyed playing that tune too. Don't think I've heard it on an instrument other than guitar.

      = Mark

Per PM from Mark: link is unavailable at this time
- la joeclone -


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 11:49 PM

Mark, the link didn't go through- said URL has unsafe spurious path elements- Wha'??

Maybe I can try reaching Michael K directly?

Thanks for trying. I did get my friend's playing on tape today so maybe I can learn it. It just seems that a mandolin's short, bright, ripply notes might work on the tune...

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 07:41 AM

Falling Down -- Gov't Mule... lots of cowboy chords and cowboy progressions.


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Giac
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 12:15 PM

Good thread, kat --

As happens frequently when I decide to look for older versions of songs, I opened a door to another world and got lost following tendrils that lead to other times.

A friend has a new baby (five weeks old now) who cries -- a lot. Sometimes I go over and "hold the baby" while the mother tries desperately to get a few things done, or just take a nap. I discovered early on that this particular baby is partial to old ballads, especially those with violence and gore. Her absolute favorite, for which she will stop screaming immediately, is Mary Hamilton. Hmmmm, infanticide. But, she also likes Jackaroe, which started this particular quest.

Her father, young and into electronic music (gahhhh!), heard me singing to Meredith and stopped to listen to the words. He was amazed to learn how "far back" the song goes, and that it actually has a "story." I remarked that there are a lot of songs about women dressing as men and going to sea, or into battle, etc., and there are songs about men dressing as women to escape, etc., etc. So, I started by searching Mudcat and found there are A LOT of songs that come up with the keyword "transvestite." From there I went to other sites and am now obcessed with this topic genre. Gad!

But, ultimately, these should be better for the baby than songs about sending infants out to sea in tiny boats, or having them dashed to the ground in a windstorm (rock-a-bye baby).

But when I'm ready to go to sleep, I put on a John Coltrane CD and let all those tension notes hang me out over the edge ...


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: GUEST,Kernow Jon
Date: 06 Feb 01 - 04:29 PM

Walnut
I saw Sarah at the St. Ives Folk Club in Cornwall, having come accross her singing in the street at Wadebridge last year. A lovely lady and talented too.
KJ


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: Mark Clark
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 01:06 AM

Oops again. I posted working links to Michael's work but it turns out we've been asked not to reference the host site from Mudcat. The good news is Joe spotted it and deleted my post before any harm was done.

Thanks, Joe.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Thread for music
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Feb 01 - 01:13 AM

Um, Mark, I am confused. I was the joeclone who noted in your posting above that the link didn't go to a working web addy. Had you posted something since then that Joe deleted? Do I need to go back and delete the addy I spelled out in the green font?

Thanks,

kat aka - la joeclone -


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