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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Kim C Date: 14 Feb 01 - 10:19 AM Rowana, I too have been known to dance in the supermarket. It's a harmless little guilty pleasure. At least in my local supers they don't play Moondance, and it's a good thing, because I can't do anything to that song but take off my clothes. (gulp did I just say that?) ;) |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Homeless Date: 14 Feb 01 - 09:00 AM That's the point Matt - it's not "just music." How would you feel if someone were continually to blow cigarette smoke directly in your face, or doused you in ice water, or poured vinegar on all your food? The "music" is a sensory assault. Why should the sense of hearing be any less important than any of the others? It takes your energy to deal with it, and it affects your moods. And the various styles of "music" are not seen the same by everyone. What one person might find enjoyable can grate on someone elses nerves unbearably. One of the guys I work with really enjoys jazz drumming. He has played CDs of multiple drummers playing different rhythms at the same time. He really enjoyed it, but I found it so chaotic that I couldn't concentrate on the work I was trying to do. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Peter T. Date: 14 Feb 01 - 08:55 AM No, it is a simulacrum of music. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Pseudolus Date: 14 Feb 01 - 08:54 AM I agree Matt and since I said (in another thread) that the only threads that bother me are the ones where people are bickering, I should stop. I knew what Kendall meant when he said "akin to rape" but I bickered anyway.....not sure why. I have the utmost respect for the opinions of the likes of Kendall, Peter T, and all the other posters in this thread and usually I get to the "agree to disagree" stage a lot sooner than this. The ironic thing is that there is a lot of background music that truly bothers me and I wonder why the owner(s) made that choice. I was sorta looking at this from a different angle..... c'est la vie... Frank
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 14 Feb 01 - 08:43 AM You guys..geez..it's just music! |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: kendall Date: 14 Feb 01 - 08:33 AM Frank, I liken it to rape because it is forced on me without my consent, and, I dont want it! What could be simpler? Before anyone gets a knot in their knickers, I am NOT saying it is the same as actual rape. The physical kind is so much more horrible, only the concept is similar. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: CarolC Date: 14 Feb 01 - 08:14 AM Ok, I talked to flattop. He doesn't remember any music either. In fact he's pretty convinced that there wasn't any. So either there wasn't any music, or we've both got a serious memory problem. (Yikes) |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Matt_R Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:38 PM I LOVE music wallpaper. If it wasn't for musical wallpaper, I wouldn't know half the music I do. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: wdyat12 Date: 13 Feb 01 - 11:00 PM Hey Folks! What about the muzak they play this time of year at ice skating rinks? Straus Waltzes, Woo Tang Clan, the theme from Leave it to Beaver, and AC/DC, we've come a long way in the 21st century don't you think? wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Pseudolus Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:49 PM akin to rape? I give up..... Frank |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: CarolC Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:38 PM One of them was Zehrs. That's the one with the organic section. What kind of music do they play there? They must play it pretty softly, or I've been more oblivious than I thought. This is getting scarey... |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: hesperis Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:34 PM Thanks for the clarification, Jande! LOL! (I know you like my moosic... The joke was just there!) Carol - Hmmmm, could have been Zehrs or A&P Superfresh... Both are pretty hoity-toity. I don't know if Zehrs has an organic section though... Superfresh is the one by Rombos, just so you know. (Of course, there's another A&P on west st, though...) They all have some sort of music, some of it is tolerable, though. What happened to silence? What is wrong with silence? *sigh* |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: CarolC Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:21 PM hesperis, I've been thinking about it a lot today. I couldn't swear there wasn't muzak in the stores I've been in. But if it was there, it must have been pretty inoffensive, because I just can't remember it. I always remember when they play muzak I don't like. I also can't remember the names of the stores. One of them was the hoity-toity store that sells the President's Choice stuff and has an organic section. I don't think either one of them was a superfresh, but considering the CRS I seem to be suffering from today, who can say? Carol |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: kendall Date: 13 Feb 01 - 10:12 PM I consider having all that crappy air head muzak thrown at me to be be akin to rape. And, I would not classify all folk music as diddly o day, or whatever. The problem with folk music, is that it takes more than a spoonful of brains to understand it. Any moron can understand the shit they play in stores.The lyrics make no sense, and it is little more than screeching on key. MUZAK IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Justa Picker Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:35 PM LH....I recommend another screening of Terry Gilliam's Brazil. If you've not seen it for a while, it'll once again make your day. If you've never seen it RENT IT TOMORROW. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: wdyat12 Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:33 PM Little Hawk. We Are in the second decline. Deal with it. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: R! Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:33 PM First the confession: my old china and I have been known to dance in the supermarket when a waltz comes over the PA system. A little dance breaks up the monotony of food shopping. I'm usually not happy with the music choices in shops and public places but I can overlook it if the volume is low. The other day I stopped at a pay phone outside a supermarket to call someone for directions. The music was so loud I could barely hear the other party. Coupled with people sitting in their cars, engines idling and radios blasting, it was pure auditory hell.
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:23 PM I find the constant presence of piped in music exceedingly annoying. It's everywhere. In restaurants, gas stations, malls, stores, on the street outside the f**king stores...everywhere! And you know what? It's the death of the live musician. People quickly become jaded when they can have any kind of music they want (or in my case, don't want) at the push of a button. Who really needs a minstrel any longer in this deluded, rat race society? Who will pay said minstrel a decent living for his talent. Nobody, unless the media have made said minstrel into a huge star through a relentless marketing campaign. The whole thing is sick, and it is very Orwellian. I try to avoid the muzak every way I can, but it's not easy. Has anyone noticed, all around us, the death of subtlety in this society? Everything is loud, blatant, and overdone. It's been Whitney-Houston-ized. AAARGGGH! Read Dylan's liner notes on the album "World Gone Wrong". He alludes to the decay that has occurred in people's musical and cultural sensibilities and to the values that have been lost. "I've seen thousands who could have overcome the darkness. For the love of a lousy buck I watched them die." (quote from "When The Night Comes Falling From The Sky" on Empire Burlesque) I sometimes feel that I am living in the 2nd decline and fall of the Roman Empire...one sickening step at a time. - LH |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Bugsy Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:10 PM The Muzak in supermarkets is "actually designed" to get you to either "dally" or "move along" depending on the tempo of the music. When the shop is almost empty, the muzak is usually soft and slow, when it's busy, the tempo is faster. Check it out, it's amazing how it works. When I was in the record business, one of my pet hates was to walk into a record store that was playing the local top 40 fm radio through the system. My arguement to them was always "You don't have to play that stuff, people will just ask for it anyway. Play something from your stock that has been sitting there for a while." Usually fell on deaf ears. CHeers Bugsy |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Ebbie Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:08 PM I suspect that if those interactive products reach my store my elbows will become unaccountably akimbo. If enough of us have accidents that cause extra work for the establishment they might rethink the novelty. Ebbie |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Jande Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:06 PM Hesp~ You deserve a good *thwap* fer that! You know I loooove your music! Especially that Night Garden one. :`) Yeah, just can't eat when you play. the only thing I can do to good music (and to make this very clear: like *yours*) is dance or paint pictures. ::grin:: ~ Jande |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: rube1 Date: 13 Feb 01 - 09:00 PM yeah, well, what I can't stand are those antiquated folksongs with a fi-do diddle diddle dum de roll a diddle choruses. Somebody please stop doing those songs. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: wdyat12 Date: 13 Feb 01 - 08:32 PM Morticia, I think I'm going to try that. When I go to the fruit display I'll sing "Yes We Have No Bananas," and when I go to the to the cereal section I'll sing "....waving fields of grain," and when I go to the meat counter I'll sing "This Little Piggy Went to Market." This might work. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: hesperis Date: 13 Feb 01 - 08:31 PM Yeah. CarolC - Unfortunately, Superfresh plays background music. But at least it's not country. :shudder: Which store did you go to? Jande - What?! My music makes you cringe? Or did you mean trying to eat at the same time as my music... *g* |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Homeless Date: 13 Feb 01 - 06:51 PM A couple have asked why this seems so prevalent in modern society. My personal theory is that it is because people don't know how to think or are afraid to think. Schools don't teach children how to think, they teach them to follow authority, believe everything they are told, and let the media dictate their opinions. They are raising a generation of sheeple - people who behave like sheep.
At the risk of tainting yet another thread with pop music, I am going to quote a line from an Alanis Morrisette song I think that the first and last lines of this pretty much sum up the situation. When was the last time that you heard a group of mainstream youths discussing some type of intellectual subject - theology, philosophy, even politics? My sister keeps a television set running literally from the time she gets out of bed until she turns in for the night. To keep her company, she says. The corollary to this is the so many 'Catters who find the muzak distasteful. From the threads I've read I would surmise that the average 'Catter, or maybe even Folkie, doesn't fit into the mold of sheeple. We do like to think for ourselves and don't like having unnecessary distractions forced onto us. Personally, I find disturbing that so many people are willing and even eager to give up their brain waves to even subconciously process this noise. I like to keep my full facilities to myself, thank you. My opinion, for what it's worth. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: menzze Date: 13 Feb 01 - 06:48 PM I laid a wooden floor this afternoon and the lady had the TV running and the radio, we were talking and my machines were running too,her two dogs were barking and her two parrots squiecing and hustling and laughing and... She said she needs some life around her, some action all the time. She couldn't stand quietness. Her age: about 60. I nearly couldn't stand this hellish melting pot of noises. And she loved it. People are different(some are too different for me) |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Morticia Date: 13 Feb 01 - 06:33 PM I find that in grocery shops I sing according to what I'm looking at rather than what's playing.....people at the fish counter are "treated" to 'Shoals of Herring', the cheese display often gets a minute or two of "Oh, the Hard Cheese of Old England" etc.Good God.....I'm a walking wallpaper supplier!! |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Jande Date: 13 Feb 01 - 06:29 PM MMario... Yum! Too bad you seem to be speaking in the past tense. ::sigh:: I think I would kill for nice juicy vine-ripened tomato right now --as long as I wasn't forced to listen to somebody else's idea of good music while I was trying to eat it! ;`) ~ Jande, (eyeing the side-yard to measure for a greenhouse) |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Bill D Date: 13 Feb 01 - 06:24 PM about 'that' article kat posted....I can just And ...*grin*...if those batteries really work, maybe that 'implant' for remote controlled "O"s wont be needed...just print a battery and ripple effect right on undies! ZAP!....(who says old curmudgeons have no imagination!?) |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: wdyat12 Date: 13 Feb 01 - 06:20 PM I do my grocery shopping after hours on my way home from work. I put up with isles closed off for floor waxing and pallets of boxed merchandise waiting to be shelved that always seem to be in my way. However, I never hear Muzak when I'm shopping because the shelvers pipe different FM stations through the PA system. The music depends on who's turn it is that night to control the station selection. I have shopped at night in this store for years and I rarely ever hear something really awful. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: sophocleese Date: 13 Feb 01 - 06:06 PM There is a bar near here where my father and I go once a week together to have beer and a chat. It plays background music and on a couple of occasions it has been too loud. However each time before we had a chance to ask the waitress to turn it down somebody else had already done so. My dad and I do keep apologizing though as our eyes flicker to the televisions hanging above the bar. The grocery store that I go to plays music in the background but I only really notice when I have a different tune in my head which the muzak interferes with. I get strange looks from people when I walk along the street or an aisle singing to myself but I figure if they're going to put canned stuff on in the stores I can sing if I feel like it. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: blt Date: 13 Feb 01 - 05:30 PM It's impressive to me how very sensitive folks are to music--I agree that muzak is annoying and really loud muzak really annoying, but in general it doesn't bother me too much. I kind of get an existential kick out of seeing what sort of music is being played at the grocery store--when I go into the up-scale "natural foods" store in my neighborhood, the music playing is apt to be an eclectic but always self-consciously tasteful mix: Enya followed by tejano followed by Dave Brubeck. Starbucks drove me a little nuts this winter when they began playing Christmas music the day after Halloween (I know, that's what I get for going into Starbucks)--it was all 50s and 60s stuff. I have asked to have the music turned down in restaurants when it was so loud it was oppressive, and sometimes it was actually turned down. Recently, I ate at a restaurant where the person waiting on me was deaf and I realized afterward that perhaps she had the music up loud because then she could feel the bass--it was the middle of the afternoon and I was the only person in the place. However, I would like to suggest that as a group, musicians and afficianados are more attuned, as it were, to how music affects them--it's both a blessing and a curse, I think, to be so exquisitely wired that any sound registers as either pleasure or pain. Just realize that not everybody is wired this way--incredible as it may seem, not everybody experiences music as an event or as something existing in space, as significant (hence the blank looks when one requests the sound to be lowered--the blank individual may think such a request is crazy because if the music were turned down no one would "hear" it). Oliver Sachs (of Awakenings fame) describes the sensitivity that music lovers have as being able to perceive musical notes in the same way that others remember faces--the notes have color, shape, personalities. blt |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: GUEST,bflat Date: 13 Feb 01 - 05:24 PM I had been the owner of a small store in a hamlet, which I sold recently. For many years, I tuned the radio into folk music, bluegrass and old country tunes or selected a tape or CD from my collection, when I wasn't playing my guitar in the store. If it were the radio, it never failed but a customer wanted to know the station name and number so that they could tune their car radio to the same. Some folks would begin a discussion about the music and often it was most pleasant and entertaining. People would comment about the unique and "best" music that I would have on and that they looked forward to what was playing when they came to shop. I never once had a request to change the music or to stop playing the guitar. Lucky I guess. bflat |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: wdyat12 Date: 13 Feb 01 - 05:22 PM Hey Folks! Speaking of Muzak, check out the yellow "Handy" thread for a minute. Don't get lost in there though. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: mousethief Date: 13 Feb 01 - 05:21 PM There is a semi-famous story of a client of Carl G. Jung, the famous psychiatrist. He told this man that his "homework" between sessions on the couch was to go home and be alone, by himself, for an hour (each night). The man came back to his next appointment, and Dr. Jung asked him how it went. "Just fine," the man said. "At first I played the piano, then when I got bored of that, I read a book, and then I wrote some in my diary." "No no, you don't understand," said Dr. Jung. "I want you to be alone. Doing nothing. Just being." The man's face became a picture of horror. "I couldn't do that!" he said. "And yet," said Dr. Jung, "this presence which you can't bear for one hour, you inflict on hundreds of people all week long!" Alex |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: katlaughing Date: 13 Feb 01 - 05:21 PM Here's that article: "What if the next time you walked into a music store, a compact disc sang to you? Or you reached for some beauty cream at the department store and the package began to glow, enticing you with a tiny video invitation to rediscover lost youth? Wouldn't you at least stop and think about buying those products? International Paper Co. is betting you would. The Purchase, N.Y.-based company has signed a licensing deal with an Israeli firm, Power Paper Ltd., that soon could bring light, sound and other special effects to the packages of some consumer products. The key is new ultra-thin flexible batteries that can be "printed" on packages like ink. Both companies expect the disposable batteries to help product manufacturers use packaging more effectively to entice consumers. "The No. 1 reason (for using the batteries in packaging) would be the marketing advantage that would allow you to reach consumers one more time with an advertising or marketing or promotional message," said Jenny Boardman, an IP spokeswoman. The batteries might potentially be used in CD packages wired to play song samples when a customer picks them up, or to enliven game cards handed out at fast food restaurants. Packages powered by the new batteries could show up on store shelves by late summer. Boardman says International Paper is running trials, but has not yet signed deals with any customers. Power Paper says it is readying to start Hong Kong-based production later this year. Neither company would comment on the terms of their agreement. While the new battery will be used first in novelty items, the idea is rooted in practicality. It began taking shape seven years ago when Power Paper cofounder Baruch Levanon was hired by a medical supply company to help develop a stick-on device to deliver insulin through the skin of diabetics. The challenge was to find a power source strong enough to push large insulin molecules into the skin, yet small enough to wear comfortably. That half-inch-thick miniature battery will soon be on the market, said Levanon, though he wouldn't provide further details. But Levanon and his partners didn't stop there. They kept working on their own, developing a battery only about half a millimeter thick composed of five layers of zinc and manganese dioxide. The material can be printed on an ordinary press, and is safe for disposal, said Levanon, whose privately held company and is based at Kibbutz Einat in suburban Tel Aviv. International Paper, whose packaging business accounts for 27 percent of industry sales, has tried to add zip to product boxes by adding holograms, embossing or die-cutting packages so that they're not always square. The creation of e-packaging, complete with light and sound, continues that evolution, Boardman said. The newfangled containers are part of a broad trend known as "smart packaging", using technology to allow products to communicate with manufacturers, retailers and consumers, industry consultant Mark Niemiec says. Companies already use packages equipped with small devices to sound an alarm if an item is being stolen. In the future, such devices could be widely used to track movement of products or allow a home refrigerator to detect and respond to items placed inside, he says. While innovations like e-packages will be costly at first, he says the expense will decline over time and could make sense to consumer products companies who spend big on marketing. "We are clearly at the doorstep of this new interactive type of smart packaging, and I think in the next decade we're going to see tremendous developments in this area," said Niemiec of Global Packaging Innovations in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla. The new thin battery also fits into an industry trend, with manufacturers continuously miniaturizing products and looking for ever smaller power sources that fit inside, said Tom Chesworth, president of Seven Mountains Scientific Inc., the Boalsburg, Pa.-based publisher of Advanced Battery Technology magazine. Chesworth says the new battery is the first flexible power source he's seen, but that it's not clear yet how useful it will be: "When I saw it, it was a solution looking for a problem and it may still be." But Levanon said there are myriad uses for his company's batteries. Eventually, he says, it could be used to power smart tags on products, allowing companies to track individual items as they are shipped, and when they reach the store shelf. It might also be used for disposal products for medical diagnosis. "Once you have a power source ... that is thin and flexible, then it opens a whole range of microelectronics uses," Levanon says. Such utility will come at a price. Equipping packaging with a battery and the microelectronics for simple audiovisual effects will add 20 cents to $1 to the cost of each item, Levanon says. That is substantially more than most packaging costs, but perhaps reasonable if seen as part of a company's marketing budget, he suggests. © Copyright 2001 The Associated Press |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Bill D Date: 13 Feb 01 - 05:14 PM many years ago, a Pizza Hut in my home town had a juke box with one blank track..for 5› you could buy 3 minutes of silence...they made a fortune! I carry a tape of bagpipe music in my van...just for those occasions when I am in traffic beside some cretin with bass speakers blaring rock or, worse...RAP!.....a good pipe melody will penetrate..and sort of make a point... |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: katlaughing Date: 13 Feb 01 - 05:09 PM I felt physically ill this past Christmas season when we had to go to Wally World. Normally we avoid it like the plague, but they had moving bins on sale and we were moving, so...anyway, they had on some woman screeching at the top of her lungs and I just looked at Rog, told him I had to get out of there and we did. I really felt it physically! Peter, I forgot to mention an article I read yesterday. Industry is working on packaging which will talk to us, or sing to us when we shop! That's right, that little bottle of whatever, when it senses you are near, might strike up it's well-known jingle or start relating the merits of buying that product! THIS SHOULD BE STOPPED IN ITS TRACKS! Whatever happened to Silence is Golden? |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Bert Date: 13 Feb 01 - 05:05 PM The answer is to sing louder than the music being played. Something like "When you pickle glows at night" By Amos should do it. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: RichM Date: 13 Feb 01 - 04:52 PM Alright, there must be some way to sabotage these annoying public earworms...maybe some kind of glue sprayed in the speakers? Would crazy glue work?
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Jim Krause Date: 13 Feb 01 - 04:26 PM Mind you I am a pretty peaceful sort of guy. But one evening I had had just about all I could take. After the gig, the band and a few of our pals, wives, and husbands went out to our favorite watering hole. We sat, trying to have a conversation, when I turned to one of the guys nearest me, and said "This is the only time I seriously consider changing my position on Conceal Carry law." I said as I pointed to the speaker mounted on a ceiling beam which was blaring out really bad, head-bangin' stuff. BTW for those who don't know, Conceal/Carry is local slang for carrying a concealed sidearm on one's person. Jim |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: CarolC Date: 13 Feb 01 - 04:10 PM I'm sure you're right, Bardford.
However, if my memory is correct and there wasn't any muzak in the grocery stores I've visited here in Orillia, that would make this the first time in my entire life that I've been in grocery stores that didn't have muzak. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Big Mick Date: 13 Feb 01 - 04:06 PM I guess it depends on why I am in the place. If I am in a very nice restaraunt with friends, I don't want a lot of bullshit to contend with what I hope will be enjoyable conversation........engaging banter.......rousing discussion............or just plain communing with a kindred spirit. And I will choose the type of place that allows that. It occurs to me that some folks wouldn't like my musical style........and that means they shouldn't come to the pub where I am playing. All of this is not to say that I don't agree with Peter. It is a sign of our times, and not a very good one, that one cannot escape the feckin' madness. I have to listen to it in cabs, on buses, in every public place. It is so bad that when I am out fishing on the lake I live in which is located in a supposed State Game area, I have to listen to it from the radio's on the boats and snowmobiles. I am sitting on the ice a few weeks ago, it is 12 degrees out, I am on a huge lake in the middle of the woods and I hear the sound of a snowmobile in the distance. And I hear the bass speakers...........sure as hell a kid on a snowmobile, towing a sled with huge bass speakers like they put in the cars these days goes by. Drives me nuts...........The end is near.......repent. All the best, Mick |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Pseudolus Date: 13 Feb 01 - 04:04 PM Kendall, "they play the same shit everywhere"? I've heard several types of music mentioned here as distasteful so I assume to be considered NOT the same shit, it must be something you like. Now it seems like I'm hearing, "If you're gonna play stuff I don't like, play it low or don't play it at all". Do you know for sure no one is enjoying it?
Jimmy C,
Peter T, It has become a class thing?????? Are you now saying that if someone watches TV in an airport they are lower class??? Seems a little harsh to me. I don't mean to push the issue since I'm not exactly fond of everything I hear in stores, malls, and restaurants but I also don't feel like I'm being intruded upon and I certainly don't feel outclassed by the folks who hate it. Truly, I'm trying to understand and I fear I'm now sounding argumentative. I also think we're heading down the old "agree to disagree" highway.... Still trying.... Frank |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: grumpy al Date: 13 Feb 01 - 03:51 PM I agree entirely with Peter T and all the others who hate, loath, and detest musical wallpaper. However I would like to add a question to the rant, why is it that modern society (as a generalism) is so afraid of peace and quiet??? |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: wdyat12 Date: 13 Feb 01 - 03:51 PM Peter, Ever visit a shipyard where every welder, shipfitter, and burner has a differnt radio station on and the sound of welding, gouging, and banging on steel is permeated with everbody's taste in music at maximum volume? I'll take the soft obnoxious elevator music, thank you. Peter |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: kendall Date: 13 Feb 01 - 03:49 PM Spaw, I would be honored to have you as a cretin associate. Major Winchester on M.A.S.H. referred to Hawkeye and B.J. as "Cretinous yahoos" I think I'd like to be one of those. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Jimmy C Date: 13 Feb 01 - 03:49 PM I worked for a while in a hardware store, in Ontario. They had muzak all day long, even in the mornings before the customers would come in we had to listen to the same stuff for a whole week before they changed it. After a while I just tuned out. What bothers me about some people who listen to music is that they don't really know what they are listening to. The following is a true example of what I mean. We were driving into Toronto one day with my son and one of his pals. A certain song came on the radio, his friend exclaimed " Oh I love this one ". I couldn't understand the lyrics so I asked them what the song was about " Oh I don't know" was the answer ?. go figure. |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 13 Feb 01 - 03:41 PM i was wandering though the grocery store on day not too long ago when the urge to sing "Really don'tmind if you sit this one out, Your words but a whisper, my deafness a shout" came over me in front of the meat counter... The wife returned from the veggie section to me singing "And your wise men don't know how it fee-e-e-e-e-els... To be thick as a brick" "What brought that on", she asked... "I donno", I said... and I didn't until I listend and heard on the piped in music, the orcestral version from "A Classic Case"... they played nearly the whole CD and I've never had so much fun shopping fer groceries... I like background music... even if it's not something I'd listen to regularily... Hell, that's how I prefer my Beethoven... WAAAAAAAY in teh background!! ;-) |
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Subject: RE: RANT (Please join in):Musical Wallpaper! From: Peter T. Date: 13 Feb 01 - 03:40 PM Oh, I forgot that problem. That is even worse: whoever thought about having TVs on in airports all the time should be hung. This is to give everyone entertainment, and prevent them thinking about air crashes -- but what if you want to read, or pray, or think about something other than air crashes. I THINK THIS HAS NOW BECOME A CLASS THING. If you go into First Class lounges, you get silence. The plebs are presumed to be restless and in need of doping. Don't even get me started on radio in intercity buses. The one place you used to get quiet, and time to think. yours, Peter T. |
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